Having memory problems with my Predator Orion 3000,what is my issue

SC86
SC86 Member Posts: 5

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edited February 15 in 2020 Archives
Ok I have installed 16 gigs into each of the 4 slots, each card is the same and described below, I am running a windows memory diagnostic tool,, it has found errors, but still running at the moment.:

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series DDR4 3200MHz CL16 Dual Channel Memory Kit 1.35V (F4-3200C16D-32GVK)

What could be my problem with memory? It is enough and fast enough.  It has been running fine until recently.  I usually only play flight sims like Digital Combat Simulator World. It's always updated.

Except for the purchased Ram, everything else is stock.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks!!

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  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,601 Trailblazer
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    The PO3-600 models use the Intel B360 Chipset, which supports memory speeds of 2666MHz (for i5 & i7) or 2400MHz (for i3). Putting 3200MHz in will not help your speed and as you are finding out may not work well when down clocked to 2666.
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  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 12,487 Trailblazer
    SC86 said:
    Ok I have installed 16 gigs into each of the 4 slots, each card is the same and described below, I am running a windows memory diagnostic tool,, it has found errors, but still running at the moment.:

    G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series DDR4 3200MHz CL16 Dual Channel Memory Kit 1.35V (F4-3200C16D-32GVK)

    What could be my problem with memory? It is enough and fast enough.  It has been running fine until recently.  I usually only play flight sims like Digital Combat Simulator World. It's always updated.

    Except for the purchased Ram, everything else is stock.

    Any help would be appreciated, thanks!!

    How long have you had the 4x DDR4 3200MHz in for and working? As you have to test each ram stick separately or in pairs to see if each or in pairs they function 100%. Show us a caption of a CPUz “Memory” and “SPD's” with all 4x DDR4 3200MHz installed or if you can’t do that then with 2x DDR4 3200MHz installed, because, if the 4x DDR4 3200MHz ram worked before then it might be other components that have been affected like the mobo, PS or one of the ram sticks is not inserted properly or functioning etc


  • Cowboy_Guy
    Cowboy_Guy Member Posts: 6

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    I have a Predator Orion 3000 (P03-600). I have been having similar Memory problems after installing Hyper X DDR4 3200MHZ 16GB Memory Modules in all Memory Slots for a total of 64GB(matched kit). The computer will work fine for a month or a week and then intermitally freeze. I have to power it off and restart. This happens while I perform heavy computing tasks (Game Developer) or just web surfing. No consistency and very intermittent. I have tried other memory modules (all matched) from other manufacturers same thing. I am running the latest firmware. I am a former PC technician and have performed window scans with updated device drivers and no solutions yet. I have a feeling that the motherboard can't properly support the memory fully populated. The power supply that came with the computer in my opinion is under powered especially with a GTX 2070 Video card and all memory slots in use (The power draw could be too much and cause the power to dip and cause a hang?) Just speculation so far. I will probably change the case and add a bigger power supply and if needed a new motherboard.


  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,601 Trailblazer
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    The PO3-600 models use the Intel B360 Chipset, which supports memory speeds of 2666MHz (for i5 & i7) or 2400MHz (for i3). Putting 3200MHz in will not help your speed and as you are finding out may not work well when down clocked to 2666.
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  • Cowboy_Guy
    Cowboy_Guy Member Posts: 6

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    My bad. My memory is actually DDR4 - 2666MHZ  CL16 288 - Pin UDIMM Hyper X. (64GB Matched Kit 4X16GB) Not 3200 Mhz. Sorry for all the confusion.
  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,601 Trailblazer
    OK, so it's not a memory speed issue then. Did the memory test complete and what did it say? It's possible one of the sticks you got was faulty. You could try the same test with just one stick installed, then do the same the next stick, etc..
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  • Cowboy_Guy
    Cowboy_Guy Member Posts: 6

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    This is the second ram kit that is currently installed. The first kit was (2X) Crucial Ballistix Sport AT 2666 MHz DDR4 DRAM Desktop Gaming Memory Kit 32GB (16GBx2) CL16 BLS2K16G4D26BFST for a total of 64GB. The memory had passed all tests several times. I ran a final test and the memory hung on the hammer test. I powered off the machine and it completed all tests no problem. Things were great for a while the it would hang and require a hard reset. I sent the memory back - it was within 30 days.  I then ordered my present memory - HyperX Kingston 64GB 2666MHz DDR4 CL16 DIMM (Kit of 4) Fury RGB (HX426C16FB3AK4/64) - 64GB kit (4 x 16GB). Again same thing it passes all tests with numerous tries. Then I would run the same batch of tests and no failures noted. I would then run the tests again and it would hang on the fourth path of the testing usually the hammer test sometimes it would make it further then lock up. Completely random. The computer would run fine for a month then freeze. I would then do a hard restart and things would be good for a while. This is a second memory kit - so what are the chances that two memory kits are bad? I will continue to test further, when I have more time.


  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,601 Trailblazer
    OK, so other thing that can show as memory issues are power issues and heat issues. Are you monitoring temperature? What else is in the system? How big is the PSU?
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  • Cowboy_Guy
    Cowboy_Guy Member Posts: 6

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    Everything in the machine is stock except for the new memory modules. I believe the stock PSU is 450 watts and I do monitor temps with predator sense. No other peripherals.

    Room Temp about 25 C.
    Idle at Windows 10 desktop - CPU (43 C)  GPU (45 C)  System (43 C). 
    Unreal Engine Editor CPU - (65 to 74 C) GPU (64 to 79 C) System (45 to 46 C).
    Tom Clancy Breakpoint - CPU (69 to 75 C) GPU (80 to 81 C) System (48 to 49 C).
  • Cowboy_Guy
    Cowboy_Guy Member Posts: 6

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    edited August 2020
    Some more info on my specific SKU. Acer Predator P03-600-EB14  Canadian Version.
  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,601 Trailblazer
    Those temperature numbers are right where they should be. It's possible for a PSU to fail by delivering just as much power as it's supposed to, but dirty power, with lots of noise. Enough noise and sometimes what's supposed to a zero looks like a one instead. Do you have access to an alternate supply to test with? It should be around the same wattage as what you have now. Your supply should be a 500W and it's a standard ATX form factor.
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  • Cowboy_Guy
    Cowboy_Guy Member Posts: 6

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    I have a really nice EVGA 1300 watt 80 gold modular power supply to try and I just ordered a new case. I will let you know when my new case arrives so I can start testing my new build.
  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,601 Trailblazer
    Test first with just the new supply, so we're not running an apples and oranges situation. A case swap can affect all kinds of things and I'd feel more comfortable if we got the first issue fixed before creating any new ones. :)
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