BOOT order AN515-54. I cloned my 2nd 1tbSSD. How do I boot from "Disk 2" without dismantling laptop?

TonyWenz
TonyWenz Member Posts: 19 Troubleshooter
edited November 2023 in 2020 Archives
So after much reading and experimenting (thanks for all the help from this forum everone...) I now have cloned My Samsung PRO 980 1TB. It is up and running with about half the reported  top speeds, but i can live with that until Samsung decide to release a driver . (Fancy selling hardware without a driver in this modern age! - But that is another (ongoing) story)
So I now have 2 drives. I want to run from the new 1TB SSD, but i do not want to pull the original SSD out for a few weeks - just to be sure it is running smoothly. I went to Bios, and it showed 2 bootable drives ie '1' & '2'. I used the F5 key to switch positions. I 'Exit & Save'... and my laptop boots up. But i really am not sure if it made a change or not. Is there any way to check what drive I am booting from (C or D)? In bios they both 'show-up' the same as they are clones. 
tia 
tony

Answers

  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 12,062 Trailblazer
    edited October 2020

    First, you have to take your previous old “Boot Drive” OUT which is the Micron 2200 MTFDHBA512TCK I presume? So that the No1 Boot Drive is assigned and so that your newly cloned SSD 980 PRO 1TB can boot from BIOS boot No1. You can’t have both dives installed as the Win-10 OS will always boot from the old boot drive and your Micron 2200 MTFDHBA512TCK. To check which is your "Boot drive" go to Disk Management and you should see which is your boot drive, it should have (Healthy (Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, basic Data Partition) as one of the formats of your Boot Drive. 

    After and ff you want to format the old “Boot Drive” the Micron 2200 MTFDHBA512TCK? Then you either do it externally with an M.2 PCIe adaptor to USB or install it after boot and do it through “Device Manager” or right click on the (designated drive letter?) in “File Explore” and use the “Format”.

    With a Samsung SSD’s “you don’t need a driver”! Some of the older SSD’s still utilise the “Rapid Mode” that is enabled with their “Magician Software” but you don’t need that as its not required for the new 980 PRO, the “Magician Software” is only used as a test and firmware update for your 980 PRO.

    Now, the specs of your 980 PRO 1TB offers somewhat higher speeds than the 256GB and 512GB. The 1TB drive tops out at up to 7GB/s reads with up to 5GB/s writes, which is rarely achieved but and before doing anything and/or testing your 1TB 980 PRO make sure that the “TRIM” is enabled in Win-10? As that will speed your SSD up. You can do this by going to cmd/as administrator and use these commands:

    1. To check if TRIM is enabled type in: fsutil behavior query DisableDeleteNotify
    2. To enable TRIM type in: fsutil behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0

    Btw and a short spec outline on the Samsung 980 PRO, these drives are outfitted with a brand-new controller, dubbed Elpis” in addition to the aforementioned native PCI Express 4.0 interface, the new Elpis controller supports 4x the number of maximum queues as the Phoenix controller used on the 970 series (32 vs. 128). And the Elpis controller is manufactured on a leading-edge 8nm process. The Elpis controller supports all of the features you’d expect from a modern SSD, like TRIM, garbage collection, S.M.A.R.T., etc., in addition to various encryption technologies as well. The 1TB drive feature 512MB to 2GB of discrete LPDDR4 DRAM cache. The 1TB drive has 1GB on on-board DRAM. 

  • TonyWenz
    TonyWenz Member Posts: 19 Troubleshooter
    Thank you so much for your comprehensive reply. I guess I have to pull the laptop apart again, and move the Samsung 980 PRO into slot 1...
    As for the Magician Software (and Samsung NVMe driver), I thought it would be wise to keep everything in the Samsung family, sort of a plug-and-play method. As you point out, this thinking of mine is wrong. I used Macrium to clone the drive. It uses the generic windows driver with the RST Premium with Optane bios. (I tried AHCI = Epic Fail!)
    I followed the cmd instructions above in the command line (That a 'zero' at the end right?)
    It stays as: 'NTFS = 0 (Disabled) RefS = 0 (Disabled).  I could not get anything to change (I copied and pasted your instructions to be sure....- no joy.)
    This is what I am currently getting as far as speeds:
  • TonyWenz
    TonyWenz Member Posts: 19 Troubleshooter
    StevenGen said:

    ...Btw and a short spec outline on the Samsung 980 PRO, these drives are outfitted with a brand-new controller, dubbed Elpis” in addition to the aforementioned native PCI Express 4.0 interface, ...



    Should I return the  980 PRO SSD (PCI Express 4.0) back and get the 970 Evo Plus (PCI Express 3.0) which has no issues?