How to remove raid 0 on an acer predator G9-593?

philip616
philip616 Member Posts: 5 New User
My computer has two hard drives in raid 0: One 256gb SSD and a 1 TB HDD and they are in raid 0 which means i get better performance but less capacity and only one hard drive instead of two. And so it has been bothering me for awhile now and i want to change it. I tried many options like resetting my pc, going into bios and changing the raid option but acer has disabled that on their computers so i am left with no solution. Please help me i want to get rid of this raid 0 on my computer, i don't even care if it means resetting it again. Thank you for reading.

Answers

  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,078 Trailblazer
    edited October 2018
    hi,
    Do you have any important data in 1TB HDD? Do you have 2x128GB drives in RAID0?
  • philip616
    philip616 Member Posts: 5 New User
    edited October 2018
    No, the 1TB HDD is in raid 0 with my only 238GB SSD
  • philip616
    philip616 Member Posts: 5 New User
    That's what it is.
  • philip616
    philip616 Member Posts: 5 New User
    What if i don't have another pc to plus my HDD into and wipe it?

  • philip616
    philip616 Member Posts: 5 New User
    No but I can try to buy one somewhere since It doesn't ship to the Netherlands, so what do I do after i buy it then?

  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,078 Trailblazer
    Hi,
    You could backup the system in the external HDD using Macrium Reflect free program, also create a bootable USB disk with same program, then you can boot with the USB disk created, format the drives in the laptop and recover the  image you backed up in the external HDD, you don't need to change the SATA mode in BIOS, when you recover the image RAID will be broken and you can use the drives as individual drives.
    https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree
    https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW72/Creating+a+backup+image+of+your+computer,+drive+or+partitions
    https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/display/KNOW72/Creating+a+bootable+Windows+PE+USB+stick
  • penguinpal
    penguinpal Member Posts: 2 New User
    My friend made a raid0 with his 250GB SSD and his 1000GB HDD. I did mange to fix this, but it was tricky since windows 10 was installed on this raid0. None of the above mentioned methods worked. Firstly I tried pressing CTRL + I, but that didnt work on his Acer Predator and i tried a bunch of other stuff without any luck.

    The way I fixed the issue was to install windows 10 on an external HDD, ran the windows10 installation on his Acer predator, installed Intel Rapid Storage Manager and then I could remove/deactivate the raid from Intel Rapid Storage Manager.

    Steps are here:
    1. I used the program WintoUSB ( https://www.easyuefi.com/wintousb/ ) to create a 'portable windows 10' on my external usb 3.0 HDD. I tried with windows 7 first, but that didn't work for me (got a blue screen of death) FYI.
    2. The Acer Predator couldn't boot the windows installation (nothing happended). I changed the boot method to 'Legacy' in the BIOS and it booted! 
    3. I installed Intel Rapid Storage Manager ( https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/55005 )
    4. I opened the Intel Rapid Storage Manager and now I got the possibility to deactivate/remove the raid0 (so I did)!
    5. I made a bootable windows 10 USB and created the partitions through the windows installer and installed windows.
    6. I had to format the 1000 GB HDD my rightclicking on it in windows to use it.

    Hope it helps some of you. 


  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,257 Pathfinder
    edited February 2019
    Thats a good solution to fix the raid 0 but its just for ppl with minimum know how not everyone will be able to do it neither have an external hdd for it but hey its a solution what i recommend and already said in various threads its uninstall intel rst problem solved because raid 0 cannot be created on 2 drives on different size (it will only work with same size drives and preferably same brand/model) only the smaller size drive will be visible and the best easiest solution to fix it (and what acer repair will do if you send it back) its to format both drives loosing all data


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • iiobm127
    iiobm127 Member Posts: 1 New User
    xapim said:
    Thats a good solution to fix the raid 0 but its just for ppl with minimum know how not everyone will be able to do it neither have an external hdd for it but hey its a solution what i recommend and already said in various threads its uninstall intel rst problem solved because raid 0 cannot be created on 2 drives on different size (it will only work with same size drives and preferably same brand/model) only the smaller size drive will be visible and the best easiest solution to fix it (and what acer repair will do if you send it back) its to format both drives loosing all data
    Hey man, so your just saying if i delete intel rapid store technology it wont be in raid 0 anymore and thing will be back to normal ?
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,257 Pathfinder
    edited May 2019
    iiobm127 said:
    xapim said:
    Thats a good solution to fix the raid 0 but its just for ppl with minimum know how not everyone will be able to do it neither have an external hdd for it but hey its a solution what i recommend and already said in various threads its uninstall intel rst problem solved because raid 0 cannot be created on 2 drives on different size (it will only work with same size drives and preferably same brand/model) only the smaller size drive will be visible and the best easiest solution to fix it (and what acer repair will do if you send it back) its to format both drives loosing all data
    Hey man, so your just saying if i delete intel rapid store technology it wont be in raid 0 anymore and thing will be back to normal ?
    What i said was before the raid is created by the intel rst uninstall it to prevent that not after because after it wont do you any good and breaking the raid its tricky u might loose all your data doing it


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • pritesh123
    pritesh123 Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer

    My friend made a raid0 with his 250GB SSD and his 1000GB HDD. I did mange to fix this, but it was tricky since windows 10 was installed on this raid0. None of the above mentioned methods worked. Firstly I tried pressing CTRL + I, but that didnt work on his Acer Predator and i tried a bunch of other stuff without any luck.

    The way I fixed the issue was to install windows 10 on an external HDD, ran the windows10 installation on his Acer predator, installed Intel Rapid Storage Manager and then I could remove/deactivate the raid from Intel Rapid Storage Manager.

    Steps are here:
    1. I used the program WintoUSB ( https://www.easyuefi.com/wintousb/ ) to create a 'portable windows 10' on my external usb 3.0 HDD. I tried with windows 7 first, but that didn't work for me (got a blue screen of death) FYI.
    2. The Acer Predator couldn't boot the windows installation (nothing happended). I changed the boot method to 'Legacy' in the BIOS and it booted! 
    3. I installed Intel Rapid Storage Manager ( https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/55005 )
    4. I opened the Intel Rapid Storage Manager and now I got the possibility to deactivate/remove the raid0 (so I did)!
    5. I made a bootable windows 10 USB and created the partitions through the windows installer and installed windows.
    6. I had to format the 1000 GB HDD my rightclicking on it in windows to use it.

    Hope it helps some of you. 


    The only perfect guide !!!! Thanks mate!

  • HAL2020
    HAL2020 Member Posts: 8 New User
    Alright lads and lassies, you're all pretty...  ...Pretty smart and pretty funny at the same time.  There are legitamate reasons for RAID SSD.  Some of us work with video and 3d, requiring fast, large, replaceable space.  The faster the better.  Using RAID, applications run faster, they output data faster and a little extra storage space for some video work goes a long way.  That said, the INTEL drivers in these are awesome, but they have a few caveats.  If you're not doing video, a single NVME disk may work for you, but get an intel brand, or a compatible brand.  Check around google.

    The only proper way to work with the RAID storage is to go through the Intel Rapid Storage driver for your system.  Some of these come with an OPTANE chipset that will allow you to set up a RAID array from the bios, but many require you to work from outside the live system to set up or take down.  If you are in RAID 0 and want to move your data to one drive, the best and most secure way to do this is to block copy your whole disk array to a single location, then use a fix or recovery environment. This solution from above is awesome:
    Steps are here:
    1. I used the program WintoUSB ( https://www.easyuefi.com/wintousb/ ) to create a 'portable windows 10' on my external usb 3.0 HDD. I tried with windows 7 first, but that didn't work for me (got a blue screen of death) FYI.
    2. The Acer Predator couldn't boot the windows installation (nothing happended). I changed the boot method to 'Legacy' in the BIOS and it booted! 
    3. I installed Intel Rapid Storage Manager ( https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/55005 )
    4. I opened the Intel Rapid Storage Manager and now I got the possibility to deactivate/remove the raid0 (so I did)!
    5. I made a bootable windows 10 USB and created the partitions through the windows installer and installed windows.
    6. I had to format the 1000 GB HDD my rightclicking on it in windows to use it.

    But there are other ways.  I have used PARAGON software a long time.  They do okay when it comes to this.  You can copy an entire block array fairly quickly.  It has saved my bacon more than once. I've refreshed my system a few times, for speed, but when I go to a larger drive or need to move RAID to a single, I use Paragon to help.   Partition guru (diskgenius) works really well also, but it's more for the advanced user.  I've refreshed NVME systems twice.  The interface isn't up to par in this laptop, or the drives are janky, either way, I'm trying RAID with sata drives that are intel compatible.

    Personally, I like RAID 0 on Sata SSD, over the single NVME slot.  Its faster in seeable speed, rather than theoretical maximums.  Besides, the last 2 nvme drives I used flaked.  They end up unable to UPDATE WINDOWS.  NVME controller drivers or the ondisk controllers are not fully compatible with windows yet, at least not on my machine.  SO I'm stepping down to sata, and using RAID.  I will have backups of my own, so I'm not so afraid of this not working out.  I think I'll keep my old NMVE and system, just in case, but once I'm sure of my build, I'm wiping it and using it for fast video storage.