Ridiculously High Temps while Idle/ Doing Low Stress Work. G3-571

PyroZero
PyroZero Member Posts: 5

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edited November 2023 in 2018 Archives
I'm getting temperatures of 83-89 while idling with a few programs open, running about 20% of the CPU's base clock. I've used Intel Extreme Tuning to undervolt by -0.125 V and used ThrottleStop to prevent the turbo, as the temps go even higher while turboing. Fans are set to auto (which should normally be sufficient for running Discord and the League client). The temperatures affect both my CPU and GPU, and undervolting any further can cause me to crash during games. 
On another, but similar note, running what would be considered older games and not particularly intensive, my laptop still struggles despite maxing these very loud fans. League of Legends hovers a consistent 90+ and anything short of maxed fans will cause it to throttle and drop in frames. Age Of Empires 3, made in ~2010 cannot be run on Auto Fan settings as the whole system will crash once at the 97-100C mark. Maxing fans will help keep it to the 97-98 range.
I find that disabling the turbo clock helps keep frames consistent in games but severely limits my options and makes running things like Ring of Elysium (at low settings for everything) or any game more intensive than LoL impossible.
I have not repasted my laptop. 
I also have a strange issue where I'll get thermal throttling and frame drops while at 70C, with maxed fans and IET open. No solution found online.
Thanks, Pyro

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  • PredatorPreys13
    PredatorPreys13 Member Posts: 6

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    PyroZero said:
    I'm getting temperatures of 83-89 while idling with a few programs open, running about 20% of the CPU's base clock. I've used Intel Extreme Tuning to undervolt by -0.125 V and used ThrottleStop to prevent the turbo, as the temps go even higher while turboing. Fans are set to auto (which should normally be sufficient for running Discord and the League client). The temperatures affect both my CPU and GPU, and undervolting any further can cause me to crash during games. 
    On another, but similar note, running what would be considered older games and not particularly intensive, my laptop still struggles despite maxing these very loud fans. League of Legends hovers a consistent 90+ and anything short of maxed fans will cause it to throttle and drop in frames. Age Of Empires 3, made in ~2010 cannot be run on Auto Fan settings as the whole system will crash once at the 97-100C mark. Maxing fans will help keep it to the 97-98 range.
    I find that disabling the turbo clock helps keep frames consistent in games but severely limits my options and makes running things like Ring of Elysium (at low settings for everything) or any game more intensive than LoL impossible.
    I have not repasted my laptop. 
    I also have a strange issue where I'll get thermal throttling and frame drops while at 70C, with maxed fans and IET open. No solution found online.
    Thanks, Pyro
    Bro i think there is something really wrong with your system. Have you checked for dust clogged in the vents? Have you try other softwares like using Throttlestop and XTU at the same time because together they dont go so well. Also are you using this laptop on a hard surface?
    If there's anything you can do from above, then do it. Probably remove xtu completely and go for throttlestop also.
    also follow this guide its really a great work by Hotel Hero.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTPMwQKlfPE
    Then please post what happens after you try these.
    Good Luck  =)
  • PyroZero
    PyroZero Member Posts: 5

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    PredatorPreys13 said:
    PyroZero said:
    I'm getting temperatures of 83-89 while idling with a few programs open, running about 20% of the CPU's base clock. I've used Intel Extreme Tuning to undervolt by -0.125 V and used ThrottleStop to prevent the turbo, as the temps go even higher while turboing. Fans are set to auto (which should normally be sufficient for running Discord and the League client). The temperatures affect both my CPU and GPU, and undervolting any further can cause me to crash during games. 
    On another, but similar note, running what would be considered older games and not particularly intensive, my laptop still struggles despite maxing these very loud fans. League of Legends hovers a consistent 90+ and anything short of maxed fans will cause it to throttle and drop in frames. Age Of Empires 3, made in ~2010 cannot be run on Auto Fan settings as the whole system will crash once at the 97-100C mark. Maxing fans will help keep it to the 97-98 range.
    I find that disabling the turbo clock helps keep frames consistent in games but severely limits my options and makes running things like Ring of Elysium (at low settings for everything) or any game more intensive than LoL impossible.
    I have not repasted my laptop. 
    I also have a strange issue where I'll get thermal throttling and frame drops while at 70C, with maxed fans and IET open. No solution found online.
    Thanks, Pyro
    Bro i think there is something really wrong with your system. Have you checked for dust clogged in the vents? Have you try other softwares like using Throttlestop and XTU at the same time because together they dont go so well. Also are you using this laptop on a hard surface?
    If there's anything you can do from above, then do it. Probably remove xtu completely and go for throttlestop also.
    also follow this guide its really a great work by Hotel Hero.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTPMwQKlfPE
    Then please post what happens after you try these.
    Good Luck  =)
    Vents are free of dust, and I'm using on a normal desk with plenty of airflow. I've been desperate enough to sometimes prop up the laptop just to expose the vents to more air. I've tried using both exclusively and also MSI Afterburner. The video is a nice guide and would help with optimisation, but I usually have Task Manager open anyway, and limit the number of processes and kill unnecessary ones. 
  • sri369
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    Try disabling services like search and prefetch. It might be a better idea to disable services than force closing in task manager (this only kills the front end app, but not the background service in most cases).
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  • PredatorPreys13
    PredatorPreys13 Member Posts: 6

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    PyroZero said:
    PredatorPreys13 said:
    PyroZero said:
    I'm getting temperatures of 83-89 while idling with a few programs open, running about 20% of the CPU's base clock. I've used Intel Extreme Tuning to undervolt by -0.125 V and used ThrottleStop to prevent the turbo, as the temps go even higher while turboing. Fans are set to auto (which should normally be sufficient for running Discord and the League client). The temperatures affect both my CPU and GPU, and undervolting any further can cause me to crash during games. 
    On another, but similar note, running what would be considered older games and not particularly intensive, my laptop still struggles despite maxing these very loud fans. League of Legends hovers a consistent 90+ and anything short of maxed fans will cause it to throttle and drop in frames. Age Of Empires 3, made in ~2010 cannot be run on Auto Fan settings as the whole system will crash once at the 97-100C mark. Maxing fans will help keep it to the 97-98 range.
    I find that disabling the turbo clock helps keep frames consistent in games but severely limits my options and makes running things like Ring of Elysium (at low settings for everything) or any game more intensive than LoL impossible.
    I have not repasted my laptop. 
    I also have a strange issue where I'll get thermal throttling and frame drops while at 70C, with maxed fans and IET open. No solution found online.
    Thanks, Pyro
    Bro i think there is something really wrong with your system. Have you checked for dust clogged in the vents? Have you try other softwares like using Throttlestop and XTU at the same time because together they dont go so well. Also are you using this laptop on a hard surface?
    If there's anything you can do from above, then do it. Probably remove xtu completely and go for throttlestop also.
    also follow this guide its really a great work by Hotel Hero.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTPMwQKlfPE
    Then please post what happens after you try these.
    Good Luck  =)
    Vents are free of dust, and I'm using on a normal desk with plenty of airflow. I've been desperate enough to sometimes prop up the laptop just to expose the vents to more air. I've tried using both exclusively and also MSI Afterburner. The video is a nice guide and would help with optimisation, but I usually have Task Manager open anyway, and limit the number of processes and kill unnecessary ones. 
    Our friend sri369 is right. End the unwanted services directly by disabling them from services otherwise it keeps running even after you stop it from task manager.
    Coming to using afterburner and other tools it's strange that your laptop is not giving adequate cooling still. I'd recommend you to go check at the service centre once. Maybe there's something wrong from the inside. Maybe issues in heat pipes or something because as you said high temps during age of empires 3 something so old it's quite a problem.
  • PyroZero
    PyroZero Member Posts: 5

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    sri369 said:
    Try disabling services like search and prefetch. It might be a better idea to disable services than force closing in task manager (this only kills the front end app, but not the background service in most cases).
    Just went ahead and did all of that, and had better temps at idle. However, I've just had my first ever crash on LoL, with the fans auto at 4900 RPM (basically maxed) and capping at 98C upon rebooting. Running with "optimised" settings based on GeForce and nothing in the background.

    I've never had issues with LoL up until now, mainly because it's a very light game.

    For clarity: I had no frame drops or thermal throttling before the crash. Laptop went from 0 to 100 and instantly died.

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