New Samsung sata III 870 Evo take over boot than NVME OS SDD (Acer nitro 5 AN515-45)

ItsiRyan
ItsiRyan Member Posts: 4 New User
edited July 2024 in Nitro Gaming

Hello, I'm quite new to hardware problems for computers overall and seeing this community is quite knowledgeable and friendly to new user so I decided to ask here regarding my problems as well. Recently I brought a new Samsung sata III drive and installed it in my Acer nitro 5 515-45, it comes with Amd ryzen 5 5600H and GTX 1650 variant and windows OS comes preinstalled on NVME Samsung SSD. Now problem was after I installed the new SATA drive that I brought into the 2.5 slot, the laptop have problems booting afterwards, stuck in automatic repair loop till I go into bios and switch seemingly 2 entries of windows boot manager from bottom to top priority then only it boots after. The problem persists each time the laptop is shut down and turn on again. So I been finding solutions to fix this and I don't want to reinstall my windows.

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  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 14,505 Trailblazer
    edited July 2024 Answer ✓

    You must have done something wrong when cloning your boot drive: "Cloning or imaging a disk to create a backup or transfer data to a new drive can also lead to the presence of duplicate boot entries. When the cloned or imaged drive is connected to the system, BIOS recognizes the Boot Manager from the original drive as well as the cloned one". Try to take out the 2.5" Sata SSD and boot to see if the 2nd Windows boot manager on BIOS boot devices screen is gone. If that boots OK do the reformatting of the Sata drive in an external USB case on another PC like I advised earlier. If still the same issue you may have to back up your boot drive to an external drive with a simple backup program like W7 BU-Image file in W11 control panel, remove all other drives and clean install W11 on the HDD0 NVMe SSD. The VHD backup image on the external drive can then be mounted in File Explorer later and files/folders can be copied to C:\ or other storage drives but you will have to download and install programs from scratch and update Windows.

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  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 14,505 Trailblazer
    edited July 2024

    You can have only one copy of bootable Windows in a system, if the 2.5" Sata-3 SSD also has a Windows version on it take the Sata drive out and mount it in an external USB case. On another Windows PC reformat the external Sata SSD and put it back in the laptop. Boot to Windows and change Sata mode to AHCI, save changes on exit BIOS.

  • ItsiRyan
    ItsiRyan Member Posts: 4 New User

    But it's a new SATA drive that I brought and I even booted it previously after switching boot order and reformat in the laptop to setup as new partition, how is it still have windows on it?

  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 14,505 Trailblazer
    edited July 2024

    What is HDD0 in the BIOS Info tab showing, the Sata SSD or the NVMe? Samsung may have pre-loaded a bootloader on it to start their Magician software, what is your Sata Mode in BIOS set at: RST-Optane or AHCI? Set that to AHCI and save changes on exit BIOS.

  • ItsiRyan
    ItsiRyan Member Posts: 4 New User
    edited July 2024

    On HDD0 is the nvme, that's where windows OS is at, and by default sata mode shows AHCI so I don't know what else to change.

    I've only updated the bios just now and problem still persists.

  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 14,505 Trailblazer
    edited July 2024 Answer ✓

    You must have done something wrong when cloning your boot drive: "Cloning or imaging a disk to create a backup or transfer data to a new drive can also lead to the presence of duplicate boot entries. When the cloned or imaged drive is connected to the system, BIOS recognizes the Boot Manager from the original drive as well as the cloned one". Try to take out the 2.5" Sata SSD and boot to see if the 2nd Windows boot manager on BIOS boot devices screen is gone. If that boots OK do the reformatting of the Sata drive in an external USB case on another PC like I advised earlier. If still the same issue you may have to back up your boot drive to an external drive with a simple backup program like W7 BU-Image file in W11 control panel, remove all other drives and clean install W11 on the HDD0 NVMe SSD. The VHD backup image on the external drive can then be mounted in File Explorer later and files/folders can be copied to C:\ or other storage drives but you will have to download and install programs from scratch and update Windows.

  • ItsiRyan
    ItsiRyan Member Posts: 4 New User

    Thanks you so much for the answer, after I formatted the sata ssd in another pc, while the 2nd windows boot manager still persist even after I formatted again then I replug in each of the NVME ssd and the ram sticks and replug in the sata ssd again and it boots just fine right after without going into the boot loader to change it manually. I didn't check if formatted sata ssd helps but I think it did. So thanks for the answer, much appreciated. 🤩