memory

rags759
rags759 Member Posts: 6

Tinkerer

edited October 2023 in 2020 Archives
I have an Aspire M5-583P-9688 laptop. The label on the keyboard indicates that the machine has 8 GB DDR3 L memory; however, the machine only has a 4 MB chip installed. Can this machine be upgraded?

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  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,726 Trailblazer
    Hi,
    You have 4GB onboard memory and a slot for upgrade, could you please install and run CPU-z, post the pictures of Memory tab and SPD tab, I think you can upgrade up to 12GB(4GB onboard+8GB).
    https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

  • rags759
    rags759 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    Thanks for the assist, I'm an amateur at this


  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    It seems you have another stick of 4 GB installed installed into the socket @brummyfan2 mentioned, and he's right, 16GB is the theoretical limit for the processor you have (i7 4500U), since 4 of them are already locked in the maximum you can put is an stick of 8 replacing the 4 GB stick you have to get 12.

    If you wish to delve more into the topic, drop by this thread: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/608352/guide-how-to-find-out-if-you-can-upgrade-the-ram-and-which-one-you-need
  • rags759
    rags759 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    Wow! That's a lot of info, most of which is way over my head. Does a pic of the chip help?
  • rags759
    rags759 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    I'm just trying to speed up the machine a bit and avoid buying a new one if I can help it. I'm running AutoCAD and QuickBooks. It's gotten r-e-a-l-l-y slow and aggravating to work with
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    What kind of disk are you using? Is it a mechanical hard drive or an SSD? Because if you're trying to speed up, with 8 GB and working on dual channel the obvious bottleneck would be the hard drive if it is mechanical. It would be better to spend some money in a SATA SSD instead of upgrading the RAM.

    The image is nice, but the important data is underneath the first sticker you see in the RAM chip (it's covering the original one with some part number from Acer), but it's fine, if updating the RAM is what you're after the CPU-Z screenshot is good enough, in the sense that there are more things to take into consideration, but you're looking for DDR3-1600 SODIMMs (or DDR3L too probably). If you want something equal to what you have now, use another of the diagnostic programs I mentioned in the article to find out which one you have (or take out that first sticker haha).
  • rags759
    rags759 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    Here's another pic of system specs, hope this helps
    This has been a great machine but it's getting old. Does it really make sense to put the $$ into a SSD and memory upgrade vs a new machine?


  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    That summary is just what we needed, are those two SATA drives internal? One is running at SATA II speeds, the Seagate one, maybe it's put in one of those caddies?

    Anyway, Yep, the memory you need is DDR3-1600, but as I said, right now you have 8 GB of it running in dual channel. It would be enough RAM for me, and the processor isn't bad either (supports up to AVX2!), I have one from '08 (a Core 2 Duo T9500) in a machine with 4 GB of RAM and the only thing that makes it feel snappy is the SSD. It could even be a daily driver if it weren't for the crappy NVIDIA 8600M GT furnace it has inside (can't render videos in YouTube at 1080p for example because of the hardware acceleration, but has no problem doing it in MPC-BE for example). And it's SATA link is only SATA II because of how old it is!!

    It's a matter of opinion of course, but I think even an el-cheapo 250 GB SSD to be used as the system drive would make much more of a difference than any RAM upgrade you could do. Depending on the drive they'd be around 30-50€ over here, inexpensive upgrade for a significant boost.

    Sure, a new laptop say... sub 600€ ought to perform better for sure, but if that one is working fine, I'd just take the main drive off of it, place it in an enclosure maybe to have as another external 1 TB drive and replace it with an SSD. And if you end up needing to change the laptop down the road, you'd have a SATA SSD for whatever you wanted.
  • rags759
    rags759 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    Thanks for the advice. I think I’ll try the SSD first as you suggest to see if any improvement then go from there. Very much appreciate your expertise
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    You're welcome!

    There's another guide that could prove useful because I wouldn't clone whatever I have installed in the main drive, but install Windows cleanly in the SSD: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/893916/#Comment_893916