Where do I access RAM speed settings on Acer Predator Orion?

Craftys
Craftys Member Posts: 3 New User
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Hello!

I just purchased more ram to slot into my Acer Predator Orion (8th gen i7 version)

Prior to this, the 16gb preinstalled ram was running 2666 (1333Mhz) and therefore the overall system was at 2666. With the new installed Corsair vengeance @3200, it has for some reason decided to run the new pair of corsair at 2132 and thus downgraded everything to 2132.

See images below ***Note there are 4 slots. The Corsair is slotted into 1 and 3, the others came pre installed at 2 and 4





Seeing as prior to this it was running at 2666 and checking online the Mobo with this model was capable of running at 2666, I then looked for anywhere to change it but had no luck.

Anyone able to direct me to where I can change this? It isn't within the system bios (delete key on startup).

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  • bk227865
    bk227865 Member Posts: 9

    Tinkerer
    For a gaming system , the orion bios is a cruel joke. Forget about setting memory timings.
  • GotBanned
    GotBanned Member Posts: 654 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    This RAM thing is one of the most annoying things about these little boxes.

    Acer should tell their customers exactly which modules to buy or what to look for so that the memory modules run at the max supported speed. Updated QVL list, anyone? The correct answer is NOT "please contact Acer and buy [most likely hugely overpriced] RAM from us directly".
  • Craftys
    Craftys Member Posts: 3 New User
    bk227865 said:
    For a gaming system , the orion bios is a cruel joke. Forget about setting memory timings.

    Very true. I was asking my friends if they had any ideas and they were laughing at the settings and layout. There really isn't much you can do it seems, which as you said, for a gaming build is a extreme let down.


    GotBanned said:
    This RAM thing is one of the most annoying things about these little boxes.

    Acer should tell their customers exactly which modules to buy or what to look for so that the memory modules run at the max supported speed. Updated QVL list, anyone? The correct answer is NOT "please contact Acer and buy [most likely hugely overpriced] RAM from us directly".
    I am wondering why "standard" aka popular and widely used parts are such a headache. The fact that it provided such a big downgrade in speed when it is actually faster than the preinstalled is just annoying me. I really wish there was a customizable interface that was within the predator sense program or elsewhere.



  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,219 Trailblazer
    The motherboard/chipset don't support XMP profiled overclocking, and the memory you bought has a base speed of of 2133. That's why you are seeing the 2133 speed, all memory in a system runs at the speed of the slowest memory. Return it and purchase 2666 memory without XMP and you'll be able to run at full speed again. Note that memory speed is set by the chipset, not by the memory sticks, so 2666 is the correct speed for the system.
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  • Craftys
    Craftys Member Posts: 3 New User
    billsey said:
    The motherboard/chipset don't support XMP profiled overclocking, and the memory you bought has a base speed of of 2133. That's why you are seeing the 2133 speed, all memory in a system runs at the speed of the slowest memory. Return it and purchase 2666 memory without XMP and you'll be able to run at full speed again. Note that memory speed is set by the chipset, not by the memory sticks, so 2666 is the correct speed for the system.

    Well, seems like that will be the only way of doing it. Looking through all the different sticks of memory its hard to decipher which ones will have the speed I need. Most use the word "overclocked / overclocking" and really don't display the speeds without it. I thought I would have been alright with the 3200 mhz and now realize that most people buying ram will be putting it in builds that will support XMP. Are there any tricks to determining which ones will be running at 2666 without XMP profiles?

    The truth hurts sometimes but thank you for the answer!
  • Automan
    Automan Member Posts: 11

    Tinkerer
    A couple of years ago I’ve replaced the 2 banks of 16gb with 8x16gb made by Crucial. They have a XMP profile to work at higher frequency, but they have a jedec profile of 1333mhz too and they work at 2666 in my Orion 9000.
    The model is Ballistix Sport LT, code BLS16G4D26BFSB. By the way, any ram that list a jedec speed of at least 1333 should work, for example in the screen another 8gb module by crucial
  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,219 Trailblazer
    It is often even more confusing than you think... As Automan says, he bought memory that had a JEDEC profile of 1333MHz, but it actually runs at 2666MT/s. That's because it's in dual channel mode so does a double wide transaction for each clock. Most memory manufacturers will advertise his memory as 2666MT/s instead of 1333MHz, because everyone knows that 2666 is faster than 1333. :) As you can see from his CPU-z capture, his memory would be running at 3600MT/s if he could enable the XMP overclocking. He might have been able to get normal JEDEC DDR4-2666 memory for less than he paid for the XMP 3600.
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