Acer Power plan Vs Customer power plans, which provides better performance and efficiency?

Laekhan
Laekhan Member Posts: 5

Tinkerer

edited January 21 in Nitro Gaming

Good day! My inquiry pertains towards the 'acer' power plan under control panel. Based on my understanding, having a custom high performance, balanced and power saving power plan will differ internally on how it manages the system, beyond the advanced settings. Meaning that, even if the advanced settings are set equally within the custom plans, they will still behave differently due to the internal optimization on the system based on the target plan. My question is, does the 'acer' plan have internal optimizations tailored specifically for my device, where choosing best performance, balanced and best power efficiency (under power options in settings) proves to be better compared to custom created power plans in control panel, in essence of the acer plan being better optimized, more fan spin, higher TPWs?

1) I'm essentially comparing the system's performance and behavior between the acer power plan (best performance in power mode) and a custom high-performance power plan (TPW, fan curve, internal optimization), or is the 'acer' power plan just a reskinned 'balanced' power plan. Bear in mind this is without having nitrosense installed.

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As a follow up question, the latest version of Nitrosense has called off the feature of having two balanced options (balanced and acer optimized), and only has one balanced option now. My question is naturally I'm assuming Nitrosense overrides the system and in summary exhibits either the eco, balanced or performance modes. This means summarising nvidia and windows settings to a certain degree to cater towards the three options of eco, balanced and performance.

1) Is that assumption correct of Nitrosense overriding system options to create three modes of eco, balanced and performance?

2) Does balanced mode in Nitrosense equate to the maximum performance of the laptop without overclocking? Assuming that the power plan is set to 'acer' and best performance in power mode>settings and the laptop is plugged in.

Reason for the question is having Nitrosense installed often fluctuates my GPU TPW which im assuming is because its trying to max out as much as possible, compared to not having it installed with a steady wattage depending on the game. (30W - 55W with nitrosense with the same game at 47W steady without Nitrosense)

For Marvel Rivals for instance (i'm aware that the game maybe unoptimized), having Nitrosense uninstalled doesnt cause the CPU to spike to 100% and 99deg (with Nitrosense) compared to 85% 83deg (without Nitrosense). Loading times generally feel the same with both and gaming seem smoother without nitrosense.

~~ Apologies for the lengthy question, and i would deeply appreciate a response. Thank you~~

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  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 15,437 Trailblazer
    edited January 22 Answer ✓

    Hi, Window11 applies the three power management protocols independently: Modern Standby (registry), Power Plan (Control panel) and Power Mode in Power & Battery settings. Acer's Power Plan (Control Panel) customizes all 3 power protocols with code for each laptop model, best to leave that alone and only change the Power Mode in Power & Battery settings to Best Power Efficiency (recommended). Power management is constantly tweaked/amended by both Microsoft and Acer Support so update BIOS and your Windows version regularly and leave your power adapter plugged in 24/7 to get the best performance.

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  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 15,437 Trailblazer
    edited January 22 Answer ✓

    Hi, Window11 applies the three power management protocols independently: Modern Standby (registry), Power Plan (Control panel) and Power Mode in Power & Battery settings. Acer's Power Plan (Control Panel) customizes all 3 power protocols with code for each laptop model, best to leave that alone and only change the Power Mode in Power & Battery settings to Best Power Efficiency (recommended). Power management is constantly tweaked/amended by both Microsoft and Acer Support so update BIOS and your Windows version regularly and leave your power adapter plugged in 24/7 to get the best performance.

  • Laekhan
    Laekhan Member Posts: 5

    Tinkerer

    Very appreciative of the response. May I simply confirm my assumption that best efficiency will output varying performance levels tailored to what the laptop is currently used for, being efficient? Whether it be gaming which will be more aggressive and dormant for work? I assume so since the bios is literally tailored for that setting.

  • Laekhan
    Laekhan Member Posts: 5

    Tinkerer

    Very appreciative of the response. May I simply confirm my assumption that best efficiency will output varying performance levels tailored to what the laptop is currently used for, being efficient? Whether it be gaming which will be more aggressive and dormant for work? I assume so since the bios is literally tailored for that setting.

  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 15,437 Trailblazer

    Hi, that's correct with one caveat: Windows11 24H2 turns the screen off when idle in Best Power Efficiency mode even when set to never Sleep and never turn the screen off in Advanced Power settings, not sure if this an Acer Power Plan or Modern Standby issue.

  • Axxo
    Axxo Member, Ally Posts: 1,242

    Now, basic difference between both power modes is the CPU clock speed. You can test this in your own models whatever you'll read below.

    So, Balanced mode puts the CPU speed to 2.3 Ghz if your Processor Power Management is set to 99 or 98. If it's set to 100, then it'll be 2.4 GHz. If you play games in Balanced Mode with 98% Processor Power Management, you don't need any undervolt for any games. I'm currently playing AC Valhalla on High Settings and I get FPS between 55-60 with temps below 80 °C ( on average 75-78 °C) and clock speed will be 2.3 Ghz. That's a good sign because this temps are without undervolt. You can try this in your own laptop to believe me.

    Next, High Performance Mode, the CPU clock speed it set to 4.0 GHz even if you set your Processor Power Management to 98 or lower. This shoots my temps to 85-88 °C in AC Valhalla. This is without undervolt. Even if I turn on ThrottleStop, the temps eventually shoots upto 85 °C ( Maybe because ACV is a demanding game )

    Now about performance hit, You'll loose about 5-10 FPS in Balanced Mode, depending on the game. For example, I have RDR2 installed as well. On High Settings, I get 60 FPS in RDR2 in Balanced Mode ( Vsync is turned on and set to half ) and if I switch to High Performance Mode, I get 72 FPS on average. Temps in RDR2 are as follows

    Balanced : 72-75 °C. High Performance : 75-80 ° C.

    You may set your power plan accordingly now.

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  • Laekhan
    Laekhan Member Posts: 5

    Tinkerer

    Thank you very much. Yea ive seen this message before haha. For me personally, my performance is better without Nitrosense for some reason. Maybe its the added layer of ram usage or the more processing due to microsoft, nvidia and nitrosense conflicting? Im also just using an rtx 2050 so maybe its a little underpowered. The same games run better when i hv it uninstalled. Temps are good too.

  • Laekhan
    Laekhan Member Posts: 5

    Tinkerer

    Unfortunately, Ive noticed substantial performance increase using the performance power mode instead of best efficiency. I will stick with that for gaming. However, thank you.