Overheating and fan control issues with Predator Helios Neo 16 (PHN16-72). Looking for solutions?

I am aware of how temps work, what I mentioned was the fact that the fans themselves ramp up insanely loudly once it touches 80c, even when i have set it to quiet or manual in terms of fan speed (NOT profile. Will discuss that separately). And yes, I am aware it will not perform as a desktop pc, and that it will be loud, BUT for perspective, I've bought this laptop as a replacement for my 2021 Asus Rog Scar 17 (5900h @80w tdp, rtx3070 at 130w tgp), and when put side by side, the Asus fans at 100% make the noise level (50ish db) that the Helios Neo makes at 40% fan speed (or basically , as soon as it touches 80c on the cpu). For context, the Asus never even touched 95c, while the 14900hx I limited it manually to 65w, so lower than my old one and would still overheat and be louder)
The cpu itself, as I mentioned and you ignored, touches 1.5volts. That is part of the reason why it overheats, while the clocks themselves are surprisingly low (below 4ghz on both pcore and ecores, quite a difference from the supposed 5.7ghz all core that's marketed for this cpu and by Acer in the product page) and the fans are simply unacceptably loud when compared to alternatives from Asus, Msi, Lenovo, Gigabyte. That is also a problem, as we are now all well aware of the cpu degradation possible on the Intel 13th and 14th gens and how it was actively caused by too much voltage. 1.5v is too much voltage for anything and everything other than LN2 extreme overclocking.
The simple fact that any MANUAL fan speed that I set is completely ignored once it reaches 80c is an incredibly annoying thing, as it shows the complete and utter lack of any control over it.
As for your link, you clearly didn't read what I've said, or aren't sufficiently versed in it: the voltage is LOCKED. Everything is basically locked nowadays on the Predator Helios, only thing I can change is the power limit itself, which I can lower, but due to it still overvolting, it turns into a massive drop in performance with barely any real effect on temps. There is no undervolt possible because Acer deemed we're not allowed to do that anymore, and gave a lying reason as to why (they said undervolting killed cpus. that is completely impossible, worst case, you can get is system instability, fixable through a bios/cmos reset, which could easily be implemented as a key combo, like Power Button+Esc for 15 seconds or whatever)
Speaking of performance, like I said in my original post: going from Performance Mode to Balanced gives a drop of about 40% in performance. That's a huge loss, and even so, the fans are still louder than any gaming laptop I've ever tried. I do NOT have to expect the fans to be so loud, when not even running it at full capabilities, and when suffering such a performance loss. I want to change the curve to whatever I decide, not be completely ignored by it once it reaches 80c, as a laptop cpu will ALWAYS reach at least 80c.

Now for the thermal interface:
I've removed what I suspect is soft soldering tin pretending to be liquid metal that came with the laptop and for the time being, I have replaced it with TG Kryosheets, aka graphene pads, on both cpu and gpu, which indeed dropped temps, but still insufficiently to stop it from commandeering my fan speeds and going ham on them just because.
Replaced the chewing gum that was on the memory modules and IC modules with TG Putty Advanced (the Pro was sold out, havent been able to get my hands on yet), and the gpu and gpu hotspots are below 80c at all times.

There are 2 ways all of this would have been fixable:

• allow users to undervolt, be it in bios, or just allowing us to use ThrottleStop / XTU to undervolt ourselves. Lock overvolting and max power draw to keep it safe, sure, but allow undervolt. That would be the best case scenario where users who actually know what they're doing could get some proper performance out of it. In it's current state, a flagship 14900hx and a 4070 is BARELY beating a 3 year old laptop with older gen cpu and gpu due to clock throttles caused by the heat (in turn, caused by the voltage). Allowing this is by far the best case scenario.
• allow users to have a proper fan curve that doesnt get edited and ignored as soon as the laptop reaches 80c. I would understand it at 90c, or 95c, but at 80c , it's quite extreme. Practically any game will get you there either instantly or within less than 3 minutes, making any setting of yours completely moot.

Reapplying Liquid Metal will drop temps A LITTLE bit, but not by that much. Honestly, I'd recommend you do the same as I did, and instead of using Liquid Metal (which is a bit more risky to use, anyway, unless you already have experience with it. I do, just prefer to not use it unless I have to), but to instead use Thermal Grizzly KryoSheet Graphene pads (get two packs, in 33x33cm or larger, and you will need to manually cut them gently with a scissor, to size) and put that instead of the liquid metal on the cpu and gpu. The original liquid metal, which to me felt like a very cheap substance, closer to a liquid-ish soldering thin more than any actual liquid metal I've ever touched, can be easily cleaned with Isopropyl Alcohol, to remove it and clean the gpu and cpu die as best as you can.
As another recommendation , get some Thermal Grizzly Putty Advanced, to either fully replace, or to add, on the gpu's vram modules and IC, just in case, to be 100% sure they have full contact and transfer the heat away.
That should drop your temps by a decent bit.

Out of curiosity, can you please install HWInfo64, and look at the temperatures and at the Cpu Voltage (Vcore / VID) , and tell me the max voltage the cpu gets? My suspicion is that you have the same issue as I have, which is unnecessary voltage causing the heat. (practically the whole point of this post of mine, which clearly Acer will ignore, but so will I in terms of ever purchasing another of their products)

As I said earlier, I already am running 0x129 on it, aka bios 1.15, which is the latest available for the PHN16-72 according to Acer's website, and again: Intel TVB and voltage issues mainly plagued the 13900 and 14900 series cpus, NOT the 13500/14500/13700/14700 variants. It's the exact same with the cpu segment, no xx700 reported as degraded, only the xx900 ones, because they used more power and far more voltage, based on increased clocks (which mine seem to never achieve, anyway…) and number of cores/threads.

The "fixed" microcode is, in theory, already in place. What it does, among other things, is limit max voltage to 1.6v, but it still goes close to that, even though it does NOT require so much voltage for any reason whatsoever.

Would a new microcode fix some issues? Sure, it will add more limitations, BUT at the end of the day, the best way to fix the problems with the 13th and 14th gen flagship cpus has been and will remain the same: manual undervolting.
Undervolting has been the most effective way to keep Intel flagship cpus in check for well over a decade, and it has been for one particular reason: it actually works. As each chip is individually different from the next one, so do the microcode updates only apply a small band-aid on the problem; they cannot be the end-all , fix-all situation since they're made to function for everyone. Some cpus, as we once called them "golden bins" could undervolt (and overclock, but we dont care about that on a laptop) more, while others were not capable. Manual tweaks have always been needed, and will continue to be.

I have now installed the newest BIOS Update (1.16) that came out almost a week ago. Spend the last few days attempting to test it, just to conclude that I have to thank Acer for making it… EVEN WORSE.
Beforehand, it would have jumps to 1.45-1.5volts, few and relatively rare. Just enough to overheat and become excessively loud.
NOW, on the other hand, after the new lovely update, it stays almost constantly above 1.42v, hitting 1.5+ volts very often.
More heat, louder fans ramp-up since I still cannot control them aaaaand LESS performance than on BIOS 1.15 overall. Cinebench and 3D Mark scores put the laptop at least 30% BELOW similar specced laptops, with Cinebench receiving an even bigger hit.
Thank you Acer for making a submediocre product even worse. It's quite an achievement how you've managed to make a 14900hx + 4070 UNDERPERFORM compared to a 13500h + 4060 laptop in both benchmarks and game framerate.

Lesson freakin' learned. Never again spending money on Acer products, and will try to use this as example to help my friends not make my mistake either.


And all this shyte could've been easily fixed by the users if only they allowed us to undervolt and have some actual, real control over the fans. But nah, if they cant fix their own products, we shouldnt be allowed to fix it, either!