Acre Aspire 5 Slim A515-43-R19L

Atlsk847
Atlsk847 Member Posts: 6

Tinkerer

edited October 2023 in 2020 Archives
I just received the Acer aspire 5 Slim A515-43-R19L model. I’ve havnt even plugged it in and turned it on yet. I have (2x 4g DDR4) 8 g ram and a 2tb 2.5 SATA Firecuda SSHDD to add for upgrades. Should I turn on and set up the laptop or add the upgrade parts first?

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  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020 Answer ✓
    I see, you're planning on cloning the contents of the SSD and use the Firecuda as the main drive, but you're worried about needing to reconfigure the boot.

    You may not need to, what are you going to use to clone the disk? I ask because when cloning is done right the boot menu entry will appear. I have never performed what you're about to, going from NVMe to SATA with an existing Windows installation, but you may need to reconfigure Windows nevertheless. I bet it's going to expect to boot from the SSD instead.

    But the solution is easy:
     - Clone the disk, take off the SSD and leave just the hybrid.
     - Try to boot, RAM is unimportant in this case so you can swap it already.
     - If Windows boots and doesn't complain about not being able to find the boot device, great!
     - If it does, then take the hybrid disk out, place the SSD back in and go through its login and initial setup until you're able to use Windows.

    We'll then prepare it for a change of boot media booting from an USB for example.

    By the way, may I ask why the swap to the hybrid HDD? Is it because of the space it brings? I only ask because the SSD should perform better for a system drive.

    Oh, and if you're not to clone, there's a guide I wrote on how to cleanly install Windows that may come in handy: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/893916/#Comment_893916

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  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    It's up to you, really.

    If it were me, I'd just replace the parts, install Windows and be begin my doing without even running the stock installation. You could clone the installation to the new disk and then start from there; but I don't think I'd power up the machine first without doing the upgrades.

    I'd image the disk in fact before even booting it up to run it in virtual later on and see what it came with haha (it you do, I wouldn't mind taking a loot at it, I could guide you through the procedure).

    However, another way of thought, would be to run it first before the upgrades to ensure everything is working as it should. You'd be repeating tasks like setting up Windows and all if you end up installing Windows anew instead of cloning the disk, but it seems sensible to think this way too; otherwise if something doesn't work after the upgrades you won't know if it did with the stock thing or not.
  • Atlsk847
    Atlsk847 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    Windows is on the M.2 NMVe SSD (128g only storage preinstalled) . I  was hoping to migrate windows to the Firecuda SATA SSHDD (ive done this in the past with older machines and have used the hybrid drive’s SSD component for fast boot speeds. I’ve never done it on a brand new machine. My main concern is somehow messing up the initial bit by changing the ram and adding a second storage drive. 
  • Atlsk847
    Atlsk847 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    “Initial boot”
  • Atlsk847
    Atlsk847 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    I’ll have to reconfigure the SSHDD drive for the machine to recognize it, and was worried that might cause issues with the initial boot. 
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020 Answer ✓
    I see, you're planning on cloning the contents of the SSD and use the Firecuda as the main drive, but you're worried about needing to reconfigure the boot.

    You may not need to, what are you going to use to clone the disk? I ask because when cloning is done right the boot menu entry will appear. I have never performed what you're about to, going from NVMe to SATA with an existing Windows installation, but you may need to reconfigure Windows nevertheless. I bet it's going to expect to boot from the SSD instead.

    But the solution is easy:
     - Clone the disk, take off the SSD and leave just the hybrid.
     - Try to boot, RAM is unimportant in this case so you can swap it already.
     - If Windows boots and doesn't complain about not being able to find the boot device, great!
     - If it does, then take the hybrid disk out, place the SSD back in and go through its login and initial setup until you're able to use Windows.

    We'll then prepare it for a change of boot media booting from an USB for example.

    By the way, may I ask why the swap to the hybrid HDD? Is it because of the space it brings? I only ask because the SSD should perform better for a system drive.

    Oh, and if you're not to clone, there's a guide I wrote on how to cleanly install Windows that may come in handy: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/893916/#Comment_893916
  • Atlsk847
    Atlsk847 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    Thanks so much. I’m installing the RAM now. And will try your recommendation. I’m using the hybrid because I do publishing and editing work. I need a lot of storage but not a ton of writing speed (just want fast boot) and it’s much more cost effective. An m.2  SSD would cost 3 times as much to upgrade, and I already had the hybrid laying around. I’ve  been doing most of my work on  the IPad Pro, but most of the older people in the industry use MS publisher and it’s just a pain converting files to pdf and then back again for reedits. So I figured I’d buy a cheap windows machine and upgrade it with existing parts. 
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    Publisher really?! I thought they'd use something else, I'm not up to date on publishing software but I know of InDesign and Quark at least... hell, even Scribus (I used it back in the day circa 2007 or something).

    What's the state of the art app for publishing these days?
  • Atlsk847
    Atlsk847 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    I couldn’t tell you. I lucked into this. I have 5 clients. I made a flyer for my moms birthday and then was asked to do a poster for their local horse rescue group, then their newsletter,  and then had a few associated jobs roll in after that. I stated using whatever free layout apps I could find on my iPad and using Word for the copy. Then I started using pages a couple years back because it’s so easy. But they proof /print using MS publisher so I spending a ***** ton of time converting files. I graduated with a Lit degree and used that and the previous work I had done for the horse group as my reference. I was just writing BS copy, tutoring, translating locally, and barely getting by before this. I’m faking it in hopes of making it. Hopefully one day I’ll actually know something. But for now, what I’m doing is working. No ones called me out or complained yet. If you have any advice, I’d greatly appreciate it. 
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    Great for you!! I hope it all works out! I have more of a CS background and editing for me was part of a collaborative work for a magazine where they used Scribus (it was Linux based so that's what it was), so I don't know much on the subject to teach I'm afraid.

    I know from Adobe's programs (at least Photoshop) it is possible to produce PDFs that are easily imported back into the same app for editing, not to other apps, but still. It was an option when saving.

    If you need stock images, or iconography that you can use these could be some interesting resources and those that require subscriptions could end up paying for themselves if things work out fine:
     - https://unsplash.com
     - https://icons8.com
     - https://www.flaticon.com

    For icon design and all I have yet to look at this: https://norde.io

    And for fonts Google has you covered ;)https://fonts.google.com