acer predator Orion 5000-P05-650 - upgrades. how i can upgrade the ram and cooling as CPU temps high

LeftonRed

Hi I bought a Acer Predator Orion 5000- P05-650 roughly September last year and i was trying to find out some information regarding how i can upgrade the ram and cooling as the CPU temps are always in the high 90's when playing games and i would like to upgrade my ram from 16gb to 64gb

I've been though many of the discussions regarding the P05-650, however, the only thing i can see regarding the cooling is that the Noctua NH-U12A must be used (is there any water cooling systems that will work), - Also, is it easy to swap this over and does this cause any issues?

Regarding the RAM, I've checked my bios for the XMP, however, it does not have the option to turn XMP on. Can I buy any speed ram an use it in my computer or do i need to be looking for a specific speed?

Any recommendation will be greatly appreciated,

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Puraw

https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/707280/acer-predator-orion-5000-p05-650-upgrades-how-i-can-upgrade-the-ram-and-cooling-as-cpu-temps-high

Many installed a Noctua NH-U12A CPU cooler with very good results, but make sure you connect it to the correct slots:

https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/700595/cant-control-new-cpu-cooler-fan-speed-with-predator-sense-orion-5000-po5-650

As for upgrading RAM: There are 4 slots for 64GB total RAM, 16 GB maximum RAM per slot: DDR5 PC5-38400 4800MHz Non-ECC UDIMM memory and comes installed with 16GB memory. https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr5/ct16g48c40u5/ct21131298 Avoid modules with XMP profile like Corsair Vengeance 6000 it does not work, use standard JEDEC RAM.

StevenGen

https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/707280/acer-predator-orion-5000-p05-650-upgrades-how-i-can-upgrade-the-ram-and-cooling-as-cpu-temps-high

The PO5-650 desktop can be upgraded to the following ram specs as recommended by Acer and the most used community members cpu coolers are the smaller Noctua NH-U9S chromax black or the full-sized NS-U12S chromax black. Below are all the specs that you will need for the ram and what Acer recommends for this desktop. Good luck

PO5-650 ram specs

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GotBanned

Swapping the original HSF with a Noctua one will be an easy job if you follow the instuctions mentioned on this forum many times. Trying to replace it with an AIO will be a lot more difficult task. How will you power and control it? Where and how will you install the radiator? Will the tubes bend enough or be on the way/too short?

Just get that Noctua.

LeftonRed

Hi All,

Many thanks for the replies,

Ill pick up the Noctua Cpu cooler today,

https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/1281035#Comment_1281035

Will the crucial ram fit in the P05-650, as i can't see the option for the P05-650 on the crucial website? Also, does it make any difference if the ram doesn't have a heat sink? do crucial offer one that will fit the P05-650 with the heat sink?

Many thanks

Puraw

https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/1281081#Comment_1281081

The system only support 4400Mhz even when you plug in 4800MHz or higher modules. Crucial only lists 4800 MHz UDIMMs for the 5000 P05-640, RAM for 5000 PO5-640 and 5000 P05-650 are similar. The Crucial UDIMMs all have thermal stickers; you don't need heatsinks in a desktop.

chugzilla

https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/1281081#Comment_1281081

you will need to see if there is a BIOS update to enable XMP…that's what i had to do on mine then basically any speed memory can be used i was running 2x16@6200MHz.

chugzilla

they also claim we can't use more than 16 per Dimm slot well I'm using 2x24 in mine now and it works perfect.

billsey

Where did you get 24GB modules?

chugzilla

https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/1282055#Comment_1282055

from newegg 2x24@7200. the 7200 won't work on the acer mb but the 2x24@4400 does….

billsey

I didn't know anyone made 24GB modules, they are normal a multiple of two, so 8GB, 16GB, 32GB…

chugzilla

https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/1282947#Comment_1282947

yeah bill they make DDR5 in 24 and 48 and soon to be 64 gig dimms-sticks.

billsey

Odd… They must have enough fallout on the larger chips to do something in a mid size like that.

chugzilla

https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/1283210#Comment_1283210

well im no expert but it has to do with the amount of DDR5 motherboards can have now its as high as 192mb total and soon 256.

billsey

I wouldn't expect it to be a motherboard thing, the size limits are imposed by the number of address lines on the bus. Adding an address line doubles the amount of memory that can be supported, so historically sizes have always doubled with each generation. 256MB, 512MB, 1GB, 2GB, 4GB, 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, etc.. To release a size that is in between requires different circuitry on the DIMM itself, since it's got the address lines for 32GB on a 24GB stick and the addresses for 64GB on a 48GB stick. It might just be that the larger chips aren't readily available, so instead of using 8 memory chips on a DIMM they are using 12 (single sided), or instead of 16 they are using 24 (double sided). 128GB and 256GB DIMMs for servers have been out for a while already, so you would think for desktops, which are less complex since they aren't registered and don't have ECC, would be a slam dunk. I have 192GB on one of my servers here at home already, since it's running my email.