IS THIS NORMAL? - Acer Helios Predator 2019.

Stuont you arent the only one to complain about the fan curves but in fact there are users complaining about it since it came out but the truth its that it was designed with this fan curve by default by the engineers and it will not be changed so its up to everyone to decide if they want to keep it or not because this is not an issue theres nothing wrong it works the way it was designed to by factory defaults and as i said unfortunately i really doubt even with many complaining that it will change at all which to me its no issue at all also as i stated before in many threads about the same complain if anyone needs a laptop to work in a silent places or school etc.. do not get a gaming laptop (just for show off) they were not designed to work quietly  get a normal one and there wont be any noise issues 

And as you could see in the fan curve rpm values you posted above you would need to be under 29 to achieve the desired silent rpm's off course that will never happen in the 9th gen cpus i can get mine to completely stop the fans when it goes under 40 cpu/gpu but its a i5 7th gen nothing comparable to the heat generated by a 9th gen cpu so to me those fan curves make total sense as the cpu generates much more heat that the previous gens but seems to me that this is what most ppl dont understand they want it by force to be on low rpms and that is not possible on stock this is what i call a safe curve to make sure the cpu/gpu doesnt overheat and always have enough cooling also theres always the possibility of watercooling mods (i have seen it done before) for anyone who would be into modding

Stuont firstly previous gen predators didnt had silent mode what they had was different fan curves as the older cpu/gpus thermal arent the same as the new gen they would heat less (if properly repasted/undervolted) and of course you are you trying to compare the lenovo i7 4th gen cpu with a current 9th gen :P this is what makes me laugh sometimes ppl comparing older gen cpus  and their temps with newer gen so if this is the case ill throw in my 7745G i7 740QM 1st gen to also compare the temps  
Now regarding you advising everyone not to buy any acer laptops ??? 
What are you talking about if you dont like the H300 series  just because its noisy get any other variant theres loads to choose from with similar secs including the new concept variants

Your post doesnt make any sense to me and it shouldnt make any sense either to anyone who knows how a laptop gaming/not gaming works but its fine you and much more have your own idea how it should be  but that doesnt mean its its gonna be and if your idea its to have a gaming laptop and that it wont be a bit noisy im sorry to inform you but you would be better getting a desktop build for all the tasks you need to perform in (silent mode) when performing any tasks i recommend you to get watercooling for it this way you wont hear it

PS: and the so called noise you all talk about its due to the new metal aeroblades 4th gen 

Stuont said:

strider16 said:

Reading about xtu, throttlestop and other search results about power efficiency, the power target for a well tuned intel mobile cpu, considering kaby lake and newer, is about 0.4 W idle power usage, all cores getting >99% c8-state, and, here is the deal to really get <1W power draw, package in c8-state >80% of time.

Your laptop stops fans at 40c while mine (PH317-53) works at 1700rpm cpu fan 2200rpm gpu fan at 35C and 3 Watt power consumption (with no way to turn down fans)

It's just ridiculous.

For example, we can compare it with qualcomm snapdragon 845 (having 5 Watt TDP which is higher than mine 3 Watt idle). This 5 Watt mobile CPU is put to small casing with no active cooling and even no fresh air access to heatsinks.

Ok now youre comparing mobile phones too lol and as i said you cant compare the tdp has nothing to do with the heating difference they dont even have the same architecture its the same as me saying for ex oh my p3 has the same tdp as the p4 but why does the p4 heats much more its pretty obvious isnt it and you keep comparing a really old cpu with a latest gen why ????? they are years away to be on the same level and yes all old variant predators switch the fans off under 40 (this is easily achievable on the 2017 not so much on the 2018 more cores = more heat) for just a small amount of time the issue here its there wont be a fix because acer believes theres nothing broken and the curves are just fine so what will happen next its the users wither live with it or swap to another model if the fans are too annoying

PS: you would probably give a good engineer to work for any laptop manufacturer in the cooling section by the way you do your comparisons you could give it a try you never know also aka xtu its useless if you want to proper undervolt you have to use TS not xtu and also xtu figures most of the times are not accurate at all

Stuont all manufacturers do the same they all go by the same rules so i dunno what youre talking about but as i said you should apply for a job there and teach them all how to do their own job since you know everything already also for your information acer doesnt do like most manufacturers that use max-q gpus in the middle range to get the temps down and of course less performance they use the normal desktop variants and always will performance above everything else is the key to the business

Stuont no manufacturer would change anything in their specs just because some users don not like some of the features/settings that they have setup which doesnt even affect the performance designed for that device  thats why there are many manufacturers with different features and choices and if anyone is not happy with their device my suggestion its to just move to another that suits them easy to solve not saying by any means that you or all the others are wrong the issue is they could do it but they wont its not a device fault according to their own design they will not change something in a mass production device if its not a fault its juts how it works unfortunately for some

If i could only choose a top 3 choice i would always choose acer first then msi (some models only) and probably asus on last of my list (excluding of course their worst build ever the TUF they are just useless period) i like asus more for desktop builds mobos gpus etc this after all the reviews i had read about all and having my hands on a useless expensive TUF 

strider16 said:

Stuont said:

Your laptop stops fans at 40c while mine (PH317-53) works at 1700rpm cpu fan 2200rpm gpu fan at 35C and 3 Watt power consumption (with no way to turn down fans)

It's just ridiculous.

For example, we can compare it with qualcomm snapdragon 845 (having 5 Watt TDP which is higher than mine 3 Watt idle). This 5 Watt mobile CPU is put to small casing with no active cooling and even no fresh air access to heatsinks.

Programs which run at 2% or 3% cpu time make no difference in a desktop, but in a laptop are the difference between it running cool or getting strangely warm, the difference between 1 W and 3 W is 300% lol!

I really would search for any program running in background, and see if any program calls for discrete gpu without need, and this happens a lot if you don't look.

Exactly if you dont set them up manually on which gpu you want them to run even windows software will be running in the DGPU if you dont change it manually especially this one (windowsinternal.composableshell.experiences.textinput.inputapp.exe) i managed to tag them all and changed them all to only use the IGPU and will keep doing so when they popup