Acer Aspire E 15 E5-575G-57D4 Windows 11 upgrade report

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Andrepartthree
Andrepartthree Member Posts: 27 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

This isn't really so much as a "question" and more so a "report" in case anyone happens to have the same model laptop out there (Acer Aspire E 15 E5-575G-57D4) and is wondering if you can upgrade it to Windows 11 given the looming October 2025 "upgrade to Win 11 or don't get security updates anymore" deadline that is approaching at the time I type this.

I followed the advice here

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/10/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-11-whether-your-pc-is-supported-or-not/

specifically the "Upgrading in place on a PC with secure boot and any kind of TPM" section … though in my case I found even after the registry edit what worked for me was downloading the Windows ISO file, letting file explorer mount it (if memory serves I believe simply double clicking on it causes it to be mounted on a virtual CD inside of Windows) and then double clicking on the setup file/command … other methods like say " windows 11 installation assistant" didn't work for me it just kept complaining that my CPU wasn't officially supported far as a Win 11 install .. but going to the setup command inside the Windows 11 ISO let me install Win 11 anyways, I got the "what needs your attention" warning screen and clicked on accept and the in place upgrade of Windows 11 proceeded.. afterwards I was able to download security updates and other Win 11 updates without any problems.

If you're going to do this you should however read this article

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/10/what-i-learned-from-3-years-of-running-windows-11-on-unsupported-pcs/#:~:text=Using%20it%20feels%20pretty%20normal&text=Depending%20on%20how%20you%20do,proven%20to%20be%20mostly%20unfounded.

While I'm happy to report that my Win 11 upgrade ended up with me having the latest version of Windows 11 I'm going to assume that when Microsoft updates to the next latest version of Win 11 I will NOT be prompted to update to it and that I'll have to manually install Win 11 again per the article above - this is important in order to have the most secure version of Windows for example that (hopefully) will be more "hacker proof" .. at that point I'm guessing you'll probably have to follow the advice given here

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-do-i-upgrade-my-windows-11-version-22h2-to/9e6037ad-b318-4166-93ec-40ca3677b6f6

and obviously of course you'll have to manually keep checking yourself to see when Microsoft releases a new version of Win 11 ..

I'd upgraded my laptop to 16 GB of ram a while ago and Win 11 still continues to function pretty much the same as the Win 10 it shipped with , not noticing much of a speed decrease between that and Win 10 far as system responsiveness and doing day to day stuff. I can't say what your experience would be like if you say had seven different programs up and running all at the same time which I don't bother doing …in theory this laptop can be upgraded to 32 GB according to various sources I've checked with but I haven't pulled the trigger as far as say 2400 speed ram (closest in speed to the native ram speed the laptop supports which is apparently 2133 ram ) which I imagine would be two sticks of ram each 16 GB , 2133 speed … which I've seen as cheap as $20 a stick used (plus say $6 shipping and handling, American) for Crucial RAM 16GB DDR4 2400 MHz CL17 Laptop Memory CT16G4SFD824A

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-16GB-Laptop-Memory-CT16G4SFD824A/dp/B019FRBHZ0/ref=asc_df_B019FRBHZ0?mcid=97d78063a9663c64ba6641096fa17570&hvocijid=14518674915853992041-B019FRBHZ0-&hvexpln=73&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=721245378154&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14518674915853992041&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9052064&hvtargid=pla-2281435178298&th=1

that's the amazon link I don't think putting an ebay link up will do much good given that the moment the ebay item sells out of stock the link isn't there anymore :) .. I saw it sold and shipped directly by amazon once, otherwise you have 3rd party sellers but at least there's the shipped by amazon part which typically means amazon handles customer service which in turn means returning for a refund should be fairly easy if you buy it and it doesn't work.

I used the crucial memory scanner to get info on the sticks of ram currently in the laptop

https://www.crucial.com/store/systemscanner

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  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 17,864 Trailblazer

    Hi, the Intel Core i5-7200U is not supported for Windows 11. Microsoft requires 8th-gen Intel processors or newer, which means your Aspire E 15 E5-575G-57D4 doesn't meet the standard compatibility list. Tweaking Windows registry and forcing Windows11 OS on this laptop, bypassing all Windows11 security restraints is not a good idea.

  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 14,790 Trailblazer

    Your Aspire E 15 E5-575G-57D4 laptop no matter what you do to it and how you modify it to work with Win-11, it does not have the 8th Gen cpu and the TPM vision 2.0 security chip that is required. Win-11 requires this TPM 2.0 chip which is a Trusted Platform Module (TPM) chip, which simply is a hardware component that adds an extra layer of security to a Windows computer. It creates a physical barrier protecting a device and user credentials from malware and attackers that threaten it and windows update have appropriate security updates in mind that your laptop has this chip.

    Hence and why your Aspire E5-575G does not have this chip and your laptops security is compromised. These chips are either integrated into the laptops motherboard which requires an appropriate upgrade if your laptop can be upgraded to this chip. So be aware of all this also, good luck and hope this helps you out further.

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  • BobSmith8591
    BobSmith8591 Member Posts: 2 New User

    I actually have this exact same laptop and back when it was on Windows 10 it did have the TPM chip and supported secure boot :) .. I know this because I ran the pc health check app you can download here

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/how-to-use-the-pc-health-check-app-9c8abd9b-03ba-4e67-81ef-36f37caa7844

    The only problem it had was with the Intel Core i5-7200U which admittely is not on the list of supported CPU processors for Win 11

    How much of a security risk is not Win 11 supported CPU? I guess this remains to be seen but my biggest concerns, TPM and Secure Boot, were already addressed even on Win 10 as Win 10 was saying via pc health check " Yep you've got that stuff " :)

    I did ask google search to help me out after you guys mentioned this after the upgrade to Win 11 and followed the instructions here

    https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+tell+if+secure+boot+and+tpm+enabled+windows+11&oq=how+to+tell+if+secure+boot+and+tpm+enabled+windows+11&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIHCAEQIRigATIHCAIQIRigATIHCAMQIRigATIHCAQQIRigATIHCAUQIRigATIHCAYQIRirAjIHCAcQIRirAtIBCDgzMjFqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    system information says "secure boot state on " so .. yay for that :)

    going off the google search results I also did this

    Checking TPM:
    Open PowerShell as Administrator: Search for "PowerShell" in the Start menu, right-click, and select "Run as administrator."
    Run the get-tpm command: Type get-tpm and press Enter.
    Check the TPM Status: The output will show information about your TPM, including its status. If it says "Ready," your TPM is enabled. If it's not enabled, you'll need to enable it in your BIOS settings.

    and it said "ready" across the board so looks like TPM is enabled too :)

    So the big question is - how much of a security risk is the unsupported CPU processor? I can (happily :) ) state I have been able to download Win 11 updates twice now - including security updates - since my upgrade.

    A big thank you to the two folks who posted here so far not only for your concern for some random stranger like me on the 'net (greatly appreciated :) ) but also to provide info for anyone else on the internet reading this post.. on top of that you also prompted me to do what I should have done in the first place, double check and makes sure secure boot and TPM was really enabled instead of just assuming it would happen after the Win 11 upgrade so much appreciated :)

  • BobSmith8591
    BobSmith8591 Member Posts: 2 New User

    Did a bit more research and found this google AI report

    https://www.google.com/search?q=security+risk+win+11+unsupported+cpu+but+supported+tpm+secure+boot&oq=security+risk+win+11+unsupported+cpu+but+supported+tpm+secure+boot&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDk4NTRqMGo0qAIAsAIB&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    so potential issues as far as system instability and lack of updates… but I found an interesting article here

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/is-microsoft-really-going-to-cut-off-security-updates-for-my-unsupported-windows-11-pc/

    the author seems to feel that it would basically be far too much work on microsoft's part to actively hunt for PC's without unsupported hardware (like say a CPU not on the approved list) and say "Nope this Win 11 PC doesn't get security updates anymore) .. if the link above doesn't work google search "zdnet is microsoft really going to cut off security updates for my unsupported windows 11 PC"

    the author of the zdnet article ed bott has an impressive resume here's a copy and paste of it from the article if you click on Ed's name which brings you to his bio

    "Ed Bott
    Senior Contributing Editor

    Bio Disclosure
    Ed Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than three decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications. He has served as editor of the U.S. edition of PC Computing and managing editor of PC World; both publications had monthly paid circulation in excess of 1 million during his tenure. He is the author of more than 25 books, including Windows 10 Inside Out (now in its 4th edition) and Windows 11 Inside Out (2023)."

    Here's the other consideration too.. of COURSE we'd all love to run out and buy a new Win 11 laptop or desktop PC that supports Win 11 right out of the box.. but in these hard economic times is this really an option for everyone? It may not be the ideal solution but I would argue if it's either "upgrade my laptop to Win 11 or no security updates".. maybe you might want to give it a shot. Technically you can pay $30 for a year's worth of security updates for Win 10 to microsoft but that only prolongs the situation. And if your economic situation is that bad you might not even have the $30 to begin with :(

    I would strongly, strongly recommend you do a google search for macrium reflect 7 free edition and have your security software (Windows Defender is free on your laptop if nothing else just have it scan whatever folder you downloaded it into) to make sure you're getting the "real" macrium reflect 7 free edition, install that and do a backup of Win 10 just in case the upgrade to Win 11 doesn't go as expected. Don't bother with Macrium Reflect 8 only because that locks you into a 30 day trial period (it's okay to let Macrium Reflect 7 update itself to a slightly newer version of 7 just say "no and don't ask me again" when it asks to upgrade to version 8)… though for the acer users on here with money to spend :) they have a great product with a great reputation online if you can afford to buy a lifetime license for their version 8 if it goes on sale say around black friday - or perhaps you have other backup solutions (I've heard bad things about Windows Backup but that was years ago maybe it's improved since then)

  • Andrepartthree
    Andrepartthree Member Posts: 27 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    So after reading all of this did some checking.. it's true that a lack of supported CPU means that you have no memory integrity .. here are some posts that shed some more info on it

    https://www.elevenforum.com/t/how-do-i-turn-on-memory-integrity.31202/

    https://www.elevenforum.com/t/memory-integrity-is-off-your-device-may-be-vulnerable.22932/

    some of the folks posting there are pretty much PC/Windows rockstars as far as I'm concerned who have been of enormous help to me in the past :) and they seem to lean towards it being off not being hugely detrimental .. on the other hand when I google search it a lot of websites are screaming "turn it on or you're in danger!"

    Here's where things get really interesting … there are people with hardware that SHOULD support memory integrity and yet they just can't get it to turn on for the life of them! There's an entire article about it here

    https://www.makeuseof.com/windows-11-memory-integrity-disabled/

    and if you google search "can't turn on memory integrity windows 11" you have a lot of complaints in the microsoft forums, MS advisors giving advice to turn it on and plaintive complaints that the advice is not working.. no idea if it falls into the "unattainable goal" territory at this point or not :P

    To be brutally honest in my case given it's a seven year old laptop going on eight years I just use it as a glorified e-reader and to surf the internet :P … there's absolutely no way I'm going to put important stuff on there like say my "real" email address (that is an email address with important stuff associated with it, financial stuff for example or the email address I use to shop online) or any important documents.. but of course in these hard economic times a seven year old laptop you have to force Windows onto may be your only choice if you can't afford a new PC, in which case I would argue " if you can force Win 11 it's better than no security updates at all come October 2025"…

    If you do fall into that category you can try to shore up your defenses so to speak by doing the following

    - bitwarden password manager.. it's free, highly recommended (do a google search for "review bitwarden password manager") and eases the recommended option of at least a 16 character string of utter nonsense for a password including symbols, different one for each and every website you use… sure you can use say google password manager for the same thing but if google password manager fails for some reason like it's been known to you have bitwarden as a backup (honestly sometimes both fail :P and you have to just reset the password)… it's a huge pain but mandatory in this day of hackers coming for your info and money

    - enable 2 factor authentication.. hopefully you're on a cell phone plan with unlimited texting but if not I'd argue it's worth the cost of that single text when necessary to get into a website, especially anything to do with financial stuff (banking, websites you order stuff from online like say amazon or walmart.. note that walmart will force you to enter a code texted to you every time you log off then back onto the walmart website)

    - passkeys.. my online research shows some bitter complaints about people say getting locked out of paypal for example using passkeys but there's a lot of people who are saying you can and should move to passkeys.. wired reports some hiccups far as passkeys not syncing across devices and other issues

    https://www.wired.com/story/stopped-using-passwords-passkeys/

    if you have a 7 year old laptop you probably don't have the cash for say a webcam good enough to serve as the face identifier associated with a passkey or a fingerprint reader so … I think you'd have to default to a pin code.. don't use the same pin code across all passkeys that's just asking for trouble.. so of course the question is where and how do you store the pin code for all the passkeys ? A computer tech expert buddy of mine I met online keeps such things on a text document on three different usb thumb drives and stores them in secret locations in his house, seriously :P .. which of course can come back to haunt you if someone breaks in and steals say your PC and finds the thumb drives.

    - if you live in the USA around Black Friday amazon has been known to offer Norton for up to twenty devices for $40, sometimes low as $30 or even less you can set a camelcamelcamel search to go off when it drops to what you can afford (look for Norton 360 Platinum on amazon) or for less than that price if you don't need it for 20 devices (that's more of a cover the entire family kind of deal).. again if you live in the USA office depot has been known to, again around Black Friday, offer a mcafee product key for unlimited devices for under $15 .. both are one year subscriptions and you absolutely positively have to remove the credit card info the subscriptions demand to get the product up and running (not okay behavior on their part that's corporate greed at it's worst… but the product will work fine even after removing the credit card info) which will also turn off any auto-renewing charge nightmares … PCmag gives both products a good rating .. technically Windows Defender is a free antivirus/security software package that comes with Windows and PC's review basically said " Well it's good for a free service but.. there are better free services and paid security software is even better"

    https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/microsoft-defender-antivirus

    https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-free-antivirus-protection

    Of course the problem is this means you have to cough up say $40 a year for a subscription to Norton.. I'd go for the $15 or so a year subscription to mcafee through office depot instead if money is tight but PC mag seems to feel a paid security software subscription is absolutely worth it.