Help - Acer Aspire 5742G - Does anyone know what this cover is on the GPU?

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  • Skybluesky
    Skybluesky Member Posts: 66 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    Interesting information, all this helps understand the laptop better. Thank you very much for taking the time to help around the forum and for your effort.

    I will look into it. It may take some time and I let you know here later how it went. Hope this aspire will work soon.

    Again, thank you, it was helpful and clarified some of my doubts.

  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,891 Trailblazer

    Good luck!

    Jack E/NJ

    Jack E/NJ

  • Skybluesky
    Skybluesky Member Posts: 66 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    Hello again!

    I finally replaced whatever was on the GPU and chipset for a thermal pad with a 21w/mk grey one (1st photo).

    Though the final work looked fine to me, as I suspected, it didn´t turn on after reassembled. A small detail, this time, when opening this 5742G I noticed something I hadn´t seen before: there is this white ribbon cable that seems connected to the power button (2nd photo), that looks chipped where it has this metal lines. One of them is half-missing - could this be the reason why it used to turn on before I opened it and now it doesn´t (photo 3, detail with arrow)?

    A few years ago, the laptop went for repair because it wouldn´t turn on. But the technician didn´t fix anything and still damaged the plastic connector that holds this exact ribbon cable. I remember we argued and it went back for fixing it, but he never replaced the ribbon cable and I remeber it had a slight damage.

    I dislike opening this laptop because of this: the ribbon has to be removed every time I have to get to the fan/cooler. I try to be careful but just removing and putting it back again may have damaged this ribbon even further.

    What do you think? Anyone has an idea?

    I´m looking for the number of this ribbon cable, to see if it may be this.

    It´s just strange that it was turning on but disconnecting and now, after opening and putting all back again, it doesn´t even give any signs of life… :(

    BTW, I haven´t tried the electrician putty yet.

  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,891 Trailblazer
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    I´m looking for the number of this ribbon cable, to see if it may be this.

    Number is printed on the ribbon itself. It's a quite common Toshiba part Hamburg-SH E235863. Google the part number to find a vendor who ships to your location. But I don't think it's the problem since the mainboard wire connector contact shadow on the ribbon conductor seems to overlap what's left of the conductor. However, new ribbons are pretty cheap so it's up to you if you want to try replacing it to see if it makes a difference.

    Jack E/NJ

  • Skybluesky
    Skybluesky Member Posts: 66 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    @jackE

    I had been searching for it but had to check the number to be sure.

    Like you say, that flex or ribbon cable is folded in that part you say overlaps. This is because the cover pressed it down, but I'm not sure it' s damaged there. It did stop connecting after I opened it this time.

    I will look for that ribbon cable and give it a try. Thanks. 😃

    Besides, I don´t know what else may be. Maybe I´ll give up trying to fix this one - it´s beyond my abilities.

  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,891 Trailblazer

    that flex or ribbon cable is folded in that part you say overlaps.

    What do you mean by "folded in"? Looks to me like about half the copper plating is stripped off, not folded in, the ribbon contact. But the corresponding mainboard wire contact looks like its still connecting to what's left of the copper plating as evidenced by the wire shadow marks as shown in the image below. Perhaps the ribbon isn't being push far enough inside the mainboard connector. Also the ribbon should held in place with a plastic wedge or clip that presses & holds the ribbon copper plating against the mainboard wire contacts.

    Jack E/NJ

  • Skybluesky
    Skybluesky Member Posts: 66 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    You see that photo above from Aliexpress you uploaded? The ribbons on that photo are folded. That´s what I meant. You can´t see it on my photos of the flat cable I have, but it´s folded too.

    And true, the ribbon is held in place by a plastic wedge - I checked and it seems to be pushed enough and well locked to me, but well maybe it isn´t making a great contact. So I will try to replace this ribbon.

    My only doubt is how do I glue it to the power button circuit? I´m sorry to bother, but do you know if it needs any special glue?

    You can see it glued in this photo below.

    BTW, today I found that Acer no long has the page for support with manuals and downloads for this computer. I understand, it´s an old laptop but still it´s a sad because I see many people still using them. Sure, that at this age, many 5742G start having all kinds of problems but the ones that still have this laptops working can have a need for manual or others.

  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,891 Trailblazer
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    OK. The folds are normal. But google the part number again from your location for vendors who might have a better image of exactly what you get. If the board isn't already attached, the other end of the ribbon should slip into the button board in a similar wedged way, not glued. As for manuals and drivers for older WinXP/Vista era models, 3rd party sources such as manuals lib dot com should have them.

    Jack E/NJ

  • Skybluesky
    Skybluesky Member Posts: 66 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    I don´t know why everyone keeps telling me that this ribbon cable isn't glued to power board, because I tried to remove it carefully and it was sticked to the inside. It looks like glue or some adhesive tape.

    Here is an example (NEW70 LS-5893P, the yellow circle indicates where the cable is "glued"):

  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,891 Trailblazer

    Order the part since it's cheap enough. Unless otherwise stated, it may in fact include the button board shown in the ads.

    Jack E/NJ

  • Skybluesky
    Skybluesky Member Posts: 66 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    You´re right, I should have remembered that every circuit has to be soldered to make good contact. It´s just not a subject I know well.

    It is also glued and that was what I could see just peeking. This morning I peeled it all to see what is underneath and in fact it is soldered and then has glue to hold the cable an the plastic cover over it:

    Thank you for your patience. I had decided to try it. It´s easier than soldering, which is something I never did. It would be interesting though.

  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,891 Trailblazer
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    It´s easier than soldering

    Maybe. Maybe not. Depends on if the board is included. Not a 100% certainty unless a vendor says it is.

    Note that the manufacturing date stamps on your old board & cable are different. Which may or may not mean they are sold separately and must be assembled (soldered).

    It's a gamble. But I think the price is low enough to justify a try. Good luck.

    Jack E/NJ

  • Skybluesky
    Skybluesky Member Posts: 66 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    I bought it to give a try.

    I´m also looking for another computer and looking into Acer again. This one had heating issues but it was actually not that bad for a laptop of 2010 or 2011. It held on for a long time.

    Thank you. :)

  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,891 Trailblazer

    >> This one had heating issues»>

    Yeah, many laptop mfrs in that era had those. Because mobile processors still generated nearly as much waste heat as those in a desktop, and laptop enclosures focused more on cosmetics than proper venting for all the stuff crammed into them.

    Jack E/NJ

  • Skybluesky
    Skybluesky Member Posts: 66 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    Now many laptops are so thin that I wonder how they cool them at all!

  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,891 Trailblazer

    Some laptops now use sealed-tube coolant modules to ferry heat better than air from processors to the edge-mounted heat sinks. Sometimes they leak.😮

    Jack E/NJ

  • Skybluesky
    Skybluesky Member Posts: 66 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    Don´t even know what that is! 😐️ But sounds bad. They don't use copper anymore?

    Sorry for taking so long to reply, this has been a hectic week. As I said, I´m going ahead and I´m waiting for the power button board circuit and will give it a try. :)

    If that doesn´t work, I´m already looking for a new computer - I will see if I find an Acer laptop that does what I need.

  • AnhEZ28
    AnhEZ28 ACE, Member Posts: 4,292 Pathfinder

    @Skybluesky

    The heatsink for the PC uses a copper heatpipe that transfers the heat from the CPU/GPU to the fins.

    Please remember to include @AnhEZ28 when you want to reply back to my comment so that I can check your response.
    Thank you and have a nice day!
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,891 Trailblazer

    Don´t even know what that is! 😐️ But sounds bad. They don't use copper anymore?

    Many newer models cooled by airflow-only (air coolant), now use plastic or aluminum air ducts, not copper or brass. It's cheaper to do so. These air ducts are not sealed.

    Sealed tube ducts use a liquified coolant, not air. So yes, leaks are bad. AFAIK, they're still copper or brass. That may change too due to the price of copper —- almost could call it a precious metal these days. 🙂

    Jack E/NJ

  • Skybluesky
    Skybluesky Member Posts: 66 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    @AnhEZ28 , thank you for your replay. Maybe I explained wrong: I know what a copper heatsink is, what I´ve never seen and can´t imagine is the new heatsink models with plastic/aluminum.

    Any clues or idea to which new Acer models use those sealed tube ducts? So we can avoid them…

    @JackE thank you very much for taking your time to reply to my doubts. You informed much more than I expected and I learned a few things.