Can I Overclock Intel i3 2348m

Manomay
Manomay Member Posts: 34 Enthusiast WiFi Icon
edited October 2023 in 2020 Archives
Hi, I wanted to know that can I Overclock Intel i3 2348m. I can't ask it on the Intel community because I am not 18.

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  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020 Answer ✓
    Out of the box? Nope, for sure.

    After modding your BIOS (which goes against the ACUA since you'd be circumventing security measures so this is not the place for that kind of discussion), maybe... but I have no idea how any of that is done in laptops.

    If XTU or Throttlestop are supported in your platform it may be possible to get some increased performance by undervolting for example, but that's an if that depends on many things. Some manufacturers prevent undervolting directly, others undervolt themselves. There are just way too many parameters related to boosts and performance in processors these days a detailed guide would be too long to write.

    Overclocking on laptops, even if it were feasible, would be unwise because of the cooling systems they employ. Think a mere 10% boost may result in more heat that the cooling system can't dissipate effectively.
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
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    Yep, that's the brand of the BIOS manufacturer I believe, we're looking for the BIOS version.

    Press F2 repeatedly when booting the laptop and you may see an info tab similar to this one, note the highlighted area:


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  • Manomay
    Manomay Member Posts: 34 Enthusiast WiFi Icon
    And is it OK to use Intel XTU on it because it is not listed in the usable processors.
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020 Answer ✓
    Out of the box? Nope, for sure.

    After modding your BIOS (which goes against the ACUA since you'd be circumventing security measures so this is not the place for that kind of discussion), maybe... but I have no idea how any of that is done in laptops.

    If XTU or Throttlestop are supported in your platform it may be possible to get some increased performance by undervolting for example, but that's an if that depends on many things. Some manufacturers prevent undervolting directly, others undervolt themselves. There are just way too many parameters related to boosts and performance in processors these days a detailed guide would be too long to write.

    Overclocking on laptops, even if it were feasible, would be unwise because of the cooling systems they employ. Think a mere 10% boost may result in more heat that the cooling system can't dissipate effectively.
  • Manomay
    Manomay Member Posts: 34 Enthusiast WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020
    So may I over clock it or not ? And I have also seen that some of the BIOS like CMOS Setup Utility allows users to Overclock there processors. I have an InsydeH2O setup utility and in my case I upgraded form win 7 to 10 and in my laptop drivers and manuals list bios for windows 7 and 8are only available. So should I updte the BIOS or not ??
    As this is so confusing......
    Please help me
  • Manomay
    Manomay Member Posts: 34 Enthusiast WiFi Icon
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020
    Let's try to simplify it a bit, overclocking isn't going to be possible in your laptop, there are numerous reasons be the main one is that many of the settings for it are done by Acer at their manufacturing facility and then locked into the hardware so they can't be modified.

    Upgrading your BIOS to an oficial one could bring improvements, sure, like newer microcode, or better power management, but that's about it. They won't ever allow you to overclock your machine. Think that the SATA operation mode (something innocuous) was hidden some revisions ago for many laptops and now one has to press Ctrl+S in the Main tab for it to appear.

    As for drivers I wouldn't worry, if you're still not running Windows 10 and would like to update to it we could guide you and it (Windows Update) will install most if not all of the necessary drivers. It has a *huge* catalog of drivers at its disposal, both provided by OEMs (Acer, Dell, Lenovo, ...) and provided by parts manufacturers as well (NVIDIA, AMD, ...).

    Dave2d had a video some time ago that explained undervolting and re-pasting, which could be possible for your machine (re-pasting for sure, undervolting depends on how Acer, Intel, etc. configured it):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBNP5I2y668
  • Manomay
    Manomay Member Posts: 34 Enthusiast WiFi Icon
    What BIOS should I use for my laptop, if I want to upgrade . Because there are no BIOS options for windows 10
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020
    Manomay said:
    What BIOS should I use for my laptop, if I want to upgrade . Because there are no BIOS options for windows 10
    Any will do, firmware (BIOS) updates are independent of the OS you're running. They generally require Windows to be used when applying them because the installer is for Windows, but you could be running Linux without any problem.

    I wrote a guide on installing Windows 10, it could prove useful if/when you're ready for the procedure: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/893916/#Comment_893916

    This one would be the latest BIOS upgrade for your system: BIOS_Acer_2.21_A_A.zip
  • Manomay
    Manomay Member Posts: 34 Enthusiast WiFi Icon
    Thanks , so according to you , which one should I choose. See the link.
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/IN/content/support-product/4098?b=1&pn=NX.M09SI.031
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    Whoa!! Hold our horses... which one do you have installed right now? Upgrading the BIOS may not be needed after all, and seeing there are a couple there with some warnings I don't know I would recommend risking it. I'm sorry I pointed to one without seeing there was a jump in the major number or it (there are safeguards in place too that prevent stupid stuff when updating, but still, it's my bad).

    Wherever Windows 7 is installed, Windows 10 can be as well. I have it installed in a laptop that came with Vista, so go figure, it lost BIOS updates for years now.

    Access your BIOS and not the revision it's at, to verify. We'll see about updating or not later on.
  • Manomay
    Manomay Member Posts: 34 Enthusiast WiFi Icon
    Thank you very much. I have Inside H2O BIOS currently
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    Answer ✓
    Yep, that's the brand of the BIOS manufacturer I believe, we're looking for the BIOS version.

    Press F2 repeatedly when booting the laptop and you may see an info tab similar to this one, note the highlighted area:


  • Manomay
    Manomay Member Posts: 34 Enthusiast WiFi Icon
    Thank you very much for getting me out of all this dilemma.
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020
    Manomay said:
    Thank you very much for getting me out of all this dilemma.

    No problem :)

    Better safe than sorry when doing this things, if updating the BIOS is not necessary, let's not do it. Windows 10 works well both in UEFI and legacy modes, so whatever you have will be good.
  • Manomay
    Manomay Member Posts: 34 Enthusiast WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020
    But it my case , when UEFI is selected there it shows that no bootable devices found and prompts to restart. So for this do we have to change the partition type from MBR to GPT ?? And like BIOS do we have to download UEFI. If yes , please provide me with some knowledge for that...
    Thank you
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020
    UEFI and legacy have different requirements, but they're just ways of operating; there's nothing to download ;). Although one can't switch from one to the other with the same Windows installation and expect it to boot. That's a decision that's made at the point of installing Windows because the requirements are different.

    For example, UEFI demands the partitioning of the disk to be GPT and legacy requires a traditional partition table.

    When installing Windows, if you follow the guide I mentioned, there'll be a time when we delete every single partition there is in the disk. At that time you should have made your choice in the BIOS, either UEFI or legacy, but it's there to stick. Because the next step was to select the empty space and click next.

    Doing that makes the Windows installer look at what boot system you have and partition the disk appropriately, GPT, MBR, etc.

    Which one is your BIOS version by the way, were you able to look it up?

    EDIT: Don't hesitate to ask anything you don't know or understand, we're all here to learn.
  • Manomay
    Manomay Member Posts: 34 Enthusiast WiFi Icon
    I have more than 3 partitions. If I use MBR2GPT.EXE then will it affect my partitions ?
  • Manomay
    Manomay Member Posts: 34 Enthusiast WiFi Icon
    The current BIOS version is 2.09
  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 12,065 Trailblazer
    edited July 2020
    Manomay said:
    Hi, I wanted to know that can I Overclock Intel i3 2348m. I can't ask it on the Intel community because I am not 18.

    You don’t need to overclock the i3-2348M just replace the cpu with the i7-2710QE (S-Spec number - SR02T, they are very cheap on ebay as that will give you at least a 100% relative performance increase to whatever the i3-2348M will give you! Overclocking is useless and will damage your system components "DO NOT DO IT"! I’ve upgraded cpu's lots of times with many Socket G2 Sandy Bridge cpu’s on many laptops and it works perfectly, also add the max ram e.g. DDR3L-1866MHz and you will have a great and quick laptop, simple!


  • Manomay
    Manomay Member Posts: 34 Enthusiast WiFi Icon
    It's not too simple because it costs money.
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020
    Manomay said:
    The current BIOS version is 2.09
    Good, we'll leave it like that for now, there's no need to upgrade and it can always be done at any other point. It's good to know you're in the 2.x branch and not the 1.x branch in case we needed to upgrade.

    StevenGen said:
    You don’t need to overclock the i3-2348M just replace the cpu with the i7-2710QE
    That part has a higher TDP (meaning it generates more heat simply speaking), he could need a better cooling solution if he's going to push it. For a swap he should also check that the 2348M he has comes in a PGA package (i.e. it is user replaceable) instead of a BGA one (soldered into the motherboard) because the 2348M presents in both. Not hard, but getting the part does cost money.

    StevenGen said:
    Overclocking is useless and will damage your system components "DO NOT DO IT"
    I... humbly beg to differ, even manufacturers do it directly. Light overclocking can be specially useful and many manufacturers already do it by default. My i7 10510 for example, it's base frequency is 1.8 GHz, but Acer tweaked it to be 2.30 by default:



    But overclocking is a world on its own, many things to tweak and also many ways to damage things.