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Can you upgrade the CPU on the Predator Orion 5000 PO5-640

bakerayybakerayy Member Posts: 6 New User

I've currently got the i7 12700F and was wondering if i could upgrade to the i9 12900K or even i7 12700K and if it would be compatable with the motherboard.


Thanks.

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  • StevenGenStevenGen ACE Posts: 5,503 Pathfinder
    Answer ✓

    See here at all the 12 Gen cpu's specs and range that you can upgrade to, as all the higher performance cpu's are to the 14 cores i7-12800H or the i7-12800HE or the i7-12700K which has the highest turbo boost at 5GHz.

    For example, your OEM i7-12700F is a socket LGA1700 type cpu 12 cores / 20 threads /at normal frequency of 2.0GHz to a turbo 4.90 GHz cpu and runs on base power at 65 W and turbo power at 180 W, you can upgrade this to the higher spec socket LGA1700 type 12 cores / 20 threads / of the i7-12700K cpu, normal frequency of 3.60GHz to turbo 5.0GHz at base power 125 W and turbo power at 190 W, but and as you can see the i7-12700K runs allot hotter and the performance gain imo is not worth the K series hotter temps, as you will need a much better cpu cooler (like an AIO or a high end dry cpu heatsink/fan upgrade) and also to improve your case cross flow ventilation. Those are the choices that you have which I wouldent worry about especially fitting into a PO5-640 as you will never ever get any great performance advantages, keep your PO5-640 OEM and upgrade the ram and m.2 ssd as that is all it needs.

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  • StevenGenStevenGen ACE Posts: 5,503 Pathfinder
    Answer ✓

    See here at all the 12 Gen cpu's specs and range that you can upgrade to, as all the higher performance cpu's are to the 14 cores i7-12800H or the i7-12800HE or the i7-12700K which has the highest turbo boost at 5GHz.

    For example, your OEM i7-12700F is a socket LGA1700 type cpu 12 cores / 20 threads /at normal frequency of 2.0GHz to a turbo 4.90 GHz cpu and runs on base power at 65 W and turbo power at 180 W, you can upgrade this to the higher spec socket LGA1700 type 12 cores / 20 threads / of the i7-12700K cpu, normal frequency of 3.60GHz to turbo 5.0GHz at base power 125 W and turbo power at 190 W, but and as you can see the i7-12700K runs allot hotter and the performance gain imo is not worth the K series hotter temps, as you will need a much better cpu cooler (like an AIO or a high end dry cpu heatsink/fan upgrade) and also to improve your case cross flow ventilation. Those are the choices that you have which I wouldent worry about especially fitting into a PO5-640 as you will never ever get any great performance advantages, keep your PO5-640 OEM and upgrade the ram and m.2 ssd as that is all it needs.

  • GotBannedGotBanned Member Posts: 457 Skilled Specialist

    A bit off topic, but the performance uplift is really not worth the expense. Especially if all you do is game and you have something like 1440p or 4K monitor. The CPU you have now is very capable.

  • AlijohAlijoh Member Posts: 33 Enthusiast

    Hi. Can a 13th gen CPU be installed on the PO5-640 Motherboard? For future upgrades. Does the 13th gen CPUs have the same mounting/socket as the 12th gen?

    Thanks.

  • StevenGenStevenGen ACE Posts: 5,503 Pathfinder
    edited November 2022

    The new 13th Gen Intel Desktop Processors use the same LGA1700 sockets and require motherboards based on Intel® 700 Series Desktop Chipsets and the Intel 600 Series Desktop Chipsets. Seeing that the 12th Gens operate on the 600 Chipsets you might be able use this new 13th Gen but, there are some variables as the bios needs to be upgraded for the 13Th Gens to work on them, just like the AMD AM4 Ryzen 5000 cpu mobos needed a bios update to work with the new cpus and its the same with the new AM5 Ryzen 7000 cpu's that need a bios update also to be backward compatible.

  • NeoGeoNeoGeo Member Posts: 87 Fixer

    This is a great opportunity for the devs at ACER to provide bios updates for po5-640 and po7-640 to support the new gen of processors - innovating where current prebuild manufacturers are lacking.

  • GotBannedGotBanned Member Posts: 457 Skilled Specialist

    It sure would be, but by providing a new BIOS Acer would lose sales. Naturally I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't see this happening.

  • NeoGeoNeoGeo Member Posts: 87 Fixer

    I don't think they would lose sales, most sales would be from new customers or customers using other Acer products -

    As a potential Bios update would only affect the previous generation, it stands to reason that anyone with a 12th gen system would either a) not update their whole PC just for a processor generation b) Rather change the motherboard in the Orion series as a cheaper alternative or c) Build a whole system from scratch

    So each of the above doesn't account to a sale , however by providing a Bios update they pretty much guarentee anyone who bought a system is likely to go for another prebuilt machine from Acer in the future, where there's no backward compatibility option, as consumers don't forget. Also need to remember the cost of a 13th Gen ( in this instance ) processor will fall to the consumer and all Acer is doing is unlocking the Bios via update, so it's not at actual cost to them.

  • billseybillsey ACE Posts: 26,222 Trailblazer

    The are other considerations that have to be taken into account. The clock timings are different between the 12th gen and 13th gen, so if a 13th gen were dropped into a 12th gen motherboard, it would run slower than if it were in a 13th gen motherboard. Intel suggests sticking with the matching generations whenever possible. In many cases (less often these days, but always in the background) different generations will not work at all. The newest motherboards and chipsets have some flexibility in clock ranges, so it's possible they would support it. It does cost some engineering time, that doesn't directly result in additional sales, so that should be a consideration.

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  • NeoGeoNeoGeo Member Posts: 87 Fixer
    edited December 2022

    I agree with you there would be development time for any updates, then rolling them out safely, as with all bios updates there's always an inherent risk, only the people at ACER know if it's worth it.

    One thing to point out is the extreme versatility these systems give in terms of upgrading, so even if there wasn't a update, it would be easy to update the motherboard to a z790, and as it uses a standard form power supply that's an option too. I must point out if a motherboard was upgraded then a new license for windows would be needed, as the OS currently running is a oem version hardlocked to the board.

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