PO3-630 GPU Waterblock

Astro_Game
Astro_Game Member Posts: 11

Tinkerer
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Hi have a Predator Orion 3000 PO3-630 and i want to waterblocking the gpu a someone knows wich i should byu and what change it would involve to make for exemple the power supply

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  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,898 Trailblazer
    While liquid cooling can be done, it's not easy to keep it tidy and practical mainly due to PO3 case/space PSU limitations. Here's a recent link on liquid cooling application to an almost identical PO3 in which temperatures were an issue under heavy loads. If it was my PO3-30, I would explore other possibly easier and more practical ways of keeping the temperatures down to more reasonable 70-80*C levels under heavy gaming loads.


    Jack E/NJ

  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,246 Trailblazer
    Almost all threads here involving water cooling are for CPU cooling, not GPU cooling. What temperatures are you seeing that make you want to do something that complex?
    Click on "Like" if you find my answer useful or click on "Yes" if it answers your question.
  • Astro_Game
    Astro_Game Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer
    billsey said:
    Almost all threads here involving water cooling are for CPU cooling, not GPU cooling. What temperatures are you seeing that make you want to do something that complex?
    Temperatures are not a real problem it is especially noise
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,898 Trailblazer
    So try speedfan freeware to see if you can adjust it lower.

    Jack E/NJ

  • Astro_Game
    Astro_Game Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer
    JackE said:
    So try speedfan freeware to see if you can adjust it lower.
    Hi sorry for the late reply. When I change the fan speed of the gpu it is at this point that the temperature becomes a problem. So that's why I wanted to waterblock the gpu. But I think the best and simplest solution is to change the gpu do you have any ideas of gpu that I could replace with mine (it's an rtx 3060).
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,898 Trailblazer
    >>>When I change the fan speed of the gpu it is at this point that the temperature becomes a problem>>>

    The 3060 is one of the better ones that I would keep if it were mine. What temperatures are you seeing at reduced speeds and normal speeds?

    Jack E/NJ

  • Astro_Game
    Astro_Game Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer
    JackE said:
    >>>When I change the fan speed of the gpu it is at this point that the temperature becomes a problem>>>

    The 3060 is one of the better ones that I would keep if it were mine. What temperatures are you seeing at reduced speeds and normal speeds?

    The temperature in normal speed is between 158 and 185°F and the temperatures in reduced speed are between 167 and 203°F I think it's temperature are due to the fact that the gpu has a blower ventilation system.
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,898 Trailblazer
    Anything below about 190*F should be OK. Is it the fan noise that's bothering you at normal speeds? How much airspace do you have on both sides of the card? Should be at least an inch or more before hitting an airflow obstacle. Anything blocking the air exhaust or intake?

    Jack E/NJ

  • Astro_Game
    Astro_Game Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer
    JackE said:
    Anything below about 190*F should be OK. Is it the fan noise that's bothering you at normal speeds? How much airspace do you have on both sides of the card? Should be at least an inch or more before hitting an airflow obstacle. Anything blocking the air exhaust or intake?
    Yes it is the noise that disturbs the only thing that I think blocks the airflow would be the hard drive bay.
  • Astro_Game
    Astro_Game Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer
    But it seems that there is a fairly large space between the hard disk bay and the GPU fan.
  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,246 Trailblazer
    What about the space between the GPU and the PSU? Is the airflow for the PS"U moving up in the case and the airflow for the GPU moving down in the same area? Or is the airflow from the GPU moving down, then through the PSU and exiting out the back?
    Click on "Like" if you find my answer useful or click on "Yes" if it answers your question.
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,898 Trailblazer
    >>>Yes it is the noise that disturbs>>>

    OK. You are likely dealing with a common beat-frequency drone problem with multiple fans running at slightly different rpms at maximum speed.  The drone can be quite intense or annoying. But often be made more tolerable by manually adjusting the beat frequency or speed difference between the two fans. The nvidia CP usually doesn't give you this capability. Have you tried EVGA CP  yet from this link. There may be other CPs but folks seem high on this one. I would try to tone down the beat frequency drone with software before looking for another card cuz the 3060 is such a good one.


    Jack E/NJ

  • Astro_Game
    Astro_Game Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer
    billsey said:
    What about the space between the GPU and the PSU? Is the airflow for the PS"U moving up in the case and the airflow for the GPU moving down in the same area? Or is the airflow from the GPU moving down, then through the PSU and exiting out the back?
    The space between the gpu and the psu seems to be 7 cm. The airflow of the psu seems to go to the gpu fan (or outward i don't really know). The airflow of the gpu seems to go up and then out through the fan from the top
  • Astro_Game
    Astro_Game Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer
    edited June 2022
    JackE said:
    >>>Yes it is the noise that disturbs>>>

    OK. You are likely dealing with a common beat-frequency drone problem with multiple fans running at slightly different rpms at maximum speed.  The drone can be quite intense or annoying. But often be made more tolerable by manually adjusting the beat frequency or speed difference between the two fans. The nvidia CP usually doesn't give you this capability. Have you tried EVGA CP  yet from this link. There may be other CPs but folks seem high on this one. I would try to tone down the beat frequency drone with software before looking for another card cuz the 3060 is such a good one.


    I use msi afterburner (which is very similar to an evga x1 precision) to modify the ventilation curve (a 30%) it goes to the maximum at 1340 rpm. I also change the power curve to a maximum of 1320 mhz (above the temperature explodes) and I never reach more than 180°F
  • Astro_Game
    Astro_Game Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer
    edited June 2022
    Astro_Game said:
    JackE said:
    >>>Yes it is the noise that disturbs>>>

    OK. You are likely dealing with a common beat-frequency drone problem with multiple fans running at slightly different rpms at maximum speed.  The drone can be quite intense or annoying. But often be made more tolerable by manually adjusting the beat frequency or speed difference between the two fans. The nvidia CP usually doesn't give you this capability. Have you tried EVGA CP  yet from this link. There may be other CPs but folks seem high on this one. I would try to tone down the beat frequency drone with software before looking for another card cuz the 3060 is such a good one.


    I use msi afterburner (which is very similar to an evga x1 precision) to modify the ventilation curve (a 30%) it goes to the maximum at 1340 rpm. I also change the power curve to a maximum of 1320 mhz (above the temperature explodes) and I never reach more than 180°F
    But it's annoying because I don't enjoy the performance of the rtx 3060 (it should be noted that the graphics card makes the noise of a reaction engine when it reaches more than 147°F in normal ventilation mode)
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,898 Trailblazer
    >>>I use msi afterburner (which is very similar to an evga x1 precision)>>>

    Yes, but can you control one fan's speed without affecting the other fan's speed? This is necessary to control beat frequency drone in the 3060 card itself.

    If you can't do this on the 3060 fans, then perhaps you can control the beat frequencies generated between the 3060 fans, the case fans or the CPU fans. Beat frequencies can result from any two or more fans operating at different rpms. Beat frequencies can become quite loud even if each fan is fairly quiet when only running by itself. This is because beat frequencies can often make the case enclosure structure resonate and seem to amplify sound almost like a speaker cone.

    Jack E/NJ

  • Astro_Game
    Astro_Game Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer
    JackE said:
    >>>I use msi afterburner (which is very similar to an evga x1 precision)>>>

    Yes, but can you control one fan's speed without affecting the other fan's speed? This is necessary to control beat frequency drone in the 3060 card itself.

    If you can't do this on the 3060 fans, then perhaps you can control the beat frequencies generated between the 3060 fans, the case fans or the CPU fans. Beat frequencies can result from any two or more fans operating at different rpms. Beat frequencies can become quite loud even if each fan is fairly quiet when only running by itself. This is because beat frequencies can often make the case enclosure structure resonate and seem to amplify sound almost like a speaker cone.

    Yes but the graphics card only has one blower fan so I can't
  • Astro_Game
    Astro_Game Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer
    Hi after some time I come back here to ask you if you have any idea of graphics card model with two fan advised and a cpu cooler knowing that my current configuration is an rtx 3060 and an intel core i5 11400f.

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