Undervolt GPU and CPU(predator helios 300 G3-571

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CaptainTwinkie
CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
edited November 2023 in 2019 Archives
Iv watched the first video on hotel heros youtube channel of how to undervolt the cpu i followed all the steps and my temp went down from 93c when playing gta to 70-83C and it worked like i charm but they say the GPU undervolting has more risks and i dont know how to go about it i have a acer predator helios 300 G3-571 anybody know how to undervolt the gpu at a safe rate?
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  • sri369
    sri369 ACE Posts: 2,623 Pathfinder
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    Follow the link in my signature for undervolting GPU. Mine is a G3-572 with 1060 GPU.
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  • CaptainTwinkie
    CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
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    sri369 said:
    Follow the link in my signature for undervolting GPU. Mine is a G3-572 with 1060 GPU.
    I undervolted my gpu but now when ever i go to open it games it freezes for about 20 seconds and then starts working again but now my graphics card wont be recognized by msi ab it just says connection to gpu1 lost and even my predator sense says the gpu is discrete idle with no temperatures or anything Please Help!!!!
  • sri369
    sri369 ACE Posts: 2,623 Pathfinder
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    sri369 said:
    Follow the link in my signature for undervolting GPU. Mine is a G3-572 with 1060 GPU.
    I undervolted my gpu but now when ever i go to open it games it freezes for about 20 seconds and then starts working again but now my graphics card wont be recognized by msi ab it just says connection to gpu1 lost and even my predator sense says the gpu is discrete idle with no temperatures or anything Please Help!!!!
    1. Uninstall Predator Sense - use only one device controlling software at any time.
    2. Use Device Driver Uninstaller (DDU) and remove the 1060 drivers completely. Restart. Install 1060 drivers from Acer site.

    Let us know how it goes.

    Most importantly... when you post certain things like "i undervolted my GPU", be specific, like mentioning the values and posting corresponding screenshots. For example, for MSI you can post the graph screenshot as below:

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  • CaptainTwinkie
    CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
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    I have uninstall predator sense msi afterburner and used ddu to fully uninstall the graphics and then reinstall the graphics reboot and then install predator and msi afterburner but still no luck im currently trying to undervolt my cpu to reduce temps im at -110v as for right now and -40 for the intel gpu my model is g3-571 and the temps reach to about 92 degrees while playing overwatch which burns my fingers and is just terrible and i have just reinstalled msi afterburner hoping that it fixed itself to come to this https://gyazo.com/97ce8e746837c414cd6aa6321722a0f4 i dont know what to do anymore im just going to try to undervolt the cpu and try to fix the gpu
  • sri369
    sri369 ACE Posts: 2,623 Pathfinder
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    I have uninstall predator sense msi afterburner and used ddu to fully uninstall the graphics and then reinstall the graphics reboot and then install predator and msi afterburner but still no luck im currently trying to undervolt my cpu to reduce temps im at -110v as for right now and -40 for the intel gpu my model is g3-571 and the temps reach to about 92 degrees while playing overwatch which burns my fingers and is just terrible and i have just reinstalled msi afterburner hoping that it fixed itself to come to this https://gyazo.com/97ce8e746837c414cd6aa6321722a0f4 i dont know what to do anymore im just going to try to undervolt the cpu and try to fix the gpu
    Your GPU undervolting graph? Please try to attach the picture here, instead of some 3rd party site. Anyways, I am not looking for MSI screenshot, but the graph screenshot (use Ctrl + F when on MSI window). This would be something on lines of what I posted above.
    Karma...
    LIKE - if helpful
    ACCEPT - if helped resolve
    ---------
    Nitro 7 - AN715-51 - user benchmark: https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/37631045
  • CaptainTwinkie
    CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
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    im also using cinebench to stress test my cpu undervolts which i have a .bat set to run it 10 times in a loop so i set that and go do something and i come back and nothing has crashed or has caused the BSOD which i think is doing pretty good im going to start stress the cpu at -0.120.1v and -80.5v intel gpu i will leave that running and hopefully somebody will have an idea to fix my gpu problem
  • CaptainTwinkie
    CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
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    these are the settings the graph and everything i use to undervolt my cpu do you think i have the right settings? the model for my laptop is g3-57 i want the lowest temps with the max performance and i have been trying for a day or two now to try to get this working so my temps wont go up above 75-85 degrees when playing games like overwatch-gta 5 and fortnite
  • CaptainTwinkie
    CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
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    sri369 said:
    I have uninstall predator sense msi afterburner and used ddu to fully uninstall the graphics and then reinstall the graphics reboot and then install predator and msi afterburner but still no luck im currently trying to undervolt my cpu to reduce temps im at -110v as for right now and -40 for the intel gpu my model is g3-571 and the temps reach to about 92 degrees while playing overwatch which burns my fingers and is just terrible and i have just reinstalled msi afterburner hoping that it fixed itself to come to this https://gyazo.com/97ce8e746837c414cd6aa6321722a0f4 i dont know what to do anymore im just going to try to undervolt the cpu and try to fix the gpu
    Your GPU undervolting graph? Please try to attach the picture here, instead of some 3rd party site. Anyways, I am not looking for MSI screenshot, but the graph screenshot (use Ctrl + F when on MSI window). This would be something on lines of what I posted above.
    also for the gpu undervolting graph it wont let me apply changes i dont think because of the problem
  • CaptainTwinkie
    CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
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    this is what overwatch gets to after 15 min of playing. 92 degrees Celsius i dont know how to make it go any lower
  • CaptainTwinkie
    CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
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    sri369 said:
    I have uninstall predator sense msi afterburner and used ddu to fully uninstall the graphics and then reinstall the graphics reboot and then install predator and msi afterburner but still no luck im currently trying to undervolt my cpu to reduce temps im at -110v as for right now and -40 for the intel gpu my model is g3-571 and the temps reach to about 92 degrees while playing overwatch which burns my fingers and is just terrible and i have just reinstalled msi afterburner hoping that it fixed itself to come to this https://gyazo.com/97ce8e746837c414cd6aa6321722a0f4 i dont know what to do anymore im just going to try to undervolt the cpu and try to fix the gpu
    Your GPU undervolting graph? Please try to attach the picture here, instead of some 3rd party site. Anyways, I am not looking for MSI screenshot, but the graph screenshot (use Ctrl + F when on MSI window). This would be something on lines of what I posted above.
    also i see that you use park control can i use this to reduce temps? i only play games such as overwatch gta black ops league of legends and dragon ball z figherz
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,257 Pathfinder
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    This is my curve :)

    https://snag.gy/2TIHYS.jpg


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • CaptainTwinkie
    CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
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    xapim said:
    for msi afterburner it wont let me do anything it says connection to gpu1 lost and only shows up when im running a gpu intensive or just a program that uses the gpu
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,257 Pathfinder
    edited July 2019
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    CaptainTwinkie that shouldnt happen probably you have some driver issue try to remove the drivers completely and reinstall them as far as i know the only way to undervolt your gtx its with msi AB theres no other way also on your nvcp setup the gtx to use the physix and manually setup the msy AB to use the gtx only see if it fixes it 

    also check this thread you might have issues with the visual c redist

    https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1063784-msi-afterburner-lost-connection-to-gpu-1/


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • CaptainTwinkie
    CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
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    xapim said:
    CaptainTwinkie that shouldnt happen probably you have some driver issue try to remove the drivers completely and reinstall them as far as i know the only way to undervolt your gtx its with msi AB theres no other way also on your nvcp setup the gtx to use the physix and manually setup the msy AB to use the gtx only see if it fixes it 

    also check this thread you might have issues with the visual c redist

    https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1063784-msi-afterburner-lost-connection-to-gpu-1/
     i tried everything iv been trying to get better temps i have cpu -0.125v for core and cache and then for intel gpu its set to -0.80v i tried using ddu and fully uninstalling nvidia graphics with msi uninstalled and everything i reinstalled using different graphics and msi versions but no luck on gta 5 downvolted by -0.125v still hitting 92 degrees Celsius i dont know what to do anymore
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,257 Pathfinder
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    xapim said:
    CaptainTwinkie that shouldnt happen probably you have some driver issue try to remove the drivers completely and reinstall them as far as i know the only way to undervolt your gtx its with msi AB theres no other way also on your nvcp setup the gtx to use the physix and manually setup the msy AB to use the gtx only see if it fixes it 

    also check this thread you might have issues with the visual c redist

    https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1063784-msi-afterburner-lost-connection-to-gpu-1/
     i tried everything iv been trying to get better temps i have cpu -0.125v for core and cache and then for intel gpu its set to -0.80v i tried using ddu and fully uninstalling nvidia graphics with msi uninstalled and everything i reinstalled using different graphics and msi versions but no luck on gta 5 downvolted by -0.125v still hitting 92 degrees Celsius i dont know what to do anymore
    CaptainTwinkie your only viable solution here its probably repaste it (with kryonaut or similar) if undervolting isnt working means you won the silicone lottery :p 


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • CaptainTwinkie
    CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
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    xapim said:
    xapim said:
    CaptainTwinkie that shouldnt happen probably you have some driver issue try to remove the drivers completely and reinstall them as far as i know the only way to undervolt your gtx its with msi AB theres no other way also on your nvcp setup the gtx to use the physix and manually setup the msy AB to use the gtx only see if it fixes it 

    also check this thread you might have issues with the visual c redist

    https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1063784-msi-afterburner-lost-connection-to-gpu-1/
     i tried everything iv been trying to get better temps i have cpu -0.125v for core and cache and then for intel gpu its set to -0.80v i tried using ddu and fully uninstalling nvidia graphics with msi uninstalled and everything i reinstalled using different graphics and msi versions but no luck on gta 5 downvolted by -0.125v still hitting 92 degrees Celsius i dont know what to do anymore
    CaptainTwinkie your only viable solution here its probably repaste it (with kryonaut or similar) if undervolting isnt working means you won the silicone lottery :p 
    i used throttlestop first and then intel xtu then fully uninstalled intel xtu and reinstalled throttlestop when the msi afterburner was working i had beow 80 degree temps with cpu and gpu undervolted now i dont know what went wrong i guess i just deal with the temps i have tried everything but the gpu only shows usage when running an app thats set to use the nvidia gtx does that spring any ideas?
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,257 Pathfinder
    edited July 2019
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    xapim said:
    xapim said:
    CaptainTwinkie that shouldnt happen probably you have some driver issue try to remove the drivers completely and reinstall them as far as i know the only way to undervolt your gtx its with msi AB theres no other way also on your nvcp setup the gtx to use the physix and manually setup the msy AB to use the gtx only see if it fixes it 

    also check this thread you might have issues with the visual c redist

    https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1063784-msi-afterburner-lost-connection-to-gpu-1/
     i tried everything iv been trying to get better temps i have cpu -0.125v for core and cache and then for intel gpu its set to -0.80v i tried using ddu and fully uninstalling nvidia graphics with msi uninstalled and everything i reinstalled using different graphics and msi versions but no luck on gta 5 downvolted by -0.125v still hitting 92 degrees Celsius i dont know what to do anymore
    CaptainTwinkie your only viable solution here its probably repaste it (with kryonaut or similar) if undervolting isnt working means you won the silicone lottery :p 
    i used throttlestop first and then intel xtu then fully uninstalled intel xtu and reinstalled throttlestop when the msi afterburner was working i had beow 80 degree temps with cpu and gpu undervolted now i dont know what went wrong i guess i just deal with the temps i have tried everything but the gpu only shows usage when running an app thats set to use the nvidia gtx does that spring any ideas?
    CaptainTwinkie try what was suggested on that thread i posted above to try to fix the msi ab issues and its normal for the gtx to be only in use when using an app/game that was setup to use it windows and everything else will work on the intel gpu only unless you set it otherwise have u setup on nvcp to use the gtx only instead of the intel ? some games require to be setup manually to use it it will not run automatically on it


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • CaptainTwinkie
    CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
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    xapim said:
    xapim said:
    xapim said:
    CaptainTwinkie that shouldnt happen probably you have some driver issue try to remove the drivers completely and reinstall them as far as i know the only way to undervolt your gtx its with msi AB theres no other way also on your nvcp setup the gtx to use the physix and manually setup the msy AB to use the gtx only see if it fixes it 

    also check this thread you might have issues with the visual c redist

    https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1063784-msi-afterburner-lost-connection-to-gpu-1/
     i tried everything iv been trying to get better temps i have cpu -0.125v for core and cache and then for intel gpu its set to -0.80v i tried using ddu and fully uninstalling nvidia graphics with msi uninstalled and everything i reinstalled using different graphics and msi versions but no luck on gta 5 downvolted by -0.125v still hitting 92 degrees Celsius i dont know what to do anymore
    CaptainTwinkie your only viable solution here its probably repaste it (with kryonaut or similar) if undervolting isnt working means you won the silicone lottery :p 
    i used throttlestop first and then intel xtu then fully uninstalled intel xtu and reinstalled throttlestop when the msi afterburner was working i had beow 80 degree temps with cpu and gpu undervolted now i dont know what went wrong i guess i just deal with the temps i have tried everything but the gpu only shows usage when running an app thats set to use the nvidia gtx does that spring any ideas?
    CaptainTwinkie try what was suggested on that thread i posted above to try to fix the msi ab issues and its normal for the gtx to be only in use when using an app/game that was setup to use it windows and everything else will work on the intel gpu only unless you set it otherwise have u setup on nvcp to use the gtx only instead of the intel ? some games require to be setup manually to use it it will not run automatically on it
    I have the physx on Nvidia Gtx and the global processor on gtx i also uninstalled the 2010 and 2008 Visual drivers and reinstalled but no luck it feels like a problem with my graphics card version or with windows also do you know if there are any better settings for throttlestop? u can see my setup if u scroll up
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,257 Pathfinder
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    xapim said:
    xapim said:
    xapim said:
    CaptainTwinkie that shouldnt happen probably you have some driver issue try to remove the drivers completely and reinstall them as far as i know the only way to undervolt your gtx its with msi AB theres no other way also on your nvcp setup the gtx to use the physix and manually setup the msy AB to use the gtx only see if it fixes it 

    also check this thread you might have issues with the visual c redist

    https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1063784-msi-afterburner-lost-connection-to-gpu-1/
     i tried everything iv been trying to get better temps i have cpu -0.125v for core and cache and then for intel gpu its set to -0.80v i tried using ddu and fully uninstalling nvidia graphics with msi uninstalled and everything i reinstalled using different graphics and msi versions but no luck on gta 5 downvolted by -0.125v still hitting 92 degrees Celsius i dont know what to do anymore
    CaptainTwinkie your only viable solution here its probably repaste it (with kryonaut or similar) if undervolting isnt working means you won the silicone lottery :p 
    i used throttlestop first and then intel xtu then fully uninstalled intel xtu and reinstalled throttlestop when the msi afterburner was working i had beow 80 degree temps with cpu and gpu undervolted now i dont know what went wrong i guess i just deal with the temps i have tried everything but the gpu only shows usage when running an app thats set to use the nvidia gtx does that spring any ideas?
    CaptainTwinkie try what was suggested on that thread i posted above to try to fix the msi ab issues and its normal for the gtx to be only in use when using an app/game that was setup to use it windows and everything else will work on the intel gpu only unless you set it otherwise have u setup on nvcp to use the gtx only instead of the intel ? some games require to be setup manually to use it it will not run automatically on it
    I have the physx on Nvidia Gtx and the global processor on gtx i also uninstalled the 2010 and 2008 Visual drivers and reinstalled but no luck it feels like a problem with my graphics card version or with windows also do you know if there are any better settings for throttlestop? u can see my setup if u scroll up
    If you followed @Red-Sand videos/confs theres no better confs its a trial and error to tweak it yourself after but as i suggested undervolting doesnt always work if you hit the silicone lottery or a bad factory thermal paste application best to do its always repaste it if you can yourself without voiding the warranty if not contact acer support 



    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • CaptainTwinkie
    CaptainTwinkie Member Posts: 48 Troubleshooter
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    @xapim the undervolting for my cpu AND gpu used to work before my windows updated and nvidia updated which caused all this i tried to roleback windows update in the boot up settings when holding one of the function keys but it said error and rebooted me back into the pc do you think intel xtu could have caused it to stop working?