Change cpu orion 3000 630

Npgreger
Npgreger Member Posts: 3 New User
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Hi
I have an Orion 3000 630 with a cpu I7 11700F. Is it possible to change to I9 11900K? If so, do I need to change anything else like cooler or power supply? 

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  • GotBanned
    GotBanned Member Posts: 654 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
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    Maybe, but why would you? Is there some specific task your CPU can't handle? I'm being genuinely curious here.

    Few things come to mind:
    • Processors have the same number of cores and threads, so don't expect much of a performance boost from here.
    • 11900K has higher clocks (and higher TDP 65W vs. 125W), but only if temp stays low enough.
    • Getting beefier cooler. Your case being as small as it is rules out many awesome coolers. Unfortunately.
    • Your motherboard won't let you overclock your CPU or RAM, therefore I see no point in buying a K model CPU.
    In my opinion, 11700F and 11900K paired with your motherboard are very similar performance wise. If you expect a big performance uplift in games and spend hundred on a new CPU, you'll be disappointed.
  • GotBanned
    GotBanned Member Posts: 654 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
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    Photo and especially 4K video editing might be somewhat faster, but I don't know if we are talking seconds or minutes here. All depends on the software and workloads.

    Some editing programs rely on pure CPU power while others load most of the work to GPU. I'd suggest you to visit PugetSystems and read few articles over there. Usually it is "enough" to to have a SSD drive, modern nVidia GPU and 32Gb of RAM.

    Since you have PO3-630 I think you have 3060Ti or 3070. Either one should be good enough as they have plenty of CUDA cores and VRAM. That is, if the programs you use support CUDA. As for RAM, I'd guess you have 16Gb now, which might slow things down a bit.

    One good thing about 11900K is that it has integrated GPU on it. iGPU can do some encoding and decoding task if the editing software supports it. But a modern GPU like what you have should be as fast or even faster than any iGPU. (I am not sure if this is true.)

    If you consider building a new editing PC, I'd visit https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/ and https://www.dpreview.com/forums/1004 for guidance and expert opinion.

    Take care!
  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,246 Trailblazer
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    The K model processor will require a bunch of other mods, due to it's higher power budget. I believe there is an i9-11900F that would be a direct, drop in replacement. As suggested though I don't think it's going to give you a big boost. Look at the rest of your system first. Graphics editing take a bunch of memory and wants really fast disk access. So if you are running something like 16GB of memory, bump it to 32GB or 64GB (or higher) first. If you are using a HDD then a SSD is a must. If you have one of the hybrid systems with a small SSD for the system and a big HDD for the data, think of swapping the small SSD out for a bigger one (I have a 2TB in my system) with a reasonably big chunk partitioned for image manipulation.
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  • GotBanned
    GotBanned Member Posts: 654 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    Answer ✓
    Maybe, but why would you? Is there some specific task your CPU can't handle? I'm being genuinely curious here.

    Few things come to mind:
    • Processors have the same number of cores and threads, so don't expect much of a performance boost from here.
    • 11900K has higher clocks (and higher TDP 65W vs. 125W), but only if temp stays low enough.
    • Getting beefier cooler. Your case being as small as it is rules out many awesome coolers. Unfortunately.
    • Your motherboard won't let you overclock your CPU or RAM, therefore I see no point in buying a K model CPU.
    In my opinion, 11700F and 11900K paired with your motherboard are very similar performance wise. If you expect a big performance uplift in games and spend hundred on a new CPU, you'll be disappointed.
  • Npgreger
    Npgreger Member Posts: 3 New User
     Thanks for good avise! My thought was that the higher clock frequence would make the cpu work faster. I am doing complicated editing of photos and videos and I thought some tasks would need less time with a faster cpu. 
  • GotBanned
    GotBanned Member Posts: 654 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    Answer ✓
    Photo and especially 4K video editing might be somewhat faster, but I don't know if we are talking seconds or minutes here. All depends on the software and workloads.

    Some editing programs rely on pure CPU power while others load most of the work to GPU. I'd suggest you to visit PugetSystems and read few articles over there. Usually it is "enough" to to have a SSD drive, modern nVidia GPU and 32Gb of RAM.

    Since you have PO3-630 I think you have 3060Ti or 3070. Either one should be good enough as they have plenty of CUDA cores and VRAM. That is, if the programs you use support CUDA. As for RAM, I'd guess you have 16Gb now, which might slow things down a bit.

    One good thing about 11900K is that it has integrated GPU on it. iGPU can do some encoding and decoding task if the editing software supports it. But a modern GPU like what you have should be as fast or even faster than any iGPU. (I am not sure if this is true.)

    If you consider building a new editing PC, I'd visit https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/ and https://www.dpreview.com/forums/1004 for guidance and expert opinion.

    Take care!
  • Npgreger
    Npgreger Member Posts: 3 New User
    Thank you for sharing your knowledge😊. 
  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,246 Trailblazer
    Answer ✓
    The K model processor will require a bunch of other mods, due to it's higher power budget. I believe there is an i9-11900F that would be a direct, drop in replacement. As suggested though I don't think it's going to give you a big boost. Look at the rest of your system first. Graphics editing take a bunch of memory and wants really fast disk access. So if you are running something like 16GB of memory, bump it to 32GB or 64GB (or higher) first. If you are using a HDD then a SSD is a must. If you have one of the hybrid systems with a small SSD for the system and a big HDD for the data, think of swapping the small SSD out for a bigger one (I have a 2TB in my system) with a reasonably big chunk partitioned for image manipulation.
    Click on "Like" if you find my answer useful or click on "Yes" if it answers your question.

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