Predator P03-640 Upgrade from RTX 3070 to RTX 4070

Badmann666
Badmann666 Member Posts: 4 New User
edited April 2023 in Predator Desktops

Hi

I have a Predator P03-640 would I benefit of upgrading to RTX 4070 without upgrade CPU to I7-12XXX, the RTX 4070 dual should fit in the machine, it is about the same sizes as RTX 3070,

And it is using the same power or less.

Br


[Edited the thread to add model name]

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  • chugzilla
    chugzilla Member Posts: 727 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
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    yeah, i was thinking the same thing or the acer predator bi frost card, its alot cheaper and probably similar performance with 16 gigs of vram compared to 12 on the 4070, not sure if either are worth the upgrade tho, the 3070 is pretty awesome i love it, im holding out for a price drop either way, no rush for a small increase in performance.

  • Quick420
    Quick420 Member Posts: 40 Devotee WiFi Icon
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    I put a 3090 in mine,loving the thing.It has 24gb vram so this machine is fully upgraded as far as I'm concerned.

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  • chugzilla
    chugzilla Member Posts: 727 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
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    yeah, i was thinking the same thing or the acer predator bi frost card, its alot cheaper and probably similar performance with 16 gigs of vram compared to 12 on the 4070, not sure if either are worth the upgrade tho, the 3070 is pretty awesome i love it, im holding out for a price drop either way, no rush for a small increase in performance.

  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,101 Trailblazer

    As long as they pul similar power, they should both work fine. As Chug suggests though, the improvement might not be worth the cost…

    Click on "Like" if you find my answer useful or click on "Yes" if it answers your question.
  • Quick420
    Quick420 Member Posts: 40 Devotee WiFi Icon
    Answer ✓

    I put a 3090 in mine,loving the thing.It has 24gb vram so this machine is fully upgraded as far as I'm concerned.

  • Bricky
    Bricky Member Posts: 18 Troubleshooter

    A 3090 will not fit in my P03-640 and the PSU will not be enough.

    Could you send a photo of your PC?

  • B12B
    B12B Member Posts: 2 New User

    Ive done this upgrade as a relative noob with research on a po3 640, well worth it over the 3060ti. The i5 12400f is enough processor as is the standard power supply. You need to get the ASUS dual 4070 as it fits perfect and comes with the 1x8 pin power connector, the card is 200w. All I needed to do was reset the CMOS by removing the battery and then change the hardware out, after you confirm the default BIOS settings the system will restart and post with the new GPU. It helps massively to have done the HDD cage removal mod and have a Noctua NH U9S and fans. Playing Elden Ring as an example I get 60fps (game is locked at this) on 4K max settings, CPU 65c, GPU 64c and system 44c in a 25c room. Its the orion 3000 I've always wanted now so I'd say go for it.

  • GotBanned
    GotBanned Member Posts: 653 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon

    Good to hear! If possible, please post a picture of your new setup. Thanks!

  • B12B
    B12B Member Posts: 2 New User

    This is what it looks like, notice the air space with the HDD cage gone and an extra grill I put in too. All the Noctua stuff is the same as recommended on the forum, I did away with the frostblades. You can see the ASUS 4070 dual fits perfect and the 1x8 pin is not bent against the glass. The i5 12400f can handle it as I use a 48" 4k tv with only 60hz so processor is a mute point, goes without saying anyone with high refresh on lower res will need more processor.

  • chugzilla
    chugzilla Member Posts: 727 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon

    thats awesome and looks great, all noctua fans? now throw a fan on the top rack for exhaust and maybe lay one on that lower grill as intake, it may help cool even more, i want a bottom fan, but when i removed my hdd caddy i only had 6 holes on the bottom, so i would have to do alot of drilling lol, so i have 7 total and 9 if ya count the gpu ones lol, i ended up putting 2x120mm cooler master mobius high velocity fans on my noctua cooler, mine came with a 3070 RTX, one day ill grab a 4070 when the price drops, maybe lol

  • GotBanned
    GotBanned Member Posts: 653 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon

    Looking good. Thanks!!

    Power hungry cards that come with 3-to-1 adapters have problems with side panels as the included adapter is so stiff. If the temps are to your liking I wouldn't add any fans.

  • ZeDan
    ZeDan Member Posts: 25 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    Out of curiosity, did you use an anti sag bracket? I’ve just made this upgrade myself but the anti sag bracket attached to the RTX 3060 the pc came with doesn’t fit on the Asus RTX 4070 Dual. Consequently, it is presently only attached to the screws by the display port.

  • GotBanned
    GotBanned Member Posts: 653 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon

    I know this is not what you asked, but support is not a must unless you travel with the PC.

    For the peace of mind you can buy generic GPU support or make one yourself. I have seen many people using figurines and legos as supports.

  • ZeDan
    ZeDan Member Posts: 25 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    Many thanks for this. That is helpful. The card seems to be fairly light and isn’t sagging at all the way it is inserted. I had contemplated purchasing a universal mounting bracket to further support it but am not looking to make needless work for myself.

    It looks like it will be quite fiddly to install a bracket with the remaining space so if I can skip that effort safely I’m more than happy to do so! I have also looked to see if I can insert a small support beam (e.g. Lego blocks) on top of the HDD cage to support it. However, I worry it will come loose and end up destroying the nearby fan.

    If others believe that a support bracket isn’t necessary for a pc that will be staying in one place by my desk, then I’m happy to leave it as. Thanks for your time and feedback.

  • LarsJ1
    LarsJ1 Member Posts: 3 New User

    Did you also replace/upgrade the front system fan? If so, how did you do it and has it made a difference in noise or temperatures? Pictures are always extra helpful :-)