Aspire E5-774G RAM question

orvieto11
orvieto11 Member Posts: 12

Tinkerer

edited October 2023 in 2020 Archives
Sorry I'm sure it's already well discussed topic.

I have Aspire E5-774G with factory installed 8GB of Ram, I believe that it has another slot open, and would like to add another one.

Can I add 16GB, so total would be 24GB? How about the speed: factory 8GB is 2133MHz, can I install 2400, 2666, or even 3200MHz? I believe that you don't see any difference of actual task, but better to buy faster MHz (because no price difference)?

THANK YOU GUYS!!

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  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020 Answer ✓
    Yes, it's perfectly possible, you can go up to 32 GB max. probably, it'd depend on your processor.

    It could be tricky to match the 8 GB stick you have already installed, or it could be trivial. Sometimes it's hard to know which memory is compatible with which even if they share the same primary timings (or at least the CAS latency, that CL you see advertised), which may make the computer not even boot up.

    Unless one gets a matched set, those that are sold as a pack of 2, it's trial and error. I make it sound dreary but most of the time there's no problem getting a stick that's similar to the one that's already present.

    Run HWiNFO and post here the details of what you have installed and I'll try to give you more info (right click, open in a new tab to see it better):



    As for the RAM clock speed, it depends on the processor you have as well as the RAM type. In your case 2133 MHz means it's DDR4 and that's likely the max. frequency your processor supports. You can get memory that goes faster because it has profiles to run at lower frequencies, you won't be getting past 2133 MHz (it can still be useful if you find a cheaper 2400 MHz module for example that's compatible with the one you have).

    For example, mine is DDR4 2666 MHz, but in that screenshot you can see it has profiles for running at 2400, 2133 and 1866 MHz (the D from DDR stands for double).
  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,590 Trailblazer
    Answer ✓
    orvieto11 said:
    Thank you for your posts,
    OK I saw the YT clip, thank you! Although I won't play game on this Acer, it sounds like it's better to install another 8GB to make it dual channel. But does the installed and new memory's speed have to match to make it dual? Or as long as they are same size that's ok?
    Here is my info, please advise.



    Thank you guys, I meant to give both of you solved message, but sorry it only went to aphanic.
    No problem, yes, you need to get same speed modules to utilise dual channel mode.
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    Answer ✓
    orvieto11 said:
    Please take a look at the following the Crucial scanned result page.

    Yeah, I noticed that too, finding 2133 MHz memory seems to be getting increasingly difficult in SODIMM format (laptop memory, and NUCs too I believe). On the other hand, I have yet to find a higher frequency memory kit that doesn't ship with 2133 MHz profiles to work at that speed.

    The main problem would be getting them both to work together without problems, even with memories that are the same there are sometimes problems. Which is why people go for pairs that are sold in kits. Have you considered buying another stick like the one you have right now? Being second hand doesn't imply it's used, for example when I got my machine first thing I did was upgrading the 8 GB I had installed for a stick of 16 GB, I sold the other module not as new, because it wasn't in its case and all, but as almost new.

    As for compatibility that's the second best option, the best being getting a kit that has 2x 8 GB modules (even if it's 2400 MHz like the one you have, it will work at 2133 just fine).

    And the third best is getting another stick that matches the timings of the one you have (CL15 at 2133 MHz, 15-15-15-35), but because it's hard to find you may need to seek the specificacions for each module and try to find the timings at 2133 MHz. Maybe even send an email to manufacturers on which one they would have at those frequencies explaining the case a bit.

    The problem with mismatched kits is that they may not work in tandem, or the system may refuse to even load. It's a tricky situation, many people will advise to only get matched pairs, but I've had success with mixed RAM. I tried looking for an off-the-shelf Kingston module that matches the one made for Acer you have installed, I think this one could be it: KVR24S17S8/8 but without actually putting it there it's impossible.

    You could try buying from a place that allows you to return it if it doesn't work properly like Amazon, and see how it goes. Personally, I'd look at the first option first, then getting that Kingston part (KVR24S17S8/8), then the second (although it's ideal, but it'd mean having to sell the module you have), lastly the third.

    When you get two sticks that work in dual mode the processor is able to access both modules simultaneously and getting you more bandwidth is awesome for database programs. DB servers have as many memory as they can do for caching as well, and they certainly work in quad channel (accessing 4 sticks at the same time).

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  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,590 Trailblazer
    Hi,
    Yes you can add a 16GB module but I think it's better to go for 2x8GB than adding 16GB to make 24GB total memory, you can also install a faster RAM stick but it will downclock to 2133MHz.
    https://uk.crucial.com/compatible-upgrade-for/acer/aspire-e5-774g
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=E_aPaj5QkmM&feature=emb_logo
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited July 2020 Answer ✓
    Yes, it's perfectly possible, you can go up to 32 GB max. probably, it'd depend on your processor.

    It could be tricky to match the 8 GB stick you have already installed, or it could be trivial. Sometimes it's hard to know which memory is compatible with which even if they share the same primary timings (or at least the CAS latency, that CL you see advertised), which may make the computer not even boot up.

    Unless one gets a matched set, those that are sold as a pack of 2, it's trial and error. I make it sound dreary but most of the time there's no problem getting a stick that's similar to the one that's already present.

    Run HWiNFO and post here the details of what you have installed and I'll try to give you more info (right click, open in a new tab to see it better):



    As for the RAM clock speed, it depends on the processor you have as well as the RAM type. In your case 2133 MHz means it's DDR4 and that's likely the max. frequency your processor supports. You can get memory that goes faster because it has profiles to run at lower frequencies, you won't be getting past 2133 MHz (it can still be useful if you find a cheaper 2400 MHz module for example that's compatible with the one you have).

    For example, mine is DDR4 2666 MHz, but in that screenshot you can see it has profiles for running at 2400, 2133 and 1866 MHz (the D from DDR stands for double).
  • orvieto11
    orvieto11 Member Posts: 12

    Tinkerer

    edited July 2020
    Thank you for your posts,
    OK I saw the YT clip, thank you! Although I won't play game on this Acer, it sounds like it's better to install another 8GB to make it dual channel. But does the installed and new memory's speed have to match to make it dual? Or as long as they are same size that's ok?
    Here is my info, please advise.



    Thank you guys, I meant to give both of you solved message, but sorry it only went to aphanic.
  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,590 Trailblazer
    Answer ✓
    orvieto11 said:
    Thank you for your posts,
    OK I saw the YT clip, thank you! Although I won't play game on this Acer, it sounds like it's better to install another 8GB to make it dual channel. But does the installed and new memory's speed have to match to make it dual? Or as long as they are same size that's ok?
    Here is my info, please advise.



    Thank you guys, I meant to give both of you solved message, but sorry it only went to aphanic.
    No problem, yes, you need to get same speed modules to utilise dual channel mode.
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    I see, the module you have is DDR4-2400, but since the processor only supports DDR4-2133 it will be running at that frequency. I've seen it before in some A515-54 (without the G), where they also memory of higher speeds in some units, likely because it was cheaper at the time of manufacturing (or they ran out of the other one).

    Since you only have one slot populated, you have two choices:
    • Buy a single stick, you'll be looking for DDR4-2133 CL15 (if more timings are specified it's 15-15-15-35 the one you have). I agree with @brummyfan2 regarding the capacity, getting another 8 GB stick instead of the 16 GB (I mean, do you think you'll be using more than 16? Go for more if you do of course). You could even find the exact same stick you have in eBay or similar websites and plug that in, look for ACR24D4S7S8MB-8 if you want to.

      Looking for something that matches at 2133 may be tricky because going for 2400 or higher lower level timings aren't advertised. You'd need to find someone around the web that had posted info on their stick and look for the timings at 2133 MHz (sometimes specified as 1066.7 MHz, half, like in your HWiNFO screenshot).

    • Buy a matched pair and replace the one you have with the both that come in the pair. Also DDR4-2133 but you'd not be looking at timings, because it's a matched pair already it's guaranteed to work when used together. These are some high performance kits:
      • Kingston HyperX: 16 GB (HX321LS11IB2K2/16)
      • Corsair Vengeance: 16 GB (CMSX16GX4M2A2400C16)
      • Crucial Ballistics: 16 GB (BL2K8G26C16S4B) (this one is at 2666 MHz, but has a profile for 2133).
    Getting one of those pairs may be an overkill if you aren't planning on gaming or doing anything memory intensive, you may be better off getting some value RAM that's also matched.
  • orvieto11
    orvieto11 Member Posts: 12

    Tinkerer

    Thank you again aphanic,
    Yes you are correct. I don't use it for a game, but engineering database program. When I use this program while talking with customer via Skype + browsing, etc., It gets choppy. So I was hoping an extra RAM might help a bit.

    Please take a look at the following the Crucial scanned result page.

    I prefer to buy just one 8GB, but I don't see any 2,133MHz modules. I'm confused that if I can just add one of these 2,400 or 2,666 8GB module.
    Or I have to buy 16GB kit (two paired 8GB - 2,400 or 2,666MHz)?

    You've been very nice thank you!!







  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    Answer ✓
    orvieto11 said:
    Please take a look at the following the Crucial scanned result page.

    Yeah, I noticed that too, finding 2133 MHz memory seems to be getting increasingly difficult in SODIMM format (laptop memory, and NUCs too I believe). On the other hand, I have yet to find a higher frequency memory kit that doesn't ship with 2133 MHz profiles to work at that speed.

    The main problem would be getting them both to work together without problems, even with memories that are the same there are sometimes problems. Which is why people go for pairs that are sold in kits. Have you considered buying another stick like the one you have right now? Being second hand doesn't imply it's used, for example when I got my machine first thing I did was upgrading the 8 GB I had installed for a stick of 16 GB, I sold the other module not as new, because it wasn't in its case and all, but as almost new.

    As for compatibility that's the second best option, the best being getting a kit that has 2x 8 GB modules (even if it's 2400 MHz like the one you have, it will work at 2133 just fine).

    And the third best is getting another stick that matches the timings of the one you have (CL15 at 2133 MHz, 15-15-15-35), but because it's hard to find you may need to seek the specificacions for each module and try to find the timings at 2133 MHz. Maybe even send an email to manufacturers on which one they would have at those frequencies explaining the case a bit.

    The problem with mismatched kits is that they may not work in tandem, or the system may refuse to even load. It's a tricky situation, many people will advise to only get matched pairs, but I've had success with mixed RAM. I tried looking for an off-the-shelf Kingston module that matches the one made for Acer you have installed, I think this one could be it: KVR24S17S8/8 but without actually putting it there it's impossible.

    You could try buying from a place that allows you to return it if it doesn't work properly like Amazon, and see how it goes. Personally, I'd look at the first option first, then getting that Kingston part (KVR24S17S8/8), then the second (although it's ideal, but it'd mean having to sell the module you have), lastly the third.

    When you get two sticks that work in dual mode the processor is able to access both modules simultaneously and getting you more bandwidth is awesome for database programs. DB servers have as many memory as they can do for caching as well, and they certainly work in quad channel (accessing 4 sticks at the same time).
  • orvieto11
    orvieto11 Member Posts: 12

    Tinkerer

    Thank you guys!
    I learned a lot about memory. I will probably buy paired 8GB x 2. I know this won't be Civic to Ferrari, but cannot to wait to feel something.

    Try to remember to report it here.
    Thank you again.