Nitro 5 AN515-44 Windows fast startup problem

SunSetTR
SunSetTR Member Posts: 76 Devotee WiFi Icon

I have made a Windows 11 upgrade, my black screen problem continues again.I've been having the same problem since Windows 11 came out.After the Windows 11 logo, it remains on the black screen.Pressing the Windows + CTRL + Shift + B keys at the same time does not react.I press CTRL + Shift + ESC, the task manager does not open.I close the screen cover, it does not go to sleep mode.The mouse cursor does not appear on the screen. When I press the power button for a long time and the computer shuts down, this time Windows 11 turns on smoothly.

I have not experienced a black screen problem on Windows 10. I noticed that my computer was not working well when Windows fast startup was turned on. My TPM information is also loading late when Windows fast startup is on. Is it possible that because Windows 11 makes TPM mandatory, the TPM information does not appear and the computer does not turn on? My SSD drive is intact, everything looks fine. I cleared the TPM, reset the Secure Boot.

Such a beautiful device, I started to hate Acer products because of a small problem. Why is there no BIOS update support for this device? i have been using the computer for 1.5 years and I am still using the V1.04 BIOS version.

@Acer-Jose @Acer-Ingrid

Answers

  • Emma_
    Emma_ Moderator, Member Posts: 226 Moderator

    Hello!!

    @SunSetTR

    I'm sorry to hear that you're having trouble with your computer after upgrading to Windows 11. It's possible that the black screen issue is related to the fast startup feature or TPM, as you've mentioned. Here are a few troubleshooting steps you can try:

    1.Disable fast startup: Go to Settings > System > Power & sleep > Additional power settings > Choose what the power buttons do > Change settings that are currently unavailable > uncheck "Turn on fast startup (recommended)" > Save changes.

    2.Check TPM status: Go to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Security > Device security > Security processor details. Check if the TPM is present and enabled.

    3.Update drivers: Check if there are any driver updates available for your system. You can download and install them from the Acer support website.

    4.Check for BIOS updates: Visit the Acer support website and check if there are any BIOS updates available for your device. If there are, follow the instructions to download and install the update.

    5.Run a system file check: Open Command Prompt as an administrator and type "sfc /scannow" (without quotes) and hit enter. This will check and repair any corrupted system files.

    Perform a clean boot: Temporarily disable all startup programs and services to see if any of them are causing the issue. Instructions for performing a clean boot can be found on the Microsoft support website.

    Regards,

    LunaNova14

  • SunSetTR
    SunSetTR Member Posts: 76 Devotee WiFi Icon
    edited April 2023

    It seems that you don't understand me. Have you checked the BIOS version, what did I write there? When the quick start is turned off, my problem has already been fixed. I mentioned that Windows 11 has been installed before. If I installed Windows 11, I did it on a clean installation.Jul.Jul.Don't write the same things without understanding me! I have been applying the same solutions since I bought this computer. Are you writing ready-made messages like you're making fun of me, am I stupid? Because of this problem, I forcibly changed the motherboard to the service, it was not solved again. So this problem is a chronic problem that needs a new BIOS update!

  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 13,441 Trailblazer
    edited April 2023

    How did you upgrade from W10 to W11, was this upgrade offered by Windows or did you perhaps download some ISO file and installed it over your old W10? It looks like some drivers are not W11 compatible, check your Device Manager if you see any yellow problem icons also in hidden devices. There is better and faster boot process available called Hibernate that I am using instead of Fast Startup, disable Fast Startup and enable Hibernate (same menu) so Hibernate will show in the Start-Shutdown menu. Try it, faster and you will get all the Events and Diagnosis that with Fast Startup you won't get, almost like a fresh boot. Advice: Do not disparage us, we are peers like yourself, and share experiences purely as a hobby in this community. I know you are probably frustrated with your laptop but you will get the best from this forum only by courteous and civil communication: Acer is world's leader in laptops, there are pros and cons with any PC brand depending on your wishes and budget😉

  • SunSetTR
    SunSetTR Member Posts: 76 Devotee WiFi Icon
    edited April 2023

    He said it was compatible with Windows 11 and I upgraded it. He proved that it works with Windows 11 at Acer. I have previously performed a clean installation of Windows 11 with ISO. ---k

    I indicated that I was waiting for the TPM information to load when quick launch was turned on in Windows 10.

    There is no such problem on my Asus laptop with the same processor. In addition, AMD has released a TMP fix patch, which I think should come with the BIOS.

    Acer is proof that it does not stand behind the product it sells. Acer engineers are not interested in this situation. I returned my Aspire 3 computer earlier from a similar problem and bought Acer again, this time it seems to be a software chronic problem again.

    I will not recommend the Acer product to my environment again. Asus or Lenovo are very good at this update business.

  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 13,441 Trailblazer
    edited April 2023

    Again, this community forum is not Acer's Answer forum/feedback medium, although moderators here are associated with Acer, users are just like you. What you are doing with these critical posts is detrimental in a friendly community, serves absolutely no purpose, other than blowing of some steam, and IMO completely wrong because Asus and Acer are very healthy Taiwanese competitors in exactly the same field: Asus is much younger and was started by ex-Acer engineers, their Rog laptops may rate a bit better than Acer's (Asus makes their own MOBOs) but the general consensus (Google it) is that the mid-range laptops are identical in quality and price, Acer's worlwide support also rates better, and please don't get me started on Lenovo😐️

  • Rena182
    Rena182 Member Posts: 2 New User

    Saw many ppl having the same problem with Nitro and/or predator. Wasnt updating my windows but I choose to update 2 weeks ago. My nitro started lagging on startup and taking too much time (20min) just to open windows desktop and thow exeplorer.exe while stuck on welcome screen. Tried to update windows 10 on this last update and also tried to update my bios. Things got worse!

    Got stuck in Inaccesible boot device (win10 blue screen). Fixed that by disablin fast boot on bios setup, choosing the correct boot device and also changing to AHCI SATA boot setup (HD). My ssd became unreadable. Started windows again with no blue screen and had a huge headache to fix my ssd (making it readable again). This is more like a troubleshooting for the problems ppl are dealing

  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 13,441 Trailblazer
    edited April 2023

    Take the time and visit (as guest) other computer forums like Dell, Intel or Lenovo (I know I do) and you will find similar complaints and rantings like this thread, it is very difficult to keep everybody happy. In my country (the Philippines) I rate Acer's support as the best, on every issue (hardware and software) I got promptly personal help and W10 upgrades/updates that failed were (remotely) fixed. Cannot say the same for others, still waiting on an inquiry I made 1 month ago for a different brand laptop. No idea when you guys bought your W10 gaming laptops but if that was in the last 2 years you only have yourself to blaim for firmware or driver update issues. Very few spend $1,000-2,000 on a 4 year old gaming laptop model that does not have a high end CPU (like Intel's Core i9-12900K), in the middle of Windows major restructuring campaign (at the end of the 10 year W10 period). You should have waited a bit till W11 22H2 was released and get the latest laptop model with high end CPUs, and used your old gaming PCs meanwhile. PCIe (5.0) SSDs are also far more reliable, cooler (consume far less power) while Sata 2.5" V-NAND SSDs completely replace the mechanical HDDs. Maybe time to buy a new 2023 W11 laptop, either Acer or Asus?

  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 13,441 Trailblazer

    Try Hibernate instead of Shutdown, enable Hibernate in the Power Plan menu ("Choose what closing the lid does") faster than Fast Startup and all events and diagnosis are recorded almost the same as a fresh boot😉

  • SunSetTR
    SunSetTR Member Posts: 76 Devotee WiFi Icon

    How easily you say it! I think don't waste your breath! It's ridiculous that this computer hasn't received a BIOS update yet. The Windows 11 22H2 version has already been released. I will never buy Acer again. You're telling me a fairy tale. Is it just Windows 11 that's the problem? When I bought the computer, it also had a problem with TPM, it must have been a mistake to buy it at that time. There must have been a problem when I bought it from here and Acer should have solved it, if it can't solve it, I'm saying that I'll get the same support again when I buy another computer.

    @egydiocoelho can you tell this friend, he is trying to do everything in his power not to understand me.

  • SunSetTR
    SunSetTR Member Posts: 76 Devotee WiFi Icon

    There are some reports from users who participate in the community, mentioning that there is a drop in performance when the tpm of models that have amd ryzen processors is activated in the bios. This problem was also mentioned in the amd changelog and they state that this solution will only occur with a uefi firmware update (bios), see:  https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/faq/pa-410

    When users disable tpm in bios, the issue is resolved. However, one of the requirements for windows 11 to be installed or working properly, is that tpm needs to be enabled in the bios.

    Other users are also reporting that the display of this model is blinking and the audio is having problems: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/672999/an515-44-win-11-tela-pisca-de-vez- em-Quando-e-ai-as-vezas-ela-trava#latest e https://community.acer.com/pt/discussion/672901/acer-nitro-5-ryzen-7-tela-pisca-e- audio-his-gets-half-robotized#latest


    It seems that the problem is partially solved by disabling virtualization.

    Acer Nitro 5 - Ryzen 7 tela pisca e áudio dele fica meio robotizado

  • davidwarner007
    davidwarner007 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    If you are experiencing a problem with Windows fast startup on your Nitro 5 AN515-44, there could be a few possible causes for this issue. Here are some troubleshooting steps you can try:

    1. Disable fast startup: First, try disabling fast startup in Windows to see if this resolves the issue. To do this, go to the Control Panel, click on Power Options, and select "Choose what the power buttons do". Next, click on "Change settings that are currently unavailable" and uncheck the box next to "Turn on fast startup". Save your changes and restart your computer.
    2. Update drivers: Check for any updates for your system drivers, especially the graphics driver, from the Acer website or from the manufacturer's website. An outdated driver can cause issues with fast startup.
    3. Check for viruses: Run a virus scan on your computer to make sure it is not infected with malware. Malware can sometimes interfere with fast startup.
    4. Check for disk errors: Open Command Prompt as an administrator and type "chkdsk /f /r" and press Enter. This command will scan your hard drive for any errors and fix them if it finds any. You may need to restart your computer to complete the scan.
    5. Disable unnecessary startup programs: Check for any unnecessary programs that may be starting up with Windows and disable them. This will help speed up the boot time and prevent any conflicts with fast startup.

    If none of the above solutions resolve the issue, you may want to consider restoring your system to a previous point or resetting Windows to its default settings. If the problem still persists, it could be a hardware issue and you may need to contact Acer's technical support team for further assistance.


  • SunSetTR
    SunSetTR Member Posts: 76 Devotee WiFi Icon

    There is no hardware problem, I have sent it to the service before. There are also internet solutions for what you say. Would I bring it up if it was solved with these solutions? Please read and reply to all the messages on the page to understand what I want to say. Don't give people copy-paste answers. Thanks.

  • davidwarner007
    davidwarner007 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    The Nitro 5 AN515-44 is a gaming laptop produced by Acer. "Windows fast startup" refers to a feature in Windows operating systems that allows the computer to boot up more quickly by using a hibernation file to save the system state and restore it upon startup.

    If there is a problem with Windows fast startup on the Nitro 5 AN515-44, it could be due to a variety of reasons. Some possible causes and solutions include:

    1. Corrupted hibernation file: The hibernation file may have become corrupted, preventing Windows from using it to start up quickly. To fix this, the user could try disabling fast startup in the Windows Control Panel, then re-enabling it to create a new hibernation file.
    2. Driver conflicts: Issues with drivers for hardware components in the laptop could be causing problems with fast startup. To fix this, the user could try updating their drivers to the latest versions or uninstalling and reinstalling them.
    3. BIOS settings: Some BIOS settings on the laptop may be preventing fast startup from working properly. To fix this, the user could try resetting the BIOS to default settings or consulting the manufacturer's support documentation for specific guidance.
    4. Hardware issues: In some cases, problems with hardware components such as the hard drive or RAM may be causing issues with fast startup. The user could try running hardware diagnostics to identify and address any hardware issues.

    Overall, troubleshooting Windows fast startup issues on the Nitro 5 AN515-44 may require some trial and error, as there could be multiple factors contributing to the problem. If the issue persists, it may be necessary to seek help from a technical support specialist or professional.


  • SunSetTR
    SunSetTR Member Posts: 76 Devotee WiFi Icon

    The read / write speed of the SSD seems normal. I did the RAM test and it says no errors were found. I sent it to the service, it passed the 24-hour test. In case of a problem again, the service has changed the motherboard and the same problem continues. The firmware version of the SSD is up to date. Someone using this computer can give the correct answer.

  • Lextersmith
    Lextersmith Member Posts: 13

    Tinkerer

    Hi! I have Nitro 5 AN515-44(4600h) laptop and Win10. My OS says that my PC doesn`t meet minimal requirement to even install Win11 😁. Few month ago I had a problem with sound (I guess OS updated driver automatically and corrupted it). Right now I have a problem with selfdischarging battery. Please, can you test your laptop if it has 1 - 1,5% per day selfdischarge while being Powered Off completely(Fastboot OFF\Hibernation OFF\Sleep OFF)? As for BIOS support: latest is V1.04 02/04/2021.