Predator Helios 300 PH315-53 (2020 Model) BIOS Backward Compatibility and Overclock Fix.

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  • invador0007
    invador0007 Member Posts: 134 Skilled Fixer WiFi Icon
    iamsrc said:
    I noticed couple of things after the bios update to v1.06:

    1. The bios v1.06 says it provides Intel ME firmware version 14.0.37.1165 for Windows 20H1. But mine is still showing up as 14.0.31.1120.
    I checked it in Device Manager > System Devices > Intel(R) Management Engine Interface.
    My automatic firmware update option in windows update is off.
    My current bios is v1.06 and have recently updated windows to 20H2 through automatic updates.

    2. After the care center update to version 4.00.3014. The battery charge restriction to 80% option is reset to off after every restart along with the cool boost toggle in predator sense.
    Care center takes a long (by long I mean really long, almost a few minutes) to start after booting up and my Predator sense RGB profiles and fan settings only kick in after I log in as compared to when I had bought the laptop (stock firmware and windows) when it kicked in the moment after I posted.

    Note: I can't rollback the acer care center or predator sense update as the acer support page only has the latest version of care center and predator sense.

    Is anyone else facing the same issues?
    Try updating intel drivers using "Intel driver support assistant" and acer care center isn't a worthy app just a bloatware uninstall it may be and for the predator sense app profiles not loading check services and windows startup service tab that predator service is allowed and running after each boot.
    To get back to previous version of apps create a new thread asking for your particular machine, others may help having same machine.
  • BATHALA_
    BATHALA_ Member Posts: 24 Networker
    @invador0007 Hi sir, I would like to ask what driver version should my system firmware be that is the latest and compatible with BIOS v1.06? I would like to know because I want to manually install it through MS Update Catalog since I'm afraid Windows will automatically reinstall BIOS v1.07 if I hit that Update Driver button. My current system firmware is running the "Stock" System Firmware from when I bought it despite having installed BIOS v1.06 already. Thanks.
     
  • Madman1939
    Madman1939 Member Posts: 3 New User
    Hey, I have the same laptop but with i5-10300H instead. PH315-53 | i5-10300H + RTX 2060. Will this file work with that too?
    I personally think that it should considering that the architecture and motherboard are the same. Literally everything else is identical except for the processors, and event they are obviously from the same generation.
  • @BATHALA_ and @Madman1939 You must copy and paste the idhardware on the microsoft website, see:


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  • Madman1939
    Madman1939 Member Posts: 3 New User
    @egydiocoelho I don't fully understand what that would achieve. I will try to reiterate my issue. I have the i5-10300h + RTX 2060 PH315-53-594S. I am currently on BIOS V 1.07 and want to roll back to V 1.06. The given file in this forum is applicable for i7-10750h + RTX 2060 PH315-53-72E9. My question is, whether I can use the same file to roll back to BIOS V 1.06 from BIOS V 1.07 on my laptop. (PH315-53-594S)
  • No, you will not be able to downgrade the bios with the file provided in the microsoft catalog. The only possibility is to change a key in the platform.ini file. But it is not allowed to publish the procedure in the community.
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  • Graveion
    Graveion Member Posts: 1 New User
    Is there any option for the I5 10300H and RTX 2060? 
    i currently have the 1.07 bios version and Undervolting is locked. 
    And moreover there is a new bios update that was released on the 16th of December 2020 (Version 1.08). Any idea on what that update is about ?
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  • bokatniss
    bokatniss Member Posts: 2 New User
    To bypass version popup.
    Just download and execute the "H2OFFT-Wx64.exe" in the zip.
    Google Drive - link
    This zip is strictly for PH315-53(Intel i7 10750H and RTX 2060) model.

    Does it work on the PH315-53 (Intel i7 10750H and RTX 2070) model?
  • invador0007
    invador0007 Member Posts: 134 Skilled Fixer WiFi Icon
    bokatniss said:
    To bypass version popup.
    Just download and execute the "H2OFFT-Wx64.exe" in the zip.
    Google Drive - link
    This zip is strictly for PH315-53(Intel i7 10750H and RTX 2060) model.

    Does it work on the PH315-53 (Intel i7 10750H and RTX 2070) model?
    It's only tested with RTX 2060 model, if the support(driver) page of both the models are same then it could be flashed.
  • Reaperx1
    Reaperx1 Member Posts: 1 New User
    Hello,
    Im new here..I update my BIOS to v1.08 and temperature spikedup..thankgod i found this post and reverted back to 1.06. Thankyou for that..Can I know how to undervolt my laptop.
    Laptop: Helios 300 PH315-53 (i7 10750H with RTX 2060)
  • invador0007
    invador0007 Member Posts: 134 Skilled Fixer WiFi Icon
    Reaperx1 said:
    Hello,
    Im new here..I update my BIOS to v1.08 and temperature spikedup..thankgod i found this post and reverted back to 1.06. Thankyou for that..Can I know how to undervolt my laptop.
    Laptop: Helios 300 PH315-53 (i7 10750H with RTX 2060)
    Search "UNDERVOLT PREDATOR HELIOS 300 USING THROTTLESTOP" on YouTube and you'll be good to go.
  • iyzer
    iyzer Member Posts: 13

    Tinkerer

    There's a way you can now unlock undervolting in BIOS 1.07 and 1.08 which I learnt from a reddit post. Currently I'm on BIOS 1.08 and I've undervolted my CPU using this method. I don't know if it's allowed in here to share but if it is then I can post that reddit post.
  • invador0007
    invador0007 Member Posts: 134 Skilled Fixer WiFi Icon
    iyzer said:
    There's a way you can now unlock undervolting in BIOS 1.07 and 1.08 which I learnt from a reddit post. Currently I'm on BIOS 1.08 and I've undervolted my CPU using this method. I don't know if it's allowed in here to share but if it is then I can post that reddit post.
    Even I don't know about posting guidelines here but I shared few external links before, so may be they are allowed.
  • RaflyRamandani
    RaflyRamandani Member Posts: 4 New User
    hello I am new here, I have an acer predator helios 300 2020 model, my bios is still version 1.01, does it need to be updated? and what are the benefits of updating bios? if necessary, should it be gradual or go straight to the newest? thank you
  • @RaflyRamandaniIs your model the ph315-53? Regarding your question, if the computer is working correctly, there is no need to update the bios. The latest version will always contain corrections from previous versions.
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  • RaflyRamandani
    RaflyRamandani Member Posts: 4 New User
    @RaflyRamandaniIs your model the ph315-53? Regarding your question, if the computer is working correctly, there is no need to update the bios. The latest version will always contain corrections from previous versions.
    Yes my laptop is ph315-53, my computer is working correctly, but if I play games the CPU temperature can reach 90 degrees more and I try the benchmark on Cinebench R15, the score is only up to 1100s, different from the reviews on YouTube which reached 1300s, is this normal?
  • iamsrc
    iamsrc Member Posts: 17 Troubleshooter
    iyzer said:
    There's a way you can now unlock undervolting in BIOS 1.07 and 1.08 which I learnt from a reddit post. Currently I'm on BIOS 1.08 and I've undervolted my CPU using this method. I don't know if it's allowed in here to share but if it is then I can post that reddit post.
    Hey! can you post the link to that reddit thread?
  • iamsrc
    iamsrc Member Posts: 17 Troubleshooter
    iamsrc said:
    I noticed couple of things after the bios update to v1.06:

    1. The bios v1.06 says it provides Intel ME firmware version 14.0.37.1165 for Windows 20H1. But mine is still showing up as 14.0.31.1120.
    I checked it in Device Manager > System Devices > Intel(R) Management Engine Interface.
    My automatic firmware update option in windows update is off.
    My current bios is v1.06 and have recently updated windows to 20H2 through automatic updates.

    2. After the care center update to version 4.00.3014. The battery charge restriction to 80% option is reset to off after every restart along with the cool boost toggle in predator sense.
    Care center takes a long (by long I mean really long, almost a few minutes) to start after booting up and my Predator sense RGB profiles and fan settings only kick in after I log in as compared to when I had bought the laptop (stock firmware and windows) when it kicked in the moment after I posted.

    Note: I can't rollback the acer care center or predator sense update as the acer support page only has the latest version of care center and predator sense.

    Is anyone else facing the same issues?
    Try updating intel drivers using "Intel driver support assistant" and acer care center isn't a worthy app just a bloatware uninstall it may be and for the predator sense app profiles not loading check services and windows startup service tab that predator service is allowed and running after each boot.
    To get back to previous version of apps create a new thread asking for your particular machine, others may help having same machine.
    I did some research and found that intel ME firmware drivers are included with the BIOS and can only be updated by the BIOS flash tool. So I opened up the .ini file for v1.06 and found that ME flash flag is set to 0 (i.e.: It won't update with the BIOS. Turning it on also won't help as the firmware file is missing from the BIOS package) This is a serious lapse from Acer's side as it doesn't perform the update that it has mentioned in the changelog. Out of curiosity, I even checked the newer BIOS files and ME firmware was also missing from them.

    Intel ME updates are mostly provided when there is a known security or performance issue with the current version and this will unknowingly keep users who have updated to v1.06 BIOS vulnerable.
  • @iamsrc Have you checked the intel ME firmware version with this program? https://downloadcenter.intel.com/en-us/download/28632?v=t

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