Acer Travelmate B117 unable to boot from SATA SSD

stehlajz
stehlajz Member Posts: 2 New User
Hello everyone,
Friend give me two of his Travelmate B117 to reinstall OS from internal eMMC storage to SATA SSD Samsung Evo 860 since the internal storage is ridiculously small but I have encountred problems.

When I do fresh install on the sata drive the notebook is unable to boot and ended up with corrupted bootloader and bluescreen. With advanced options I am able to boot back to the old system on eMMC (choosing old drive as system to boot) but the new OS on sata the laptop just wont boot at all.

So far I tried:
A ) Installing new OS on SATA with old OS on eMMC - corrupted bootloader, new system unable to boot (as previously mentioned)
B ) Removing old OS from eMMC and installing only new OS w. UEFI and Secureboot - no bootable device at all, but both drives visible in bios
C ) Removing old OS from eMMC and installing only new OS in Legacy mode - unable since the windows installer says that the BIOS is unable to boot from sata drive (but this is not mentioned during UEFI install).

What is most wierd to me is that after I removed old system and have both drive clean I am also unable to install Windows back even on the eMMC drive in UEFI/Secure boot, the BIOS just doesn't see any device with bootloader (but still both drive are listed in BIOS). I am just stuck at the "no boot device". Only way to get this laptop working is to install Windows to eMMC in Legacy mode.

I tried also update bios to latest version in case there was some bug but it does not help at all, several USB drives, remaking the media with official creation tool and also Rufus etc.
Now I am stuck with one machine with stock W10 on eMMC in UEFI mode after fixing the bootloader and removing entry for the new OS, and the other with new W10 on eMMC in Legacy.

Am I missing something? All I want is just fresh W10 on SATA SSD and ignore the eMMC at all, now I don't even care if it will be in UEFI or Legacy mode.
What also bothers me is that in Legacy mode I can use both USB3.0 and 2.0 for install but in UEFI only 2.0 port work and see the flash drive.
Thanks for suggestion.

Answers

  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,246 Trailblazer
    Your legacy mode boot likely couldn't proceed because the SATA drive was still in GPT mode for a UEFI boot. There should be no reason why you aren't getting a good boot from the SATA SSD, other than something wrong with the partitioning or data. The easiest step from the first would have been to clone the eMMC to the new SATA, the use the boot menu to choose the SATA as the default boot drive. You are well past that though...
    Start with a working Windows install on the eMMC. There should be several small partitions on the drive without drive letters assigned. I'd expect on of them to be 100MB in size, with a FAT32 filesystem that holds the EFI image. Another will be close to 500MB in size that holds recovery software and a third will be larger, 1-10GB, that holds a recovery image. The reset of the drive will be the system partition C: drive. Once you are back to booting Windows from that install some cloning software (I last used Macrium Reflect, but there are plenty of others just as good). With the new SATA SSD installed run the clone software and clone the eMMC to the SATA, allowing it to only change the C: partition size to match the available space. When that is complete you can look to verify the partitions are all there and still the same size as on the eMMC, except the C: volume.
    Now, go into the BIOS and verify that the F12 boot menu is enabled. Save and exit then use F12 to boot into that menu. Choose the SATA drive as your boot drive and it should come up fine. When you have verified everything is working fire up Disk Management and wipe all partitions from the eMMC drive and create a single data partition. From here on out you should be booting from the SATA SSD.
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  • stehlajz
    stehlajz Member Posts: 2 New User
    billsey: Thanks for reply but it was not this case. Everything in bios and SSD was set correctly, I tried everything this morning without sucess so I eventualy gave up and decide to put the SSD in another computer and suprise suprise ... it won't boot either. So I tested brand new SSD from another manufacturer and this time it worked.

    Long story short after some digging and research I put both SSD trough low-level format and firmware upgrade they now work as system drive. Don't know what caused this, the SSD in every way behaved like they should and were used as regular ntfs storage drive next to the eMMC, just not worked as boot device.
  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,246 Trailblazer
    Good to k now you got it sorted. I suspect there was an issue with the firmware, and the update fixed that.
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