Upgrade Triton 700 1060 screen to 120hz?

Hurcano
Hurcano Member Posts: 2 New User
edited November 2023 in 2018 Archives
I am planning on purchasing the 1060 model of the Triton 700 but the lack of 120hz screen is a deal breaker for me. I know from a recent review on the 1060 model that it is possible to swap the screen from the 1060 model (B156HAN06.0) to the 1080 model (B156HAN04.2) however I am concerned about loss of functionality (outside of losing G-Sync). In said review the author described the inability to adjust the screen brightness after performing the swap but attributed it to the specific screen that he sourced as opposed to the compatibility itself. My reasons for wanting to do this are that I don't really NEED a 1080 and would rather trade better battery life, cooler overall temps, and slightly lower cost (even after the swap) for the extra power and G-Sync as long as there aren't any limitations in the system that prevent it from being feasible. Any help would be much appreciated!

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  • ven98
    ven98 ACE Posts: 4,073 Pathfinder
    The display that is inside the gtx1060 variant doesn't support G-sync and this variant has nvidia optimus(uses both intel and nvidia graphics). You can't have nvidia optimus and g-sync at the same time. To have g-sync the edp port needs to be connected directly to the nvidia gpu, so when you install the display to be directly connected to the nvidia, hence the G-sync laptops can't use intel hd graphics and have poor battery life. Even if you swap the display with the B156HAN04.2, g-sync will be unavailable, because the intel graphics is selected as primary and the video outputs from the nvidia gpu go through the intel and then sent to the display. The intel gpu doesn't support g-sync or similar technology, that is why you can't have variable refresh rate even if the internal display supports it.

    You can only have G-sync on external displays via the displayport port.
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  • Hurcano
    Hurcano Member Posts: 2 New User
    Thanks for the reply but I probably probably should have been more clear on what my goal was. I understand that g-sync would not work with the swap and was only interested in gaining the 120hz refresh rate but was concerned whether there would be any other issues that would occur (e.g. inability to adjust screen brightness). I would actually rather have Optimus for the extended battery life when not utilizing the GPU during low demand usage. Anyways, after sleeping on it I went with the 1080 model anyways due to the higher quality SSDs, 120hz screen, and most of all not having to dissect it and voiding the warranty. I'll live with the shorter battery life. 

    Ideally, Acer would give us some more options on the basic things (storage, screen, RAM) on high-end laptops running well over $2k but nonetheless, I am excited to get my beast of a machine and experience all that it has to offer.
  • ven98
    ven98 ACE Posts: 4,073 Pathfinder
    Unfortunately there is no way to tell what issues the screen swap may cause and if it will cause any issues at all, unless you try and see yourself. You have seen on a review that installing the 120Hz panel prevents you from changing the brightness, so it is very likely that it will be the same case with the other tritons 700 as well. You have decided to go with the 1080 model, which is a good choice. Hope you enjoy your new machine.
    Always post the following characterisitcs of the device:
    -Model number
    -Part number(not required, but helpful)
    -CPU
    -GPU
    -Operating system

    Helios 300 and Nitro 5 users DO NOT update the BIOS to version 1.22 if you don't want the keyboard's backlight to turn off after 30 seconds even when the device is plugged in.


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  • ven98
    ven98 ACE Posts: 4,073 Pathfinder
    Unfortunately there is no way to tell what issues the screen swap may cause and if it will cause any issues at all, unless you try and see yourself. You have seen on a review that installing the 120Hz panel prevents you from changing the brightness, so it is very likely that it will be the same case with the other tritons 700 as well. You have decided to go with the 1080 model, which is a good choice. Hope you enjoy your new machine.
    Always post the following characterisitcs of the device:
    -Model number
    -Part number(not required, but helpful)
    -CPU
    -GPU
    -Operating system

    Helios 300 and Nitro 5 users DO NOT update the BIOS to version 1.22 if you don't want the keyboard's backlight to turn off after 30 seconds even when the device is plugged in.


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    Click on 'Yes' if the comment answers your question!

  • Broko
    Broko Member Posts: 18 Troubleshooter
    I don't believe you will get a HUGE gain in lower temps by going for the 1060, plus all that trouble of replacing the screen, voiding warranty, and even risking losing partial/full functionality.

    The 1080 model doesn't run *that* hot in comparison to a normal 1060 for a laptop. 1060 max-q will probably have lower temps at max load, but at the same time it would be really worse performance-wise.

    You can limit the performance of the 1080 in various ways, while still having the potential of OCing it and using it fully. It suits a laptop of such caliber much better. 

    I wish there was a version with a normal 1070 instead of the 1080 max-q. That would have been a much better trade-off in terms of price and performance, but they knew it and used the 1080 instead as it is much more expensive. 

    Still, I like having a 1080 in this machine and definitely like the potential of it.

    The better solution to heat problems would be for Acer to have applied a manual factory undervolt of both CPU and GPU, a careful and proper application of the best thermal paste out there, or even some form of secured application of liquid metal as thermal conductor, as long as it is 100% safe for the machine. 

    I already gained -10C to -15C decrease in temps by undervolting the CPU (it has been stable on -140mV on cores and cache while playing games for long). I am having some issues undervolting the GPU, though. 

    Many things could have been done better for the cooling, but gladly almost all of them could also be done by the user after-the-fact. Better to risk your warranty by re-pasting with the best material possible on the 1080 model, then just do a manual undervolt on the CPU and enjoy impressively low temps at high load.

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