what are the best undervolt settings for i5 9300h ? nitro 5 AN515-54,

ayushn212
ayushn212 Member Posts: 44 Devotee WiFi Icon
edited December 2020 in Nitro Gaming
i have nitro 5 AN515-54, i5 9300h with gtx 1050
can someone tell me the best possible undervolt setting in intel XTU  

also another question , so i only have to reduce the voltage or do i also have to reduce the processor core IccMax or some other settings

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  • andylb
    andylb ACE Posts: 3,827 Pathfinder
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    ayushn212 said:
    in the above link the settings for i5 9300h is not there, it showing coming soon

    Many have had success by using the closest one to it, the variations are very minor and if the settings don't work no harm can be done, so give that a try and please report back

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  • andylb
    andylb ACE Posts: 3,827 Pathfinder
    One of our long time gaming members has made custom Throttlestop Undervolt packages for each processor. They are well tested and very easy to use. If you have Intel xtu installed then delete it and click the link below for the custom packages
    https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/577183/throttlestop-undervolt-profiles-pre-made/p1?new=1

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  • ayushn212
    ayushn212 Member Posts: 44 Devotee WiFi Icon
    in the above link the settings for i5 9300h is not there, it showing coming soon
  • andylb
    andylb ACE Posts: 3,827 Pathfinder
    Answer ✓
    ayushn212 said:
    in the above link the settings for i5 9300h is not there, it showing coming soon

    Many have had success by using the closest one to it, the variations are very minor and if the settings don't work no harm can be done, so give that a try and please report back

    Please click YES if I answered your question

    I am not an ACER employee
    Thank you and have a blessed day  B)

    ★★ ACE Pathfinder 2019★★

  • ayushn212
    ayushn212 Member Posts: 44 Devotee WiFi Icon
    i want to just know about the setting of someone who has same cpu in acer laptop

    i tried -0.165 to -0.170v and it is very unstable as soon as i save the voltage offset the system shut down

    so i am currently using -0.150v and it seems pretty stable to me but after a minute in stress test it is power limit throttling 
  • andylb
    andylb ACE Posts: 3,827 Pathfinder
    Try -0.124v and see how that works

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    Thank you and have a blessed day  B)

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  • ayushn212
    ayushn212 Member Posts: 44 Devotee WiFi Icon
    the reason i started undervolting is because
    without undervolt my cpu speed was 3.4ghz all core during stress test and temp r at around 90c
    with -0.135v it is around 3.8 to 3.9ghz
    with -0.150v it above 3.9ghz and temp is at 85 to 87c

    so no considerable reduction in temp but it increased the cpu speed to nearly the rated one 
  • WexDavao
    WexDavao Member Posts: 5

    Tinkerer

    I have a helios 300 i5-9300H gtx 1660 ti and since it is not available and still coming soon,  i had used the TS setup for i5-8300H and it worked like magic. My max temps are now 74 on cpu and 68 on gpu compared to 90 and 86 respectively before using TS
  • WexDavao
    WexDavao Member Posts: 5

    Tinkerer

    ayushn212 said:
    in the above link the settings for i5 9300h is not there, it showing coming soon



    I have a helios 300 i5-9300H gtx 1660 ti and since it is not available and still coming soon,  i had used the TS setup for i5-8300H and it worked like magic. My max temps are now 74 on cpu and 68 on gpu compared to 90 and 86 respectively before using TS
  • gadgetwhisperer
    gadgetwhisperer Member Posts: 1 New User
    am on Triton 300 with i5-9300H, it run stable on -149,6 

    it might be able to go higher. But i havent tried it, since am quite satisfied it can run stable 4.0Ghz
  • ChazBrookings12
    ChazBrookings12 Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer

    red sands post worked a treat for me. i have i5 8300h and now i get in the 70s while gaming.
  • PtDraco
    PtDraco Member Posts: 1 New User
    I have the same processor but with a 1650 and I’m able to go all the way down to -.160V with a stable 4.0 ghz, no thermal throttling or power limit throttling.Still using stock thermal paste as well.
  • Sumanth
    Sumanth Member Posts: 103 Skilled Fixer WiFi Icon
    Hello, the pre configured profile for i5 9300H is not listed on the site yet, i tried using the 8300H profile, but the results were off...
    My Laptop : Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-5520 Gaming Laptop
    CPU : i5 9300H
    GPU : GTX 1660Ti GDDR6 6GB Overclockable
    RAM : 1 X 16GB DDR4 2666 MHz (Single Channel)
    I openly say that i'm not a specialist of any sort, but these were the problems i was facing with the i5 8300H profile.
    The power limit was raised to 50 from 45 (thermal throttling > 5% aida64 extreme)
    The core frequencies were around 35,34,34,35, (from 41,41,40,40)
    Speed Shift EPP was not set to 0 either
    My laptop did run cooler although with lower performance as the CPU now ran at 3.4GHz on avg
    The undervolt was set to around 0.134.

    And here's what seemed to work ok to me:
    Speed Shift EPP : 0
    Undervolt : -140.6 on both CPU cache and core
    This gave me better temperatures, better performance.
    To be specific, almost 7 degrees or more difference (decrease) and around 10 FPS increase (from 64 to 74) in FarCry 5 Ultra Settings 1080p.
    Hope this helps, if anyone has any other better settings please do let me know
  • Sumanth
    Sumanth Member Posts: 103 Skilled Fixer WiFi Icon
    edited June 2020
    Sumanth said:
    Hello, the pre configured profile for i5 9300H is not listed on the site yet, i tried using the 8300H profile, but the results were off...
    My Laptop : Acer Predator Helios 300 PH315-52-5520 Gaming Laptop
    CPU : i5 9300H
    GPU : GTX 1660Ti GDDR6 6GB Overclockable
    RAM : 1 X 16GB DDR4 2666 MHz (Single Channel)
    I openly say that i'm not a specialist of any sort, but these were the problems i was facing with the i5 8300H profile.
    The power limit was raised to 50 from 45 (thermal throttling > 5% aida64 extreme)
    The core frequencies were around 35,34,34,35, (from 41,41,40,40)
    Speed Shift EPP was not set to 0 either
    My laptop did run cooler although with lower performance as the CPU now ran at 3.4GHz on avg
    The undervolt was set to around 0.134.

    And here's what seemed to work ok to me:
    Speed Shift EPP : 0
    Undervolt : -140.6 on both CPU cache and core
    This gave me better temperatures, better performance.
    To be specific, almost 7 degrees or more difference (decrease) and around 10 FPS increase (from 64 to 74) in FarCry 5 Ultra Settings 1080p.
    Hope this helps, if anyone has any other better settings please do let me know
    Update : I just want to say this out loud, I'm no specialist, but i can guarantee you, that not all the benchmark systems out there are running the CPU to the same extremities, and in real life most of us wont even be getting any close to that sort of usage unless the app itself is not optimized properly, or maybe it does happen some time later in the future where this hardware is rendered too old for the advancement in the benchmarks themselves by then.

    Also a reminder, you can Undervolt your laptop with XTU but, as soon as you toggle the Turbo button (TOGGLE not necessarily ON or OFF, sometimes its buggy and can delay the process of changing the undervolt) or any other type of high performance mode, these settings that you made will be over written. Use ThrottleStop, which can not only monitor in real time, but can also make sure everything is the same irrespective of which performance mode you are using. You can set it to start up and apply the settings just when the windows starts up. You can find videos on youtube about the same.

    And coming to the undervolt of - 140.6mV on both core and cache, is it stable you ask?
    Like i said, it depends on the type of benchmark you are using, XTU's benchmark was actually so lite on the CPU that i could go upto -160mV before crashing (reboot) at -165mV. So i went ahead tested - 160mV again, in some games, fine, but during the launch and closing of these applications, blue screen, same with everything between -140mV to -160mV. At -140mV all of the games i play, which do put quite some load on the CPU, example : Farcry 5, New Dawn, ROTTR, SOTTR, NFS Payback, GTA 5, Forza Horizon 4, and some video editing in Hitfilm Express. Everything worked just fine. 
    But as soon as i try to multi task, example, having 2 tabs open in chrome, a PDF file open in adobe reader, spotify or something even very lite like Snipping tool cause crashes in any of the above apps, mostly adobe reader, spotify and chrome.
    Similar thing happens while browsing at random. So although this undervolt is good for gaming, not great for multi tasking, no blue screen till now though.
    But then again, yes, it will still thermal throttle in very intense CPU Benchmarks, even Throttlestop's in built one gives atleast 20 - 40 errors, but also eep in mind it gives errors at even - 125mV. And I met a guy who said his CPU temps never crossed 75 degrees, and still hit good framerate, but turns out its in an old game which doesn't require high CPU power anyways. If he were to do that in modern titles, he'd surely see that those core clocks were pinned to 3GHz (as he claimed) he would surely see really bad results. 
    So all im saying is.. everyone's CPU is different, they can take it to different extremities (although within a range), and still be fine because different people exert their system to different types and levels of workloads. Maybe you don't care about multitasking, you just want to play games, maybe all you do is multi tasking and work rather than gaming, maybe all you do is CPU stress tests and benchmarks.
    Depending on all that, different people can say different undervolts to be stable, just try it out yourself, if for your work usage, you never face a problem, i think you are good to go with that undervolt. 

    And i think, people who are claiming that i5 8300H's settings are great in thermal performance for them, should need to check their clock speeds and performance numbers, cause for me although the temps are ice cold, the performance drop is immense, but hey then again.. maybe it truely works for you.
    Please do share you thoughts, opinions and results!
  • N0fear92
    N0fear92 Member Posts: 2 New User
    PtDraco said:
    I have the same processor but with a 1650 and I’m able to go all the way down to -.160V with a stable 4.0 ghz, no thermal throttling or power limit throttling.Still using stock thermal paste as well.

    I have same specification laptop but for me it's power limit throttling and thermal throttling at -0.160V
  • MUZESOLAR
    MUZESOLAR Member Posts: 1 New User
    I HAVE HELIOS 300 i5-9300h and rtx 2060.. what is the best throttling for the laptop??

  • Hooligan798
    Hooligan798 Member Posts: 2 New User
    ayushn212 said:
    i have nitro 5 AN515-54, i5 9300h with gtx 1050
    can someone tell me the best possible undervolt setting in intel XTU  

    also another question , so i only have to reduce the voltage or do i also have to reduce the processor core IccMax or some other settings
    Mine's on -140.6 on cpu and cache. It's stable.
    Nitro 7 with 9300h and 1660ti
  • Shocking21
    Shocking21 Member Posts: 2 New User
    Hi! So, I have an Acer Nitro 5 and I used the i5-8300H preset (on a i5-9300H) and my clocks were at 3.4Ghz on all cores and I thought it was fine until the following day. Today (the following day), my laptop stuttered several times when I had Apple Music playing the background, Chrome open (4 tabs), and an equalizer open. Before apply the undervolting, I've had several applications open and this hasn't happened before. (To be transparent, I had the computer officially serviced at Acer and they said they updated my BIOS. Because the BIOS was updated, I still don't know if it's the BIOS that slowed my computer down or the undervolting.) As a result, I uninstalled the i5-8300H throttlestop preset and installed the i7-9750H preset (and the others). The results were more than I desired... (4.0GHz on all cores) however, my temps went to around 177°F now. Now, the reason behind me undervolting was because GTA5 was sending my temps all the way to 204°F (not undervolted) even though the computer was raised and had good access to fresh air (I still don't know if this was because of the BIOS update because I used to peak at around 180-190°F before it went to be repaired). So, I'm wondering whether this is bad for my computer and if I should go down to i7-8750H's preset or even all the way back to i5-8300H? I desire to have lower temperatures because I plan to have this computer last for at least 4 more years but, I also don't want to have a compromised (slower) computer. Would appreciate any help, thanks!!!

    I also would like to add that the item that was repaired was the bottom case of my laptop and not any parts, the only issue I can think of is that the bottom case is affecting cooling... somehow?

    (Copied from the thread with the presets)
  • Sumanth
    Sumanth Member Posts: 103 Skilled Fixer WiFi Icon
    Hi! So, I have an Acer Nitro 5 and I used the i5-8300H preset (on a i5-9300H) and my clocks were at 3.4Ghz on all cores and I thought it was fine until the following day. Today (the following day), my laptop stuttered several times when I had Apple Music playing the background, Chrome open (4 tabs), and an equalizer open. Before apply the undervolting, I've had several applications open and this hasn't happened before. (To be transparent, I had the computer officially serviced at Acer and they said they updated my BIOS. Because the BIOS was updated, I still don't know if it's the BIOS that slowed my computer down or the undervolting.) As a result, I uninstalled the i5-8300H throttlestop preset and installed the i7-9750H preset (and the others). The results were more than I desired... (4.0GHz on all cores) however, my temps went to around 177°F now. Now, the reason behind me undervolting was because GTA5 was sending my temps all the way to 204°F (not undervolted) even though the computer was raised and had good access to fresh air (I still don't know if this was because of the BIOS update because I used to peak at around 180-190°F before it went to be repaired). So, I'm wondering whether this is bad for my computer and if I should go down to i7-8750H's preset or even all the way back to i5-8300H? I desire to have lower temperatures because I plan to have this computer last for at least 4 more years but, I also don't want to have a compromised (slower) computer. Would appreciate any help, thanks!!!

    I also would like to add that the item that was repaired was the bottom case of my laptop and not any parts, the only issue I can think of is that the bottom case is affecting cooling... somehow?

    (Copied from the thread with the presets)
    Maybe it was clogged with dust? or maybe re-pasting the thermal compound, or maybe it was in fact just the BIOS. I think you'll be fine with your final results, as long as your performance is good without always thermal throttling, you say that it's repaired by professionals, so any fault, you'll have someone to blame, it looks fine to me tbh. 

    And coming to the bottom case, I've noticed that the bottom ventilation slits (intake) were getting clogged quite often. Maybe they just cleaned it up. And did you upgrade your ram or something at the same time?
  • ayushn212
    ayushn212 Member Posts: 44 Devotee WiFi Icon
    edited October 2020
    DiSneY4lk said:
    Hello guys, such is the problem, I bought a laptop two months ago ...
    Intel core i5, rtx 2060 .. Immediately there were problems with the temperature, namely in games the temperature reached 94-95 degrees Celsius .. Then I wrote in support, they asked to send them a laptop, I sent them, then they told me that the problem was in thermal paste and everything will be fine now ...
    I thought, okay, I got a laptop, paid for the "cleaning" services .. Well, in short, I started playing and I see that the effect is zero, the temperature jumps to 94 degrees in any games, even not demanding ones, be it CS: GO or Dota or AC Oddysey, the temperature jumps to the limit ...
    I lowered the processor voltage to -0.145, dropped a little, works in the maximum fan operation mode through Nitro Sence .. In short, I don't know what to do, I downloaded the trottle stop program from the link indicated by the guy, with the settings on Intel i5 8300 ... What do you recommend? Can someone give some advice? Will the settings help or write in support? It's just a shame .. I bought a laptop for a large sum and so many problems with it
    i dont know what model u have but during summer its normal for the temps to reach 90c for less demanding games(its winter time now so temps should be lower) also maybe ur cooling system is not enough to cool down ur rtx 2060 

    otherwise it could be that there is something wrong with ur heatpipe and there were instances when company replaces the whole cooling system, the best thing u can do is call customer care request a tech visit to ur home and explain the problem to him and most of the time they r friendly enough to agree whatever u say and probably agree to replace ur cooling system if u show them the temps in less demanding games and convince him enough