UPGRADED MY P03-600 (need help)

lucif3r
lucif3r Member Posts: 5

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edited February 2024 in 2020 Archives
hello everyone.. i just bought predator orion 3000 

Specs
CPU: I7-9700K
GPU:RTX 2080
Rams: 40gbs ( i added extra it was 16gb)

so before buying this gaming pc i was reading the forums looking for issues and such things the most issue was heating + fan noise  .. so i ended up buying cpu fan + exhaust fan Pwm
the cpu fan is Noctua NH-L9i i installed it perfectly + rear exhaust fan is Evercool 92mm fan speed is 2000-5000 rpm my temps for cpu is pretty good...

my main issue is in predator sense i tried to increase the front fan speed.. since its the only fan i can control .... so the moment i increase it to 100% the exhaust fan goes loud also and its too loud and annoying ...is it possible to control just the front fan the stock one? or should i replace my exhaust fan with less rpm speed since the predator sense front fan is kinda linked with the exaust,,,

im so sorry for my question because im newbie here :P hope you have some patient with my questions...

last question is it possible to change my front fan cooler? and what kind of front cooler do you suggest so i can notice difference and is it 3pin or 4pin ...and  i would be glad if you recommended a brand of cooler..

yes and i forgot my gpu temps when i benchmark is 83C everything set on ultra but still i believe its high .. so thats why i was thinking of changing the front cooler if it helps to cooldown the gpu

going to share the photos of my pc upgrades ,,,





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  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 35,029 Trailblazer
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    No, it just sounds like it's backwards from what I expected. That's not an issue. An issue would be if both fans were trying to move air into the case or both were trying to pull air out of the case. Pushing from the outside in front and pulling it back out in the rear should work great. The whole key is to facilitate the movement of clean, cool air through the case.
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  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 35,029 Trailblazer
    When both fans are plugged into the same connector any speed control on one will also control the speed on the second. You just have the two fan connectors, the CPU-FAN and SYS_FAN, so those two are tied together.
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  • lucif3r
    lucif3r Member Posts: 5

    Tinkerer
    billsey said:
    When both fans are plugged into the same connector any speed control on one will also control the speed on the second. You just have the two fan connectors, the CPU-FAN and SYS_FAN, so those two are tied together.
    yea thats what i figured out thanks for the reply,,, so about the noise when fan speed is 100% cant i reduce it ? and if i changed the front fan is it possible to get another one with higher air flow? i need to cool down my gpu rtx 2080 blower :) since i feel the front fan doesnt give high airflow to cool down the gpu rtx 2080
  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 35,029 Trailblazer
    There are lots of factors that affect cooling. You need to look at where the heat is and where the air is flowing. Unless the fans on the GPU have enough clearance to move the air, they won't be very effective. You should either have some ducting that forces air in to them or enough clearance between the GPU and case to allow free movement of air. My guess is the rear system fan you have is a pusher, pushing outside air into the case and the front system fan is a puller, pulling the air back out. In concert they should do a good job of moving air from the back to the front, but that may still give areas where there's not a lot of air movement, due to blockages that restrict air flow in certain areas. You want air moving freely over the CPU cooler, so that fan can move plenty of air through the heatsink fins, and you want air moving freely past the GPU fans, so they can do the same.
    Noise is a different matter. In general a fan that moves a lot of air will be noisier than one that moves less air. The engineers behind fans often go to great lengths to move air evenly, so it doesn't cause the turbulence that makes the noise. Look for fans that are rated quiet, but with lots of CFM. The cheap ones might have one but not the other.
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  • lucif3r
    lucif3r Member Posts: 5

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    billsey said:
    There are lots of factors that affect cooling. You need to look at where the heat is and where the air is flowing. Unless the fans on the GPU have enough clearance to move the air, they won't be very effective. You should either have some ducting that forces air in to them or enough clearance between the GPU and case to allow free movement of air. My guess is the rear system fan you have is a pusher, pushing outside air into the case and the front system fan is a puller, pulling the air back out. In concert they should do a good job of moving air from the back to the front, but that may still give areas where there's not a lot of air movement, due to blockages that restrict air flow in certain areas. You want air moving freely over the CPU cooler, so that fan can move plenty of air through the heatsink fins, and you want air moving freely past the GPU fans, so they can do the same.
    Noise is a different matter. In general a fan that moves a lot of air will be noisier than one that moves less air. The engineers behind fans often go to great lengths to move air evenly, so it doesn't cause the turbulence that makes the noise. Look for fans that are rated quiet, but with lots of CFM. The cheap ones might have one but not the other.
    hmmm thanks for the reply ... but this sentence what you said (My guess is the rear system fan you have is a pusher, pushing outside air into the case and the front system fan is a puller)

    well my rear fan i think its pulling the air out of the case ;s and the front is pushing the air inside the case? when i put my hands on the rear of the case i feel a lot of air ... do you suggest switching my rear fan position? or did i misunderstood you?
  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 35,029 Trailblazer
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    No, it just sounds like it's backwards from what I expected. That's not an issue. An issue would be if both fans were trying to move air into the case or both were trying to pull air out of the case. Pushing from the outside in front and pulling it back out in the rear should work great. The whole key is to facilitate the movement of clean, cool air through the case.
    Click on "Like" if you find my answer useful or click on "Yes" if it answers your question.
  • lucif3r
    lucif3r Member Posts: 5

    Tinkerer
    billsey said:
    No, it just sounds like it's backwards from what I expected. That's not an issue. An issue would be if both fans were trying to move air into the case or both were trying to pull air out of the case. Pushing from the outside in front and pulling it back out in the rear should work great. The whole key is to facilitate the movement of clean, cool air through the case.
    thanks again for  your awesome replies but i feel my rear exhaust is sucking more air and the front fan (original predator fan is not giving enough air so i might either replace the front with higher air flow to balance the air thats getting in and getting out)
  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 35,029 Trailblazer
    Yeah, measuring air flow can be tricky without actual instruments. So much is subjective. If the air going into the case is not as much as the air going out of the case, then extra air is pulled in from cracks and crannies around the case. If the air going into the case is more than the air getting pulled out those same cracks will allow the excess to go out. Things tend to stay cleaner in the second case because you're not pulling air in from right next to the floor. For systems I setup for business clients I try to always put a filter on the in side and make that fan have a higher CFM rating than the fan on the out side. Since they tend to run their machines all day everyday and keep them in service for years, that help to keep them clean by keeping a bit of positive pressure inside the case.
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  • lucif3r
    lucif3r Member Posts: 5

    Tinkerer
    billsey said:
    Yeah, measuring air flow can be tricky without actual instruments. So much is subjective. If the air going into the case is not as much as the air going out of the case, then extra air is pulled in from cracks and crannies around the case. If the air going into the case is more than the air getting pulled out those same cracks will allow the excess to go out. Things tend to stay cleaner in the second case because you're not pulling air in from right next to the floor. For systems I setup for business clients I try to always put a filter on the in side and make that fan have a higher CFM rating than the fan on the out side. Since they tend to run their machines all day everyday and keep them in service for years, that help to keep them clean by keeping a bit of positive pressure inside the case.
    thanks for the reply and totally understood :) im going to search for an exhaust fan matches front fan speed and cfm with lowest db wish noctua fans got led on them... anyways thanks again the moment i replace the fan ill post some photos thanks again billsey 

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