Finished upgrading my PH315-52-78VL. 8TB SSD, 64GB RAM, thoughts, and a question about temps.

phatfreeza
phatfreeza Member Posts: 10

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edited November 2023 in 2020 Archives
Hi all, I just thought I'd share with you my experience upgrading this laptop.

The parts I used were:
(2) Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz
xpg s11 pro 2tb nvme m.2 drive
pioneer 2tb nvme m.2 drive
western digital blue 4tb sata ssd

Opening the laptop up was a breeze. the back came off easily but i had to use a plastic spudger to get the front to come off. I unplugged the battery and proceeded to replace the parts. Everything went smoothly. the xpg ssd comes with a heat shield so I did not use the silver one that came with the laptop. Put everything back together and installed windows and everything was detected. The 64gb of ram is running at 2666mhz without having to change any settings.

Now onto the questions:

The first question is: I ran crystal disk mark and info and i am getting the following speeds:

xpg s11 pro: reads : 1900MB/s , writes: 2500 MB/s
pioneer: reads: 2200MB/s, writes 2800 MB/s
WD blue reads : 545MB/s writes 530 MB/s

I find it weird that my write speeds are faster than my reads. Is there something I'm overlooking? A driver perhaps?

The second question is as I ran crystaldiskmark on the xpg s11 pro the temps got up to 62 degrees C and the pioneer stayed in the 50s. When should I start worrying about temps?

Feel free to ask me any questions about this upgrade!

Answers

  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    edited December 2019
    phatfreeza you should have great temps cpu/gpu wise it should come pre undervolted as usual  but if u feel like you can go even further on undervolting it with TS you can also if you want to repaste it with kryonaut or similar if you can open it without voiding your warranty (as it seems you can as you already upgraded everything that was possible to)


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • phatfreeza
    phatfreeza Member Posts: 10

    Tinkerer

    xapim said:
    phatfreeza you should have great temps cpu/gpu wise it should come pre undervolted as usual  but if u feel like you can go even further on undervolting it with TS you can also if you want to repaste it with kryonaut or similar if you can open it without voiding your warranty (as it seems you can as you already upgraded everything that was possible to)
    Thanks for the reply! In regards to temps I was referring to the m.2 ssds. Is anything under 70 c okay?
  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 12,064 Trailblazer
    Hi all, I just thought I'd share with you my experience upgrading this laptop.

    The parts I used were:
    (2) Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz
    xpg s11 pro 2tb nvme m.2 drive
    pioneer 2tb nvme m.2 drive
    western digital blue 4tb sata ssd

    Opening the laptop up was a breeze. the back came off easily but i had to use a plastic spudger to get the front to come off. I unplugged the battery and proceeded to replace the parts. Everything went smoothly. the xpg ssd comes with a heat shield so I did not use the silver one that came with the laptop. Put everything back together and installed windows and everything was detected. The 64gb of ram is running at 2666mhz without having to change any settings.

    Now onto the questions:

    The first question is: I ran crystal disk mark and info and i am getting the following speeds:

    xpg s11 pro: reads : 1900MB/s , writes: 2500 MB/s
    pioneer: reads: 2200MB/s, writes 2800 MB/s
    WD blue reads : 545MB/s writes 530 MB/s

    I find it weird that my write speeds are faster than my reads. Is there something I'm overlooking? A driver perhaps?

    The second question is as I ran crystaldiskmark on the xpg s11 pro the temps got up to 62 degrees C and the pioneer stayed in the 50s. When should I start worrying about temps?

    Feel free to ask me any questions about this upgrade!

    Well, I can only refer you to your WD SSD, my Samsung 850EVO SSD (which is on Rapid Mode) and its running at 545MB's Read and 525MB's Write, at 45c, as a comparison, which is pretty much the same as your WD. When the temps get above 80c you should get worried.
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    phatfreeza yes everything on 60'ish should be fine my 2tb m.2 wd blue 3d nand its running at 35 but again its not nvme the nvme would heat up by almost the double probably :)


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • RRV808
    RRV808 Member Posts: 13

    Tinkerer

    Hi all, I just thought I'd share with you my experience upgrading this laptop.

    The parts I used were:
    (2) Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz
    xpg s11 pro 2tb nvme m.2 drive
    pioneer 2tb nvme m.2 drive
    western digital blue 4tb sata ssd

    Opening the laptop up was a breeze. the back came off easily but i had to use a plastic spudger to get the front to come off. I unplugged the battery and proceeded to replace the parts. Everything went smoothly. the xpg ssd comes with a heat shield so I did not use the silver one that came with the laptop. Put everything back together and installed windows and everything was detected. The 64gb of ram is running at 2666mhz without having to change any settings.

    Now onto the questions:

    The first question is: I ran crystal disk mark and info and i am getting the following speeds:

    xpg s11 pro: reads : 1900MB/s , writes: 2500 MB/s
    pioneer: reads: 2200MB/s, writes 2800 MB/s
    WD blue reads : 545MB/s writes 530 MB/s

    I find it weird that my write speeds are faster than my reads. Is there something I'm overlooking? A driver perhaps?

    The second question is as I ran crystaldiskmark on the xpg s11 pro the temps got up to 62 degrees C and the pioneer stayed in the 50s. When should I start worrying about temps?

    Feel free to ask me any questions about this upgrade!

    Hi, I just purchased same PH 315-52-78VL. I installed a new Samsung 860 EVO Sata SSD with no problems. I'm looking to replace my Factory Installed(OS M.2) NVME and populating my 2nd NVME Drive. What exact steps did you do to install your two nvme drives? Did you clone or did you do a fresh installation of windows? Did you have to change boot sequences? Did you install your 2nd NVME with no problems? 

    I'm looking to install Samsung SSD Evo Plus NVME SSD 1TB as a boot drive then a second Samsung EVO Plus NVME in the empty slot.

    Thank you!!


  • phatfreeza
    phatfreeza Member Posts: 10

    Tinkerer

    RRV808 said:
    Hi all, I just thought I'd share with you my experience upgrading this laptop.

    The parts I used were:
    (2) Samsung 32GB DDR4 2666MHz
    xpg s11 pro 2tb nvme m.2 drive
    pioneer 2tb nvme m.2 drive
    western digital blue 4tb sata ssd

    Opening the laptop up was a breeze. the back came off easily but i had to use a plastic spudger to get the front to come off. I unplugged the battery and proceeded to replace the parts. Everything went smoothly. the xpg ssd comes with a heat shield so I did not use the silver one that came with the laptop. Put everything back together and installed windows and everything was detected. The 64gb of ram is running at 2666mhz without having to change any settings.

    Now onto the questions:

    The first question is: I ran crystal disk mark and info and i am getting the following speeds:

    xpg s11 pro: reads : 1900MB/s , writes: 2500 MB/s
    pioneer: reads: 2200MB/s, writes 2800 MB/s
    WD blue reads : 545MB/s writes 530 MB/s

    I find it weird that my write speeds are faster than my reads. Is there something I'm overlooking? A driver perhaps?

    The second question is as I ran crystaldiskmark on the xpg s11 pro the temps got up to 62 degrees C and the pioneer stayed in the 50s. When should I start worrying about temps?

    Feel free to ask me any questions about this upgrade!

    Hi, I just purchased same PH 315-52-78VL. I installed a new Samsung 860 EVO Sata SSD with no problems. I'm looking to replace my Factory Installed(OS M.2) NVME and populating my 2nd NVME Drive. What exact steps did you do to install your two nvme drives? Did you clone or did you do a fresh installation of windows? Did you have to change boot sequences? Did you install your 2nd NVME with no problems? 

    I'm looking to install Samsung SSD Evo Plus NVME SSD 1TB as a boot drive then a second Samsung EVO Plus NVME in the empty slot.

    Thank you!!


    Hello, 
    I did a fresh installation of windows. The only software that I downloaded ahead of time was predator sense(I would download all the drivers just in case anyway). In order to do a fresh install and boot from USB, I disabled secure boot in bios. You may or may not need to do this. I did not have any problems with the nvme install. I even left off the metal shield on one of the nvmes because mine came with its own heatshield. No temperature problems or throttling yet. Let me know if that was unclear or if you needed more help. 
  • RRV808
    RRV808 Member Posts: 13

    Tinkerer

    Thanks for your help!!
  • belik
    belik Member Posts: 397 Seasoned Practitioner WiFi Icon
    This is first time I see 64 gb in Helios 300, congrats!
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    edited January 2020
    belik youre right i didnt even noticed that lol i wonder if the older ones would also support but yeah theres no advantage at all in having 64gb 32 its more than enough and in some cases too much for those who dont use it :) as i always say all the time the manufacturer specs it was what was tested with doenst mean it wont support more same with mobiles for ex my old faithful defy mb525 its advertised  to suport 32gb sd card max and i have 64gb and even the 128 also works lol  a bit slower as the phone ist a 1ghz cpu (overclocked to 1.3) but works 


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • phatfreeza
    phatfreeza Member Posts: 10

    Tinkerer

    xapim said:
    belik youre right i didnt even noticed that lol i wonder if the older ones would also support but yeah theres no advantage at all in having 64gb 32 its more than enough and in some cases too much for those who dont use it :) as i always say all the time the manufacturer specs it was what was tested with doenst mean it wont support more same with mobiles for ex my old faithful defy mb525 its advertised  to suport 32gb sd card max and i have 64gb and even the 128 also works lol  a bit slower as the phone ist a 1ghz cpu (overclocked to 1.3) but works 
    think of all the chrome tabs and windows!!! using it to color grade 4k footage but even then it doesn't use it all... nice to have the headroom :)
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    edited January 2020
    phatfreeza i have 32gb hyperx 2666 with about 300 tabs open on FF and i dont even use half of it even if i launch  a game with all open i dont use it all but yeah for video editing and rendering the more the better i also like to have plenty of room to play with better have space and dont need it than need it and dont have it   :p its always nice to know that the 2019 support 64gb now i wonder about the older ones lol actually acer even has it in the service manual supporting 3200mhz with micron sodimms but only 8gb and 16gb


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/