Concerns regarding RGB Lighting issue in predator Helios PH315-52-588F, can't change colors

EvolLOL
EvolLOL Member Posts: 9 New User
edited March 5 in Predator Laptops

i had just bought an acer predator helios 300 the 2020 1660ti model its not really listed on the acer website anywhere but they do have information about it along with some information i learned from videos i watched on people who reviewed it on launch and they say some American models don't have RGB but mine does in fact does have the 4-Zone RGB sticker only problem is that it only lights up blue and predator sense has no options to change it… now mind you all the drivers for this laptop are for windows 10 and this one is on windows 11 not sure if downgrading it could work but I've called acer support who is gonna call me back tomorrow with there more advanced tech support help but i dont want to waste anyone's time and have this be a simple fix that im over looking they confirmed with me that the "4-zone RGB" sticker means that it does indeed have RGB backlighting. any help regarding this situation?

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  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 13,420 Trailblazer

    What is the exact PH315-xx model number of your Predator Helios with the GTX1660Ti gpu, as the only 2020 released model service guide that we have is for the Helios 300 PH315-53 model and its service guide does not have the GTX1660Ti gpu listed as an oem gpu, as this model range has the RTX3060, NVIDIA RTX 3070 Max-Q and the NVIDIA RTX 3080 Max-Q gpu’s as its oem supplied gpu’s for the PH315-53 laptops. Your PH315-53 must be a different model and it must be an odd model that Acer release for a cheaper range of this Predator Helios range so that they can sell it in certain markets.

    With the RGB your Predator must have only a one colour keyboard RGB and can’t be mixed, as the Predator Sense determines the range and settings for the RGB colours, so whatever you have in PS that is all the colours that you have, also, the Win-10 PS will not work and/or install in Win-11 for the PH315-53 that you have, as the PS for your laptop model is specifically for Win-10. Good luck and hope this helps you out further.

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  • AnhEZ28
    AnhEZ28 ACE, Member Posts: 4,849 Pathfinder

    @EvolLOL

    You can try to reinstall the Predator Sense to see if the keyboard lightning is back.

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  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 13,420 Trailblazer
    edited March 5

    The Predator Helios that he has with the GTX1660Ti gpu is an Acer Win-10 driver laptop and the PS for Win-10 will NOT install on his Win-11 OS, read the post question first, before you answer a post with a wrong answer AnhEZ28!

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  • EvolLOL
    EvolLOL Member Posts: 9 New User

    Thanks for the quick reply. the model is PH315-52-588F

    and i have serios doubts on it not having RGB i think when it came out it was an option to put it in the computer or something bbecause looking at all the other models of my same number NONE of them have the 4 zone rgb sticker

  • EvolLOL
    EvolLOL Member Posts: 9 New User
    edited March 5

    also i would like to quickly add that i did some deep research before making my purchase and im pretty sure that all the laptops withh the sticker do indeed have it as RGB mean red green blue and the 4 zone would indicate that it has 4 zones that can be programmed to different colors via predator sense

  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 13,420 Trailblazer

    As I've said the PH315-52 PS has all the colours that you can set the keyboard RGB to, if its only got one colour then that is all that your PH315-52 model is set to. Also your PH315-52 model must be a special model that Acer release later on for a cheaper cost as the oem service guide from Acer doesn't list the GTX1660Ti gpu. As the PH315-52 came with the RTX2060, RTX2060Ti and the RTX2070 Max Q gpu's as per the service guide below and the mobo block diagram.

    Block diagram for the PH315-53 gpu's from its service guide

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  • EvolLOL
    EvolLOL Member Posts: 9 New User
    edited March 5

    okay so can this this be explained in depth? can it be changed to a different color? yes or no. and will reverting back to windows 10 fix the rgb? these instructions have to be more clear. because im reading yes it can change the color but im also reading no it cannot change color. my problem is that predator sense isn't showing the lighting option. is this caused by the drivers/predator sense/ windows 11/or lack of rgb at all?

  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 13,420 Trailblazer

    Your laptop has the colors whatever is in PS and that is all in Win-11 that you have, if you change the OS to Win-10 then the appropriate PH315-52 Win-10 Predator Sense version 3.00.3136 can be installed and all the colors should come back like when the laptop left Acer with. Good luck.

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  • EvolLOL
    EvolLOL Member Posts: 9 New User
  • EvolLOL
    EvolLOL Member Posts: 9 New User
    edited March 5

    yeah so that definitely didn't work. i think I'm missing a driver for the keyboard this isn't correct.

  • AnhEZ28
    AnhEZ28 ACE, Member Posts: 4,849 Pathfinder

    @EvolLOL Can you show the screenshot of the Predator Sense?

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  • AnhEZ28
    AnhEZ28 ACE, Member Posts: 4,849 Pathfinder

    I have to totally disagree with you on that. Even though the laptop does not have Windows 11 drivers posted, Predator Sense will still work regardless the laptop is on Windows 10 or 11.

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  • EvolLOL
    EvolLOL Member Posts: 9 New User

    yes sure and im sorry for the late reply have been busy today

    so i got off the phone with support and the dude was super unhelpful they swear to god that my model only left the factory wit the blue backlit keyboard but mine says it has 4-zone rgb. i noticed that acerlightingserivce.exe wasnt running at all on my computer and in that fact was never installed and still doesnt install…. im really at a loss right now and could use any help available.

  • EvolLOL
    EvolLOL Member Posts: 9 New User

    also sorry forgot to

    @AnhEZ28

  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 13,420 Trailblazer
    edited 12:07AM

    Hey AnhEZ28 do you own a Nitro or a Predator laptop and have you installed a Win-11 NS or PS into a Win-10 OS laptop or visa versa? As I own both and have been using these laptops for 6 years, and what you are saying is NOT the case, as I've tried to install a Win-10 NS and NS and PS on a Win-11 OS and it didn't install, other drivers might install but NS or PS will not.

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  • AnhEZ28
    AnhEZ28 ACE, Member Posts: 4,849 Pathfinder

    @EvolLOL

    Open regedit, go to this location HKEY_local_machine\SOFTWARE\OEM\Predator Sense\Lightning, and change the keyboard color value data to 2.

    Also, check in the Services to see if the Acer lightning service is available.

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  • EvolLOL
    EvolLOL Member Posts: 9 New User

    @AnhEZ28

    hey thanks a lot that seems to be helpful as i noticed none of those are in there and none of the files leading up to the predator sense are even there is this an issue? also i realized my bios doesnt look anything like how the rest of my laptop models looks its not predator its just the old school windows one which seems weird for a gaming laptop.. could that also play a part in my RGB not channging colors?