Windows 10 Enterprise install on a G9-793-79V5

Granite1
Granite1 Member Posts: 11

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edited November 2023 in 2018 Archives
Just got this beast and its awesome, but I need to install 10 Enterprise for work.

Will I lose the ability to back light the keyboard?

There has to be a way to get this to work with a clean install. If not Acer is slightly brain dead

Wait, can I upgrade the existing home install to an Enterprise install and retain the Acer *****?

I'm going to go research and see. I have a full 10 Enterprise ISO with key so hopefully I can just upgrade. If I can I'll image this original factory install and keep it in a safe place for a rainy day.

Any help would be appreciated folks.  :)

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  • Queen6
    Queen6 Member Posts: 319 Skilled Practitioner WiFi Icon
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    First create a recovery drive, important as if you do want to roll back later you will likely need to pay Acer for send one.  Personally I would use the W10 key and upgrade as Acer uses a modified version of W10.  Doing a clean install may just give you problems to resolve that are not straight forward, due to Acers implementation of W10.   If you look on the forum you will find many posts where users have incurred issue by doing a clean install and PredatorSense being rendered non-functional.

    There's not much bloat on the Predators, so upgrading makes sense.  I removed the trivial App's that I didn't want with my Predator 17 being 100% stable regardless of workflow & workload.  I would also create a system image with the Windows 7 tool (Settings - Backup).  I bought one of these big beasts for work purpose and it's been one of the best notebook I've ever owned; powerful, quiet, scalable, crushes everything and a pleasure to use.

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  • Queen6
    Queen6 Member Posts: 319 Skilled Practitioner WiFi Icon
    Answer ✓
    First create a recovery drive, important as if you do want to roll back later you will likely need to pay Acer for send one.  Personally I would use the W10 key and upgrade as Acer uses a modified version of W10.  Doing a clean install may just give you problems to resolve that are not straight forward, due to Acers implementation of W10.   If you look on the forum you will find many posts where users have incurred issue by doing a clean install and PredatorSense being rendered non-functional.

    There's not much bloat on the Predators, so upgrading makes sense.  I removed the trivial App's that I didn't want with my Predator 17 being 100% stable regardless of workflow & workload.  I would also create a system image with the Windows 7 tool (Settings - Backup).  I bought one of these big beasts for work purpose and it's been one of the best notebook I've ever owned; powerful, quiet, scalable, crushes everything and a pleasure to use.

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  • Granite1
    Granite1 Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer

    Queen6 said:
    First create a recovery drive, important as if you do want to roll back later you will likely need to pay Acer for send one.  Personally I would use the W10 key and upgrade as Acer uses a modified version of W10.  Doing a clean install may just give you problems to resolve that are not straight forward, due to Acers implementation of W10.   If you look on the forum you will find many posts where users have incurred issue by doing a clean install and PredatorSense being rendered non-functional.

    There's not much bloat on the Predators, so upgrading makes sense.  I removed the trivial App's that I didn't want with my Predator 17 being 100% stable regardless of workflow & workload.  I would also create a system image with the Windows 7 tool (Settings - Backup).  I bought one of these big beasts for work purpose and it's been one of the best notebook I've ever owned; powerful, quiet, scalable, crushes everything and a pleasure to use.

    Q-6
    10-4, thanks for the response. :)

    I've spent the entire day researching and making backups. I've got a 100% image backup of the shipped 10 Home Acer sent with the laptop. I'm going to give it a shot doing a clean install of 10 Enterprise and see where I end up. If I can't get everything working the way I want, I'll restore the Acer image, no harm no foul.

    I can't upgrade directly from 10 Home to Enterprise, I'll need to upgrade to 10 Pro first, then upgrade to 10 Enterprise. I'd rather not spend the extra $100 just to skip 10 Pro. I've found a few work arounds for getting Predator Sense working on a fresh install, as that's the only thing I really want anyway. The rest of the junk I can do without. I need the Enterprise tools for work, home doesn't have the Group Policy editor along with the other corporate tools we need.

    I'll keep messing around regardless, that's why we get these things right! :p

    I agree, this thing is a powerhouse, ran Wolfenstein II The New Colossus this afternoon and it was flawless!! My old GT650m was on low settings....all of them, barely playable. I'm afraid to try Fortnite, god only knows what it'll do to my marriage....

    Thanks again!!
  • Granite1
    Granite1 Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer

    edited May 2018
    Queen6 said:
    First create a recovery drive, important as if you do want to roll back later you will likely need to pay Acer for send one.  Personally I would use the W10 key and upgrade as Acer uses a modified version of W10.  Doing a clean install may just give you problems to resolve that are not straight forward, due to Acers implementation of W10.   If you look on the forum you will find many posts where users have incurred issue by doing a clean install and PredatorSense being rendered non-functional.

    There's not much bloat on the Predators, so upgrading makes sense.  I removed the trivial App's that I didn't want with my Predator 17 being 100% stable regardless of workflow & workload.  I would also create a system image with the Windows 7 tool (Settings - Backup).  I bought one of these big beasts for work purpose and it's been one of the best notebook I've ever owned; powerful, quiet, scalable, crushes everything and a pleasure to use.

    Q-6
    I figured I'd better respond with my results so others can benefit.

    I MADE A 100% BIT FOR BIT IMAGE OF MY ENTIRE OS PRIOR TO DOING ANYTHING!!  Remember this is critical before you play around with these things, in case you break something you can always restore that image. :)

    Honestly It wasn't as difficult as I've read. I loaded 10 Enterprise with my key, and just kept updating until it was done. Then loaded all of the appropriate drivers from the Acer support page for my rig. Predator Sense and Quick Access apps installed fine and worked without any issues. I didn't need to tweak anything, just worked right out of the box.

    I'll run Windows update again after I get all of my drivers loaded and see if it changes anything I updated.

    Easy Peasy. :p


  • Queen6
    Queen6 Member Posts: 319 Skilled Practitioner WiFi Icon
    Granite1 said:
    Queen6 said:
    First create a recovery drive, important as if you do want to roll back later you will likely need to pay Acer for send one.  Personally I would use the W10 key and upgrade as Acer uses a modified version of W10.  Doing a clean install may just give you problems to resolve that are not straight forward, due to Acers implementation of W10.   If you look on the forum you will find many posts where users have incurred issue by doing a clean install and PredatorSense being rendered non-functional.

    There's not much bloat on the Predators, so upgrading makes sense.  I removed the trivial App's that I didn't want with my Predator 17 being 100% stable regardless of workflow & workload.  I would also create a system image with the Windows 7 tool (Settings - Backup).  I bought one of these big beasts for work purpose and it's been one of the best notebook I've ever owned; powerful, quiet, scalable, crushes everything and a pleasure to use.

    Q-6
    I figured I'd better respond with my results so others can benefit.

    I MADE A 100% BIT FOR BIT IMAGE OF MY ENTIRE OS PRIOR TO DOING ANYTHING!!  Remember this is critical before you play around with these things, in case you break something you can always restore that image. :)

    Honestly It wasn't as difficult as I've read. I loaded 10 Enterprise with my key, and just kept updating until it was done. Then loaded all of the appropriate drivers from the Acer support page for my rig. Predator Sense and Quick Access apps installed fine and worked without any issues. I didn't need to tweak anything, just worked right out of the box.

    I'll run Windows update again after I get all of my drivers loaded and see if it changes anything I updated.

    Easy Peasy. :p


    Good to hear you got it up and running, others seem to have ran into issues, equally helps if you know what your doing :) I work in isolation so don't have need for the Enterprise edition, well at least not yet. 

    I don't play games frequently as I bought the Predator 17 for work purpose, however when I do game it never misses a beat with everything set to the highest settings.  I did undervolt the CPU, as running cooler is always better, even with Prime95 Small FFT the system remains composed.


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  • Granite1
    Granite1 Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer

    Queen6 said:
    Granite1 said:
    Queen6 said:
    First create a recovery drive, important as if you do want to roll back later you will likely need to pay Acer for send one.  Personally I would use the W10 key and upgrade as Acer uses a modified version of W10.  Doing a clean install may just give you problems to resolve that are not straight forward, due to Acers implementation of W10.   If you look on the forum you will find many posts where users have incurred issue by doing a clean install and PredatorSense being rendered non-functional.

    There's not much bloat on the Predators, so upgrading makes sense.  I removed the trivial App's that I didn't want with my Predator 17 being 100% stable regardless of workflow & workload.  I would also create a system image with the Windows 7 tool (Settings - Backup).  I bought one of these big beasts for work purpose and it's been one of the best notebook I've ever owned; powerful, quiet, scalable, crushes everything and a pleasure to use.

    Q-6
    I figured I'd better respond with my results so others can benefit.

    I MADE A 100% BIT FOR BIT IMAGE OF MY ENTIRE OS PRIOR TO DOING ANYTHING!!  Remember this is critical before you play around with these things, in case you break something you can always restore that image. :)

    Honestly It wasn't as difficult as I've read. I loaded 10 Enterprise with my key, and just kept updating until it was done. Then loaded all of the appropriate drivers from the Acer support page for my rig. Predator Sense and Quick Access apps installed fine and worked without any issues. I didn't need to tweak anything, just worked right out of the box.

    I'll run Windows update again after I get all of my drivers loaded and see if it changes anything I updated.

    Easy Peasy. :p


    Good to hear you got it up and running, others seem to have ran into issues, equally helps if you know what your doing :) I work in isolation so don't have need for the Enterprise edition, well at least not yet. 

    I don't play games frequently as I bought the Predator 17 for work purpose, however when I do game it never misses a beat with everything set to the highest settings.  I did undervolt the CPU, as running cooler is always better, even with Prime95 Small FFT the system remains composed.


    Q-6
    Holy *****, that is holding up really well under Prime 95. If thats all the higher you're going you won't have issues while gaming.

    I built a custom cooling stand for my old HP that I modified for the Predator, thing really does a good job. I'll post up pictures sometime.

    I work with Active Directory and Group Policy editor all the time, also I need the Azure tools that Home doesn't have. I'm totally not in Isolation so having the added tools helps.Having an idea what you're doing makes a very big difference. I was all bugged out over UEFI and the SSD's since all my systems are legacy machines. I didn't know what to expect, lol.

    Thanks again!


  • Queen6
    Queen6 Member Posts: 319 Skilled Practitioner WiFi Icon
    Granite1 said:
    Queen6 said:
    Granite1 said:
    Queen6 said:
    First create a recovery drive, important as if you do want to roll back later you will likely need to pay Acer for send one.  Personally I would use the W10 key and upgrade as Acer uses a modified version of W10.  Doing a clean install may just give you problems to resolve that are not straight forward, due to Acers implementation of W10.   If you look on the forum you will find many posts where users have incurred issue by doing a clean install and PredatorSense being rendered non-functional.

    There's not much bloat on the Predators, so upgrading makes sense.  I removed the trivial App's that I didn't want with my Predator 17 being 100% stable regardless of workflow & workload.  I would also create a system image with the Windows 7 tool (Settings - Backup).  I bought one of these big beasts for work purpose and it's been one of the best notebook I've ever owned; powerful, quiet, scalable, crushes everything and a pleasure to use.

    Q-6
    I figured I'd better respond with my results so others can benefit.

    I MADE A 100% BIT FOR BIT IMAGE OF MY ENTIRE OS PRIOR TO DOING ANYTHING!!  Remember this is critical before you play around with these things, in case you break something you can always restore that image. :)

    Honestly It wasn't as difficult as I've read. I loaded 10 Enterprise with my key, and just kept updating until it was done. Then loaded all of the appropriate drivers from the Acer support page for my rig. Predator Sense and Quick Access apps installed fine and worked without any issues. I didn't need to tweak anything, just worked right out of the box.

    I'll run Windows update again after I get all of my drivers loaded and see if it changes anything I updated.

    Easy Peasy. :p


    Good to hear you got it up and running, others seem to have ran into issues, equally helps if you know what your doing :) I work in isolation so don't have need for the Enterprise edition, well at least not yet. 

    I don't play games frequently as I bought the Predator 17 for work purpose, however when I do game it never misses a beat with everything set to the highest settings.  I did undervolt the CPU, as running cooler is always better, even with Prime95 Small FFT the system remains composed.


    Q-6
    Holy *****, that is holding up really well under Prime 95. If thats all the higher you're going you won't have issues while gaming.

    I built a custom cooling stand for my old HP that I modified for the Predator, thing really does a good job. I'll post up pictures sometime.

    I work with Active Directory and Group Policy editor all the time, also I need the Azure tools that Home doesn't have. I'm totally not in Isolation so having the added tools helps.Having an idea what you're doing makes a very big difference. I was all bugged out over UEFI and the SSD's since all my systems are legacy machines. I didn't know what to expect, lol.

    Thanks again!



    Yeah it's real solid, pretty much can only replace the TIM now, however don't see any need real need as of yet.  Likely I'll replace the TIM when the cooling system needs cleaning or the temps raise.  I'll research a paste/grease that's best for notebooks as mine is on move, want ensure no migration occurs.  Have considered doing a 100% load test on CPU & GPU simultaneously although not terribly representative of real world use.  As long as the notebook can maintain cooling to 85C or less under normal use it's good enough.

    Had a shot of Witcher 3 yesterday temps were great with max settings locked to 60 FPS, only thing I noticed was the GPU was pulling over 125W, with the GPU still on normal, then again Witcher 3 on Max =)

    I'm a quality engineer in the energy industry, contracting directly to the clients. So my notebooks travel with me globally and due to the sensitivity of the data rarely if ever networked.  I don't game greatly on the Predator, equally as a work tool it's phenomenal barring the obvious form factor.

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