Acer Nitro 5 AN515-53 Freezing/Stuttering when doing ANYTHING

sri369

ShangWang said:

Just making sure you don't think it will cause any incomplete update if I shutdown instead of restarting?

If fast boot is turned off, its the same either approach.

ShangWang

sri369 said:

ShangWang said:

Just making sure you don't think it will cause any incomplete update if I shutdown instead of restarting?

If fast boot is turned off, its the same either approach.

Also if you know about throttlestop, what do the asterisks beside the benchmark score mean?
https://prnt.sc/13b5cbv
When I plug in my laptop it's there, but when it's on battery it isn't there.

sri369

No idea, i am older version (8.5) and it does not have asterixes.

ShangWang

sri369 said:

No idea, i am older version (8.5) and it does not have asterixes.

Okay, no problem.
Just wondering, how much page filing would you put for a 250GB SSD and 1TB HDD with 16GB of RAM?

sri369

ShangWang said:

sri369 said:

No idea, i am older version (8.5) and it does not have asterixes.

Okay, no problem.
Just wondering, how much page filing would you put for a 250GB SSD and 1TB HDD with 16GB of RAM?

Lol, you want to copy mine? Here's mine, spread across two partitions on the same SSD.





If you add up both, it is 4 GB min and 8 GB max.

ShangWang

sri369 said:

ShangWang said:

sri369 said:

No idea, i am older version (8.5) and it does not have asterixes.

Okay, no problem.
Just wondering, how much page filing would you put for a 250GB SSD and 1TB HDD with 16GB of RAM?

Lol, you want to copy mine? Here's mine, spread across two partitions on the same SSD.





If you add up both, it is 4 GB min and 8 GB max.

Thanks, do you only have the SSD? I thought the page file would write on it and reduce the life span so a lot of people put the majority of it on an HDD instead.

sri369

ShangWang said:

Thanks, do you only have the SSD? I thought the page file would write on it and reduce the life span so a lot of people put the majority of it on an HDD instead.

SSD for swap - RAM is enough most of the time and so SWAP is used only occasionally. Also, swap is better on SSD since its faster, so system is more zipper.

Look at the TB written to the two SSDs on my laptop (I have 2 SSD and 1 HDD in it). HDD - used exclusively for documents and backups.

Life at 95%.
SSD used for about 3 years now.


Life at 99%.
SSD used for about 7 months now.


I frequently install and uninstall games - since I prefer leaving atleast 40% free space on SSD at any point of time - more free space means more sectors to write to - translates to longer life.

At the above rate, I write about 750 GB to 1 TB per month. So worst case, 1 TB a month is about 12 TB per year, or 60 TB in 5 years. And 5 years - pretty much change laptop - so again back with a new SSD in it. Simple as that.

Just make sure you leave atleast 40% space free on SSD at all times to increase its life - SDD, unlike hard disk, spreads writes over segments that are least written to help wear it out evenly.

ShangWang

sri369 said:

ShangWang said:

Thanks, do you only have the SSD? I thought the page file would write on it and reduce the life span so a lot of people put the majority of it on an HDD instead.

SSD for swap - RAM is enough most of the time and so SWAP is used only occasionally. Also, swap is better on SSD since its faster, so system is more zipper.

Look at the TB written to the two SSDs on my laptop (I have 2 SSD and 1 HDD in it). HDD - used exclusively for documents and backups.

Life at 95%.
SSD used for about 3 years now.


Life at 99%.
SSD used for about 7 months now.


I frequently install and uninstall games - since I prefer leaving atleast 40% free space on SSD at any point of time - more free space means more sectors to write to - translates to longer life.

At the above rate, I write about 750 GB to 1 TB per month. So worst case, 1 TB a month is about 12 TB per year, or 60 TB in 5 years. And 5 years - pretty much change laptop - so again back with a new SSD in it. Simple as that.

Just make sure you leave atleast 40% space free on SSD at all times to increase its life - SDD, unlike hard disk, spreads writes over segments that are least written to help wear it out evenly.

Thanks for sharing your optimization! When you mean two partitions you meant the two separate SSDs you have right?
As for an HDD that is only used for storage how much page filing would you have?
When you mean write you're talking about the page filing not installing files right?

sri369

ShangWang said:

Thanks for sharing your optimization! When you mean two partitions you meant the two separate SSDs you have right?
As for an HDD that is only used for storage how much page filing would you have?
When you mean write you're talking about the page filing not installing files right?

Nope, they may or may not be on the same SSD - in this case I am using two partitions on the same SSD.

Below are my disks and partitions. Page files are on C and I. And quite honestly, I don't even care about how much data page file writes. Like I said, with all this said and done, I write a max of 1 TB a month.

ShangWang

sri369 said:

ShangWang said:

Thanks for sharing your optimization! When you mean two partitions you meant the two separate SSDs you have right?
As for an HDD that is only used for storage how much page filing would you have?
When you mean write you're talking about the page filing not installing files right?

Nope, they may or may not be on the same SSD - in this case I am using two partitions on the same SSD.

Below are my disks and partitions. Page files are on C and I. And quite honestly, I don't even care about how much data page file writes. Like I said, with all this said and done, I write a max of 1 TB a month.

I see, thanks.
For your HDD what would your minimum be since you don't plan to swap on them? How much do you put for games?
Or do you just set those to automatic?

sri369

ShangWang said:

I see, thanks.
For your HDD what would your minimum be since you don't plan to swap on them? How much do you put for games?
Or do you just set those to automatic?

All information you asked is a scroll up, right on this page, in pictures.

ShangWang

sri369 said:

ShangWang said:

I see, thanks.
For your HDD what would your minimum be since you don't plan to swap on them? How much do you put for games?
Or do you just set those to automatic?

All information you asked is a scroll up, right on this page, in pictures.

Sorry it wasn't clear to me if you put no paging file on the rest of the drives, I read that it's important to have at least some paging on them in case of a crash dump. I'm assuming you only have 4GB total of page filing on your two SSDs to even out the work and for better performance, but none is on your game drive?

ShangWang

sri369 said:

ShangWang said:

I see, thanks.
For your HDD what would your minimum be since you don't plan to swap on them? How much do you put for games?
Or do you just set those to automatic?

All information you asked is a scroll up, right on this page, in pictures.

Actually earlier on you said you had 6GB of page filing so I'm guessing you put 2GB for games as well to even the writing.
For your HDD's you at least have 16mb for their page filing correct?

sri369

ShangWang said:

Actually earlier on you said you had 6GB of page filing so I'm guessing you put 2GB for games as well to even the writing.
For your HDD's you at least have 16mb for their page filing correct?

I split my page file between two partitions of SSD for even wear, that is all. You need one page file, and that's it. You do not need one on every drive.

ShangWang

sri369 said:

ShangWang said:

Actually earlier on you said you had 6GB of page filing so I'm guessing you put 2GB for games as well to even the writing.
For your HDD's you at least have 16mb for their page filing correct?

I split my page file between two partitions of SSD for even wear, that is all. You need one page file, and that's it. You do not need one on every drive.

Thank you, from what I understand as long as you put the page file on the system drives you can put no page file on the rest?

sri369

ShangWang said:

sri369 said:

ShangWang said:

Actually earlier on you said you had 6GB of page filing so I'm guessing you put 2GB for games as well to even the writing.
For your HDD's you at least have 16mb for their page filing correct?

I split my page file between two partitions of SSD for even wear, that is all. You need one page file, and that's it. You do not need one on every drive.

Thank you, from what I understand as long as you put the page file on the system drives you can put no page file on the rest?

That is correct.

ShangWang

sri369 said:

ShangWang said:

sri369 said:

ShangWang said:

Actually earlier on you said you had 6GB of page filing so I'm guessing you put 2GB for games as well to even the writing.
For your HDD's you at least have 16mb for their page filing correct?

I split my page file between two partitions of SSD for even wear, that is all. You need one page file, and that's it. You do not need one on every drive.

Thank you, from what I understand as long as you put the page file on the system drives you can put no page file on the rest?

That is correct.

Thank you very much, I have one more inquiry about page filing.
I'm not sure how much page filing is actually done. I read to open performance monitor and add page filing usage % it shows average 1.391% which is about 112mb from my 8GB minimum.

https://prnt.sc/13cwnrf

In my task manager it shows 6.9 GB committed, where only 4.9GB is used in physical ram. If the extra 2GB come from page filing it does not add up to calculation. Is there something else contributing to committed memory?
https://prnt.sc/13cwpk4

sri369

@ShangWang
Don't go into too much detail and spoil your head, I mean seriously. Page is recommended to be 1.5 times the size of RAM at the max point. Set it to that and forget about page file.

If you still want to go into details, you might want to google :-)

ShangWang

sri369 said:

@ShangWang
Don't go into too much detail and spoil your head, I mean seriously. Page is recommended to be 1.5 times the size of RAM at the max point. Set it to that and forget about page file.

If you still want to go into details, you might want to google :-)

Yep, I will sometime, it's just a bit hard to find and extract the information I want haha thanks for the info!