My RAID 0 success story

Mafoo
Mafoo Member Posts: 4 New User
edited November 2023 in 2020 Archives
Hello all,
I have successfully installed RAID 0 on my Helios 500 PH517-51. Here is what I did, and why.

The stock drive that comes with this laptop, by todays standards, is very slow. Here is the performance reading before I reinstalled the OS.



I know that RAID 0 on these laptops have performance issues, however I can still take financial advantage of RAID. I purchased:

2 Kingston 1TB A2000 ($130 on Amazon right now, so a total of $260)
vs
Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB ($400 on Amazon right now)

However I got the Kingston's on sale, so for me it was a much bigger delta.

I then installed the new drives and reinstalled windows. This gave me the following performance:


These are already much better numbers. I got the same speed on the second drive as well, so I proceeded to install the raid. I then raided the drive using the intel windows tools (I used the RTS drivers from ASUS, and don't forget to leave 10 meg of unpartitioned space at the end of the drive when you install windows). These are the results:


That's as much as a 65% improvement in performance, and ***** close to the evo in speed. 

On, and once done, you will need to move your windows health partition to the back of the drive, so you can increase the size of the C partition. I used the free version of AOMEI, and it worked great.

A point about RAID that I want to address, as I have seem many people talk about the dangers of RAID. When you do a RAID 0 with spinning hard drives, you run the risk of a HD failure. HD failures are pretty much inevitable. This is a dangerous world to live in :). However with Solid State, they will either fail within the first few weeks due to a manufacturing issue, or they will never fail if you operate them under expected conditions. The one thing that will kill an SSD, is heat. If this was a single drive, the drive would be doing twice the work, and be generating more heat then two drives. In my eyes, this means the risk of two cooler drives failing, so lower then 1 hot drive failing.

In reality, outside of a server application, any NVMe drive failing due to use is extremely rare. Don't be afraid to RAID 0 your SSD's, and to be honest, I think it actually reduces the risk of data loss, not the other way around.

Answers

  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    edited July 2020
    Mafoo really great job and thank you for sharing your experience with the community i just want to add for everyone else to understand (dont get me wrong im not here to argue about it) ) that raid 0 its really dangerous has no mirroring its just stripping if one drive gets corrupted its all lost unfortunately and yes its extremely rare for a ssd to fail but lets be realistic it might nothing is guaranteed (probably more probabilities if its a cheap budget drive)  personally i will never configure raid 0 anywhere neither would recommend it to anyone already had my own bad experiences years ago plus nvme its already fast enough no need to be faster also for gaming its barely useless only noticieable on loading times  its only useful on rendering/content creation thats the main purpose of nvme everything else runs just fine on sata/hdd.

    For partitioning/cloning/shrinking/increasing/moving partitions to another part of the drive personally i always use easeus partition master never failed me perfect every time no matter what drive type. 

    But again thanks for sharing it for all those interested really good share and good luck to everyone  :)


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  • Mafoo
    Mafoo Member Posts: 4 New User
    xapim said:
    personally i will never configure raid 0 anywhere neither would recommend it to anyone already had my own bad experiences years ago
    Thanks Xapim,

    As for the quote above, I think this rightfully so makes you a bit more risk adverse then others. The difference today then "years ago", is two fold. The odds of it happening are lower, and for many people, the damage is minimal. Many people today have important information backed up in the cloud. Something we didn't do enough in the old days. If my PC crashed, it would take me about a day to have everything back to what it is right now.

    I 100% agree with you that for 95% of games out there, it's pointless for performance. But it is nice to have one larger partition compared to 2 smaller ones. And for me, I am a developer, so my compile times are much faster.
  • Mafoo
    Mafoo Member Posts: 4 New User
    Oh, and one last thing to point out...

    This laptop has a spinning HD in it as well. One could get a 4tb drive for under $100. So a high speed 2tb SSD, is $400. My setup with 2tb high speed, and a 4tb backup drive cost $360. That will not only provide the hardware safety you are worried about, but the option for differential backups (think, I screwed up my excel file 2 weeks ago, but just realized today. How do I get that file back?). And on top of that, if for some reason one of my drives fails (still extremely unlikely in the world of solid state), I still have half the capacity when I restore from backup. I only lose 1TB, not the entire 2TB stick.

    Cheers.