E5-576G NVME and expansion RAM

verds22
verds22 Member Posts: 6 New User
edited November 2023 in 2020 Archives
Hello, I was wondering if my laptop can support an nvme boot drive. Additionally I was looking for some assistance with finding compatible ram to add to my machine

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  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 12,773 Trailblazer
    edited October 2020 Answer ✓
    verds22 said:
    Hello, I was wondering if my laptop can support an nvme boot drive. Additionally I was looking for some assistance with finding compatible ram to add to my machine
    Your E5-576G can’t have NVMe type M.2’s SSD's as they are a different type of M.2 SSD as they have an “M keyed M.2 connector" and won't fit. Your max memory on your E5-576G is 16GB of either DDR3 or DDRL3-1600 SODIMM and even DDR3-1866 PC3-14900 type RAM, you have 2x slots (2 banks of 1) and comes with OEM memory of 8GB removable. Your drive form factor is either 2.5inch or M.2 with an interface of SATA 3 - 6GB/s at "B&M keyed connectors" of 3D NAND M.2 Type 2280 Internal SSD. You can also find out your max RAM by doing a cmd prompt “Maximum RAM Capacity of Your Computer” look here: https://www.maketecheasier.com/how-to-find-out-maximum-ram-capacity-of-computer/


    M.2 SSD with B&M keyed connectors

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  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 12,773 Trailblazer
    edited October 2020 Answer ✓
    verds22 said:
    Hello, I was wondering if my laptop can support an nvme boot drive. Additionally I was looking for some assistance with finding compatible ram to add to my machine
    Your E5-576G can’t have NVMe type M.2’s SSD's as they are a different type of M.2 SSD as they have an “M keyed M.2 connector" and won't fit. Your max memory on your E5-576G is 16GB of either DDR3 or DDRL3-1600 SODIMM and even DDR3-1866 PC3-14900 type RAM, you have 2x slots (2 banks of 1) and comes with OEM memory of 8GB removable. Your drive form factor is either 2.5inch or M.2 with an interface of SATA 3 - 6GB/s at "B&M keyed connectors" of 3D NAND M.2 Type 2280 Internal SSD. You can also find out your max RAM by doing a cmd prompt “Maximum RAM Capacity of Your Computer” look here: https://www.maketecheasier.com/how-to-find-out-maximum-ram-capacity-of-computer/


    M.2 SSD with B&M keyed connectors
  • verds22
    verds22 Member Posts: 6 New User
    Hello Steven, that was very informative and helpful; thank you!
    I'm not sure if my RAM is DDR3 or another form, but i figure I can find out by opening the chassis. Is it possible or recommended to buy an additional ram stick with a higher speed than my current ram stick and core clock. My logic is that the additional speed of the ram would have data readily available for the cpu. I'm not sure if this would actually do anything or be possible considering the speed of my current ram stick is 1600. 
    I'd like to upgrade my SSD if my machine will accept a faster SSD. the current read and write speeds for my ssd are ~.5GB/s. If i can max out the sata III and install a boot drive with speeds near 6GB/s i'd like to do so. How can i find out if that's possible with my machine?
  • verds22
    verds22 Member Posts: 6 New User
    To clarify: The ssd is a B&M key. The socket is B key. So if i find a B key M.2 sata III drive with read/write speeds closer to 6Gb/s, will it function to my expectations? 
  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 12,773 Trailblazer
    edited October 2020
    verds22 said:
    To clarify: The ssd is a B&M key. The socket is B key. So if i find a B key M.2 sata III drive with read/write speeds closer to 6Gb/s, will it function to my expectations? 

    Your ram for your laptop is the DDR3 or DDRL3 at max 16GB, it’s what is recommended for your laptop, also, you CAN GO UP TO DDR3-1866MHz PC3-14900 speed BUT don’t mix the two e.g. one by DD3-1600Mhz and one DDR3-1866MHz as your ram will always work to its lowest common denominator speed and not in DUAL mode, always put the same manufacturer, speed and timings pairs of ram sticks into your ram slots.

    You can’t put anything faster than SATA 3 6GB/s SSD and/or a “B&M” keyed slot into your laptop, a “B” keyed M.2 SSD doesn’t work and doesn’t fit (you can't just take the B and think that it fits =) ) as the B&M has two different ends to the “B” key. All NVMe M.2’s are “M” keyed not “B’ keyed. Also if you want to increase the SATA 3 speed use the “TRIM” command at cmd prompt as administrator and enter this command: fsutil behavior set DisableDeleteNotify 0 as this will give you at least 30% more speed to the OEM SSD, its built into Win-10. This is an AS SSD-Benchmark test of a Samsung 850 EVO 2.5” SATA 3 6GB/s SSD and its 3 years old and has been used daily (its not new) with "TRIM OFF" and "TRIM ON" so you can see the speed differences, don't worry about NVMe as SATA 3 is fast enough unless you are really using it for special applications.

    What I woulddo is increase your RAM to 16GB at 2x DDR3-1866MHz sticks same manuf, speed and timing and put an M.2 SATA 3 6GB/s SSD and use "TRIM" with the M.2 and if you have a 2.5" SSD it will apply to that too (TRIM does not apply to a spinner HDD) simple and you will have a much better/faster laptop than what you have now!


                                TRIM OFF                                                                  TRIM ON


  • verds22
    verds22 Member Posts: 6 New User
    Hello Steven. Again, thank you; you're very helpful and informative. I will definitely consider adding to my ram and using the trim function on my drive. Do you have to have the same manufacturer's ram sticks? I was planning on matching the kingston that's already in there, but i'm curious about how different brand, speed and timings effect the processes.

    More importantly, i think my m.2 slot is an M key not a b key. It looks like it has five pins and not 6 pins. I attached some pictures of my devices. Are you positive the ram speed is 1866MHz?

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