Changing SATA mode on Acer Aspire 5 A515-51G-37K9

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  • VyZi
    VyZi Member Posts: 55 Troubleshooter
    JackE said:
    It might be helpful if you could reveal what the error message was.
    Sure thing, while trying to boot either Windows 2000 or Windows XP 64x setup I get the "No boot device -- Insert boot disk and press any key" error, when trying Windows 7 64x, it actually boots the Windows 7 boot menu, but instantly drops a 0xc000000d error in the file "\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\BCD"
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,870 Trailblazer
    If the USB is MBR scheme, try another USB port and/or another USB stick. Also see if F12 boot option is present and enabled in Legacy mode.

    Jack E/NJ

  • VyZi
    VyZi Member Posts: 55 Troubleshooter
    edited August 2021
    JackE said:
    If the USB is MBR scheme, try another USB port and/or another USB stick. Also see if F12 boot option is present and enabled in Legacy mode.
    Tried that, and yeah F12 boot menu is turned on, nothing did, however I found out by some testing in VMs that the systems run on for example PIIX4 controllers, but not on AHCI (which of course is my controller) however, on the VM, in AHCI mode the setup at least tries to start and bluescreens, but my real laptop doesn't even try, it straight up gives me the "No boot device" in the BIOS, doubt changing the SATA mode would help as the laptop doesn't even try to boot from the USB, but maybe it would do something, maybe changing the SATA mode to Compatibility could help? But my laptop only has AHCI and RAID, so is that a game over?
  • VyZi
    VyZi Member Posts: 55 Troubleshooter
    VyZi said:
    JackE said:
    If the USB is MBR scheme, try another USB port and/or another USB stick. Also see if F12 boot option is present and enabled in Legacy mode.
    Tried that, and yeah F12 boot menu is turned on, nothing did, however I found out by some testing in VMs that the systems run on for example PIIX4 controllers, but not on AHCI (which of course is my controller) however, on the VM, in AHCI mode the setup at least tries to start and bluescreens, but my real laptop doesn't even try, it straight up gives me the "No boot device" in the BIOS, doubt changing the SATA mode would help as the laptop doesn't even try to boot from the USB, but maybe it would do something, maybe changing the SATA mode to Compatibility could help? But my laptop only has AHCI and RAID, so is that a game over?
    Also, yes the USB stick works correctly
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,870 Trailblazer
    If BIOS is set to legacy or UEFI-csm boot mode, an MBR FAT32 bootable USB stick should boot. If not, try to change the boot order or temporarily disconnect internal boot drive.

    Jack E/NJ

  • VyZi
    VyZi Member Posts: 55 Troubleshooter
    JackE said:
    If BIOS is set to legacy or UEFI-csm boot mode, an MBR FAT32 bootable USB stick should boot. If not, try to change the boot order or temporarily disconnect internal boot drive.
    Rufus doesn't let me choose FAT32 on MBR partitioning systems for some reason
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,870 Trailblazer
    That's because you've probably got it set to boot from UEFI mode machine. It must be set to boot from a machine set for Legacy BIOS mode or UEFI-csm overlay mode. If you still have problems, post a screenshot of your  Rufus USB iso setup screen.

    Jack E/NJ

  • VyZi
    VyZi Member Posts: 55 Troubleshooter
    JackE said:
    That's because you've probably got it set to boot from UEFI mode machine. It must be set to boot from a machine set for Legacy BIOS mode or UEFI-csm overlay mode. If you still have problems, post a screenshot of your  Rufus USB iso setup screen.
    Nah, set it to MBR Legacy BIOS/UEFI-csm, no luck tho, also after a bunch of minutes I've realized that the legacy mode doesn't boot a single system except for FreeDOS, doesn't even boot into the built-in Windows 10
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,870 Trailblazer
    Please post a screenshot of your  Rufus USB iso setup screen. Booting from a USB stick usually takes a long time. Some laptops can take 10-15mins to boot depending on the USB port and cpu.

    Jack E/NJ

  • VyZi
    VyZi Member Posts: 55 Troubleshooter
    So, everytime I try to get a MBR-only system (in this case 2000 and XP64x) Rufus let's me to set it only to NTFS, however when I try a system that can run both on MBR and GPT (7Pro64x in this case), it actually let's me set Fat32 or NTFS, and GPT or MBR, the Fat32 one actually boot (with the mentioned earlier 0xc000000d error which makes it impossible to install tho), on NTFS my machine doesn't even try to boot the systems, also to make all of them work I would need some way to trick the systems that I have a PIIX4 controller anyways probably







  • VyZi
    VyZi Member Posts: 55 Troubleshooter
    VyZi said:
    So, everytime I try to get a MBR-only system (in this case 2000 and XP64x) Rufus let's me to set it only to NTFS, however when I try a system that can run both on MBR and GPT (7Pro64x in this case), it actually let's me set Fat32 or NTFS, and GPT or MBR, the Fat32 one actually boot (with the mentioned earlier 0xc000000d error which makes it impossible to install tho), on NTFS my machine doesn't even try to boot the systems, also to make all of them work I would need some way to trick the systems that I have a PIIX4 controller anyways probably







    So Fat32 drives work, however I can't get anything below 7 to set to Fat32 in Rufus, and I would need to somehow trick the systems that my SATA Controller is PIIX4
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,870 Trailblazer
    >>> however I can't get anything below 7 to set to Fat32 in Rufus,>>>>

    WinXP & Win98 isos can certainly be set to MBR FAT32 in Rufus, just like Win7. If you're have issues do this, then you may have to change other Rufus settings in order to have an MBR FAT32 boot iso stick.

    And just to be clear as mentioned earlier, the BIOS can only read and boot from a FAT32 formatted installation stick or a FAT32 formatted boot partition on an internal boot drive. The BIOS can't read the NTFS format, only WindowsOS can read it. Please post a RUFUS screenshot of the isos below Win7 that you're having problems with.


    Jack E/NJ

  • VyZi
    VyZi Member Posts: 55 Troubleshooter
    edited September 2021
    JackE said:
    >>> however I can't get anything below 7 to set to Fat32 in Rufus,>>>>

    WinXP & Win98 isos can certainly be set to MBR FAT32 in Rufus, just like Win7. If you're have issues do this, then you may have to change other Rufus settings in order to have an MBR FAT32 boot iso stick.

    And just to be clear as mentioned earlier, the BIOS can only read and boot from a FAT32 formatted installation stick or a FAT32 formatted boot partition on an internal boot drive. The BIOS can't read the NTFS format, only WindowsOS can read it. Please post a RUFUS screenshot of the isos below Win7 that you're having problems with.



    Ye gotha, I cannot set 2000 and XP64x to Fat32 tho, tried to get a screen with the full dropdown menu but Lightshot didn't work in the Rufus window for some reason (and of course after clicking off, the dropdown closes)
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,870 Trailblazer
    Forget lightshot. Simply use printscreen key to send it to the clipboard. Then paste it and save it as a JPG with any simple imaging program like Paint.

    Jack E/NJ

  • VyZi
    VyZi Member Posts: 55 Troubleshooter
    edited September 2021
    Aight, so after a bit of research I found out Rufus does it on some machines for any reasons and afaik there is no way over that bug, I'll maybe try YUMI now, I don't really like GRUB but this seems like the only option now, plus it's a multiboot bootloader so at least I won't need a second laptop for putting another ISOs on Rufus, if you maybe know a way to get around that NTFS option only bug in Rufus just hmu, I prefer Rufus over YUMI to be honest, because it's like you boot Windows straight from a CD/DVD
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,870 Trailblazer
    What machine are you using? I haven't heard of this Rufus bug. You can also use DD command from the terminal prompt to make the boot stick. More reliable than the Windows or Linux GUI tools.

    Jack E/NJ

  • VyZi
    VyZi Member Posts: 55 Troubleshooter
    Acer Aspire 5 A515-51G-37K9

    I think I just made pretty huge progress, as all the setups work! But remember about the bluescreen I told ya? Yea, I would somehow need to switch to Compatibility in SATA mode, otherwise the setup bluescreens at the Starting Windows... part, the only options I have is AHCI and RAID With Optane, so is that a game over?
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,870 Trailblazer
    You want AHCI for the SATA mode. You can press Ctrl+S to see if IDE mode appears.

    Jack E/NJ

  • VyZi
    VyZi Member Posts: 55 Troubleshooter
    edited September 2021
    Unfortunately nothing happened, still only AHCI and RAID With Optane, I've did alot of trial and error, all the setups boot almost perfectly, but Windows 2000 and XP 64x still have the bluescreen which will be impossible to avoid without Compatibility/IDE, Windows 7 setup boots but can't find DVD drivers, Windows 7 should be pretty easy to fix, but it seems that Win2000 and XP is a game over
  • VyZi
    VyZi Member Posts: 55 Troubleshooter
    edited September 2021
    It seems to be YUMI's fault a bit too, also tried slipstreaming drivers but still no luck, and I can't get Windows 7 to detect the drivers for some reason