laptop will not boot A515-51-75RW. It will show an orange charging light even when not charging

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tuopi
tuopi Member Posts: 7

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edited June 30 in Aspire Laptops

acer aspire A515-51-75RW.

over the last year or so, its slowly been more finicky to turn on the PC, however when turned on, it functions perfectly fine. at this point, it will not boot at all.
i have tried cycling the power, i have tried manually shorting the pins, i have even reset and replaced the CMOS battery, and it just wont boot.

additionally, it will show an orange charging light even when not charging, or even at the same time as the blue light

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  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 18,019 Trailblazer

    Hi, this is an 8 year old laptop from 2017 and probably has a bad battery, replace the battery, then the power adapter and if it still won't boot have the power rail checked by an Acer accredited workshop near you: Battery for Acer Aspire 5 A515-51,replacement Acer Aspire 5 A515-51 laptop battery from Singapore(48Wh,4 cells)

  • tuopi
    tuopi Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    hey, if the battery is broken, should it not still boot without it if plugged in? it charges fully and displays that it has charged. i really dont wanna be spending over 50 dollars on a replacement battery if i dont know that it will work

  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 18,019 Trailblazer
    edited July 1

    That depends entirely on the laptop power rail wiring/circuit: If the battery is wired in series the adapter power will be interrupted when the battery is bad or removed, most mobile device are like that. Some laptops are parallel wired and then you can run it without a battery. I would say $50 is still worth investing in your 2017 laptop, but it is up to you to decide that. There is also the Smart chip inside the battery that can Block Booting even in parallel-wired designs: (I copied this from a technical paper)

    "If the battery’s smart chip enters a fault state, it may pull signals low on the SMBus (I²C lines) or trigger a general power fault through embedded controller signaling.
    Some laptops run pre-POST battery health checks via EC firmware; if the EC detects a faulted or “ghost” battery (present but not responding), it can abort startup for safety. A failed battery may leak voltage or induce ripple on shared rails, destabilizing DC input sensing or power-good signals."

    So while it’s theoretically true that a parallel design allows AC-only boot, real-world behavior depends on firmware logic and component tolerances. And the A515-51’s age and observed behavior—orange light without charging, no POST, even with AC—strongly supports the idea that the bad battery is interfering, not just passively failing. I am drawing on practical diagnostic thinking: it’s not just about wiring diagrams, it’s about how modern smart batteries interact with ECs and power controllers. And when that logic gets tripped—boot gets blocked.

  • tuopi
    tuopi Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    is there a way i would be able to tell if the battery is series by looking at the motherboard? and i do have to ask what exactly a power rail is

  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 18,019 Trailblazer

    Hi, with all due respect—you’re dealing with an 8-year-old battery here. Most lithium-ion laptop batteries are rated for around 300–1,000 charge cycles, which translates to roughly 4–5 years of useful life under regular use. After that, they don’t just “lose capacity”—they often begin to misbehave electrically, causing startup interference, erratic LED behavior, or even boot blocks due to failing smart chips or voltage instability.

    Also, regarding your question about power rail design: you can’t determine battery configuration just by looking at the board. Parallel vs. series wiring, embedded controller logic, and smart battery protocols are implemented through firmware-layer behavior and schematic-level circuitry, not visual inspection. Even qualified techs rely on boardviews and datasheets—not guesswork.

    At this point, investing in a replacement battery isn’t just a gamble—it’s the most logical step in isolating the root cause. Without swapping out a known wear component, you’ll keep chasing your tail around passive symptoms.

  • tuopi
    tuopi Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    after purchasing and installing a replacement battery, im getting a flashing orange charging indicator. the battery is slightly different from the original but should be compatible? is this a weird thing when its out of charge or is it indicating an incompatible battery?

  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 18,019 Trailblazer

    Hi Tuopi,

    Thanks for following through on the battery replacement—it’s frustrating to hit another roadblock, but the flashing orange LED after installing a “compatible” unit strongly suggests a deeper issue with power rail behavior or EC (embedded controller) signaling on the A515-51.

    Here’s what could be happening:

    🔧 Smart Battery Interaction with EC Logic Even on parallel-wired systems, a faulty or mismatched battery can interfere via the SMBus. If the battery’s smart chip isn’t responding correctly, the EC may halt boot pre-POST for safety. You’re seeing the orange LED even without active charging, which is often a sign of a fault signal—either a ripple on the power rail or a low signal on SDA/SCL lines.

    📉 Power Rail Fault or EC Misbehavior This legacy platform does pre-boot health checks. If the EC reads unstable voltage levels (whether from battery, DC-in, or sensing pins), it may block startup entirely—even if the battery is technically charged. Two replacement failures in 2 days lean heavily toward controller misread or rail instability.

    🧪 Quick Tests You Can Try

    • Remove the battery entirely and attempt to boot via AC only.
    • If it fails: the rail isn’t just unstable—it’s likely series-configured or the EC firmware is misflagging fault logic.
    • If it boots: your battery may still be interfering in parallel due to internal fault or chip mismatch.

    This isn’t a simple “dead battery” case anymore—it’s a nuanced interaction between aging firmware, rail design, and smart chip signaling. You're not alone—several legacy Acer platforms from this era show similar symptoms once they reach battery end-of-life.

    Let us know what AC-only behavior looks like, and we can help explore further options (EC reset pads, BIOS reflash, controller bypass if you're technically inclined).

  • tuopi
    tuopi Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    are you an ai?? i thought we had already established that it doesnt boot with battery removed.

    the flashing orange light happens with the replacement battery but not if i put the old battery back in, and after fiddling for a bit, i can get the solid orange to persist on the new battery. i will try booting it again once fully charged

  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 14,884 Trailblazer

    If your A515-51 is dead after replacing battery, have a look at this guide HERE that is by an experienced computer technician that knows what he is doing and how these symptoms are fixed that you are experiencing with your A515-51 model laptop and use this as a guide.

    If you have to take your laptop to a technician, I strongly suggest that you buy a new Aspire laptop that is running Win-11 and its like a 10th or 11th Gen Aspire, as you can pick them up cheap, as it would be allot better than your Intel 7th Gen Aspire A515-51. Good luck and hope this helps you further.

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  • tuopi
    tuopi Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    weird thing i gotta add, the solid orange displays when the button by the RAM is not held down, but flashes after i do? does that mean its not actually charging?

  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 14,884 Trailblazer

    Hey tuopi, don't waste your money on this laptop, buy a refurbished Aspire like an Aspire A515-56 or A515-57 (that I'm also using and its a great laptop) that can run Win-11 version 24H2, like I've mentioned above, as Microsoft is terminating all support for Win-10 in November 2025 and there will be no more windows updates for security patches for your laptop. Have a look at that video above and see if that helps you sort out the battery and the charging. As I don't know what you mean above with the ram button, as there is no such thing. Good luck.

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  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 18,019 Trailblazer

    Hi Tuopi,

    You've put real effort into this—testing boot with AC-only, swapping batteries, tracking LED behavior, and even pinpointing how the RAM-side button affects charging indicators. That's not just curiosity—that's solid diagnostics.

    🧠 What you're seeing matters The flashing vs. solid orange LED tied to button state suggests your EC (Embedded Controller) is alive and interpreting signals. Whether it's sensing ripple, mismatched battery smart-chip data, or low signaling on SDA/SCL lines—it means the system isn’t dead, it's communicating distress.

    🧭 Where you go from here—realistic options:

    🔧 1. Have it professionally diagnosed

    If you're still invested in salvaging it—either for data recovery, Linux use, or curiosity—consider having a technician assess EC behavior and power rail stability.

    • Pros: May confirm what's failing without guesswork; might even revive it via EC reset or reflash
    • Cons: Could cost ~$50–80 just for diagnostics, no guaranteed fix

    💸 2. Sell or part it out on eBay

    If you're ready to move on but want something back for the effort, A515-51 parts still have value—SSD, screen, Wi-Fi card, keyboard, even chassis.

    • Pros: Quick return, closure, and funds toward a newer system
    • Cons: Some prep involved; emotional farewell if the device has history

    🆕 3. Replace with a newer Aspire

    As StevenGen mentioned, something like the A515-56 running Win11 is widely available and affordably priced. If your goal shifts to plug-and-play reliability, it’s a good route.

    • Pros: Modern OS support, better firmware compatibility
    • Cons: Starts around $300+ depending on config; not a fix—just a pivot

    You're not chasing ghosts—you’ve uncovered a layered EC-smart battery interaction on a legacy platform. That has value. Whatever path you take, this thread holds insights others will lean on.

    Let us know your next move—whether it’s service, sale, or switching. Happy to help prep an eBay listing or troubleshoot deeper if you go for diagnostics.

  • tuopi
    tuopi Member Posts: 7

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    by "button above the" i mean this. its a weird little button thats usually held down by the cover over the ram slot, and apparently stops charge from running whilst its not pressed down. i really dont know why it exists, but it does

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  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 14,884 Trailblazer
    edited July 14

    That ram door switch problem, could be happening because you have the wrong battery, and a copy non genuine battery, as the oem genuine battery for your Aspire A515-51 should be a 4CELL3.22 Acer part #: KT.00405.005 that is a 3220mAh, 48Wh , 15.2V, Li-ion type battery as that is what you should use for this laptop, as the copy battery is probably an inferior battery and that is why its giving that orange charging light. Change the battery, as those copy cheaper batteries are not worth buying. Good luck and hope this helps you out some more.

    Only use these compatible 4 Cell 3.22 Acer batteries that Acer recommends for your Aspire A515-51 model laptop.

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