Overheating eMachines E725

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Olanhol
Olanhol Member Posts: 7 New User

Problem 1 (the accute one)
For some time my laptop is running to hot, followed by breaking the power.
This happens after appox. 1 or 2 hours use every time I use it.

I recognize that this happens while the fan works properly (as far as I can understand.

I concider the reason to be - maybe - dust hindering the air flow.
If so, may I go into it to try to remove the dust?
Any other solution?

I bought this equipment Oct 2009. and have been very satisfied with it until the powerbreaking started.
The SNID number is ***

Problem 2
During the years the machine is working more and more slow, in spite of often running defragmenting, CCleaner and PCtools.
The disk has to partitions, C: containing mainly software (using 119 of 141 Gb available space) and D: using 110 of 141 Gb available space.


Please help ...

Regards
Ole Andreas Holm

 

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  • aferraro21
    aferraro21 Member Posts: 37 Die Hard WiFi Icon
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    You're welcome.

     

    You will be just fine.  Also recommending, when you remove the old, baked-on, thermal paste, just use a dry tissue/paper towel to break off to remove that stuff.  Avoid using sharp metal objects to chip away at it as you will most likely damage the processor, and create undesired scratches/grooves into the matting suface of the heat sink.  Avoid harsh chemicals or water in any way if at all possible.  A little bit of rubbing alcohol to the heatsink matting surface isn't a bad thing, if the installer went crazy when applying the original thermal paste.

     

    When you apply the new thermal paste, I like to use about a pea sized amount on the top of the processor (no more you don't need to go crazy with it), then I carefully spread as much as I can with the tip of the thermal paste tube to ensure enough of the paste is evenly dispersed across the matting surface between the top of the processor and the matting surface of the heat sink itself.  Again, just be patient, and no need to go crazy with the amount of paste you're using before you screw the heatsink back down onto the motherboard/mainboard.

     

    A can of compressed clean air helps, but isn't required.  Many times when I work on family/friends computers, I'll blow on pieces when I have them out of the laptop case, then wipe clean with a tissue, maybe a dab of clean water.  It's a great confidence builder to be able to work on these types of machines, has even helped me to fix mobile phones (proximity sensors, reflowing solder on wifi chips that have overheated, etc...) just by feeling better in my ability to take things like this apart.

     

    Glad I could help encourage you to try this, rather than bringing it to someone who will end up charging you some serious money (probably more than what the computer is worth).  I still use my Acer 5532 till this day, upgraded a few bits like a faster dual core processor (has an AMD chipset, upgraded to the TL-66, I believe the E725 has an intel chipset), more RAM (8gb), and a SSD, and running on Windows 10, aside from not being able to find decent batteries for these machines anymore, and a max runtime of 1 hour on battery, I still really enjoy using it!

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  • IronFly
    IronFly ACE Posts: 18,413 Trailblazer
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    1. you can use a can of air spray to blow some air inside the vents
    2. maybe it's time to re-install/reset your OS Smiley Wink
    I'm not an Acer employee.
  • Olanhol
    Olanhol Member Posts: 7 New User
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    Is it possible to re-install and keep the disk content?
    How do I reset?
  • IronFly
    IronFly ACE Posts: 18,413 Trailblazer
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    i strongly suggest you to backup your personal data and re-install the OS from scratch.

     

    if you have windows 7, refresh is not available.

    I'm not an Acer employee.
  • Olanhol
    Olanhol Member Posts: 7 New User
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    Thanks for animering. I run W Vista Home Prenium. Is refreshing an option?
  • IronFly
    IronFly ACE Posts: 18,413 Trailblazer
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    no and be aware that Vista is probably the worst OS Microsoft did.

    I'm not an Acer employee.
  • Olanhol
    Olanhol Member Posts: 7 New User
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    Is upgrading the best solution? If so, to which OS?
  • IronFly
    IronFly ACE Posts: 18,413 Trailblazer
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    Windows 7 can be a good solution, maybe windows 10 too but i don't know if your hardware is suppprted by windows 10.
    I'm not an Acer employee.
  • aferraro21
    aferraro21 Member Posts: 37 Die Hard WiFi Icon
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    I don't recommend blowing air back into a laptop case, because often times, severly clogged up machines will not get all of the dust out, and as soon as you turn the laptop on again, layers of dust/lint will get blown back into the heatsink fins and the machine will remain clogged.

     

    So if you have the skills to open the laptop case, it is always best to remove the heatsink from the processer, and clean it well when it is out of the computer.  Older machines that have been overheating will have most likely "baked" the thermal paste that sits between the top of the processor and the mating surface of the heatsink.  Wiping off the "baked" paste and applying new thermal paste (no more than the size of a small bb/ball bearing), I recommend tuniq tx-2, and reinstalling.  You will notice a huge difference and your machine's ability to significantly disipate heat quicker.

     

    Windows 10 pretty much supports all commerically sold laptop and destop computers that were new enough to come with at least a 64bit processor.  After you backup all important files, I would recommend downloading the Windows 10 installation file from the Microsoft website, and install without a license.  See how the setup goes on your machine, when you look at the device manager, if nothing is showing errors, you know for sure that Windows 10 is fully supported.  I've seen Windows 10 Home, and Windows 10 Professional  license/activation keys going for as low as $20, and upwards to $60.  Be careful who who purchase keys from, some third party sites may try to sell you a used key, that Microsoft will deem as invalid and will not authenticate.

     

    If none of that works, you can always get Windows 7 really cheap these days, and there are some decent sellers you can pick up Win 7 64 bit for under $40.

     

    Last if you need help pulling apart your laptop, take a look on youtube, I'm sure someone has a video tutorial on a complete teardown of your specific laptop somewhere.  Might seem a little overwhelming at first, but is actually really fun to learn.

  • Olanhol
    Olanhol Member Posts: 7 New User
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    Thanks a lot for the advices.

    Yes, taking the laptop apart seems overwhelming. I looked for videos on youtube for my eMachines xp-510 laptop, but didn't find any for the exact model (no eMachines at all), though. As I know this type is an Acer product, I also looked for any similar looking Acer product. But didn't find any this way either.

     

    By joining a video for another type laptop, I could pick up the principles, though. So maybe I one day will make an attempt to try your solution.

    If you know a link to a video solution for my,type, please tell me.

     

    Your advice to choose Win 10 seems reasonable, but the overheating issue has to be solved first, of course.

     

  • Olanhol
    Olanhol Member Posts: 7 New User
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    Sorry for the mismatch about laptop model. It's, of course, still E 725.

  • aferraro21
    aferraro21 Member Posts: 37 Die Hard WiFi Icon
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    The emachines E725 is the same as the acer 5532 and 5517 case.

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeN5-_c7ZzE

     

    Watch that video, it will show you everything you need to know regarding disassembly.  Again, may seem a bit overwhelming at first, but as long as you take your time, you really can't mess anything in the computer up that bad.  Just be mindful of how things come out, such as, before you remove the RAM chips, look closely at how they set in the socket, and take note of how they release.  The wifi card, as well as screws and where they go too.  Just refer back to the video if you need to.  It makes it a heck of a lot easier putting things back together and knowing that everything is connected properly.

     

    I once didn't have RAM properly set in the motherboard with one of the first laptops I ever took apart.  It wouldn't start, and I thought I fried the mainboard.  Took me a few days before I ever figured out what I did wrong.

     

    I have almost no doubt that if you clean out the dust that is clogged in your computer by disassembly, you will be able to enjoy your computer for many more years to come.  Sometimes trying to blow the dust back through the fan works, but most of the time, I have found some of it gets sucked right back in, and you are in the same place you were a month later.

     

    Good luck!

     

     

  • Olanhol
    Olanhol Member Posts: 7 New User
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    Thanks a lot!

    I've found a video about assembling, so noe I just have to collct courage to start the operation.

    And I'm right now bying the compound tuniq t-2.

  • aferraro21
    aferraro21 Member Posts: 37 Die Hard WiFi Icon
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    You're welcome.

     

    You will be just fine.  Also recommending, when you remove the old, baked-on, thermal paste, just use a dry tissue/paper towel to break off to remove that stuff.  Avoid using sharp metal objects to chip away at it as you will most likely damage the processor, and create undesired scratches/grooves into the matting suface of the heat sink.  Avoid harsh chemicals or water in any way if at all possible.  A little bit of rubbing alcohol to the heatsink matting surface isn't a bad thing, if the installer went crazy when applying the original thermal paste.

     

    When you apply the new thermal paste, I like to use about a pea sized amount on the top of the processor (no more you don't need to go crazy with it), then I carefully spread as much as I can with the tip of the thermal paste tube to ensure enough of the paste is evenly dispersed across the matting surface between the top of the processor and the matting surface of the heat sink itself.  Again, just be patient, and no need to go crazy with the amount of paste you're using before you screw the heatsink back down onto the motherboard/mainboard.

     

    A can of compressed clean air helps, but isn't required.  Many times when I work on family/friends computers, I'll blow on pieces when I have them out of the laptop case, then wipe clean with a tissue, maybe a dab of clean water.  It's a great confidence builder to be able to work on these types of machines, has even helped me to fix mobile phones (proximity sensors, reflowing solder on wifi chips that have overheated, etc...) just by feeling better in my ability to take things like this apart.

     

    Glad I could help encourage you to try this, rather than bringing it to someone who will end up charging you some serious money (probably more than what the computer is worth).  I still use my Acer 5532 till this day, upgraded a few bits like a faster dual core processor (has an AMD chipset, upgraded to the TL-66, I believe the E725 has an intel chipset), more RAM (8gb), and a SSD, and running on Windows 10, aside from not being able to find decent batteries for these machines anymore, and a max runtime of 1 hour on battery, I still really enjoy using it!

  • aferraro21
    aferraro21 Member Posts: 37 Die Hard WiFi Icon
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    One last thing to add....

     

    As far as upgrades, adding a Samsung SSD drive was probably the best thing I did before a fresh reinstall of the Windows 7 Professional (later utilized the free Windows 10 Upgrade when Microsoft was offering it).  I believe all of these computers are limited by a SATA 2 interface, I could be wrong.  But I picked up a working Samsung 840 EVO (128 gb), and used that for my new install.  

     

    The reason I recommend a Samsung EVO or PRO, 840 model or newer, is because even through they are optimized to run on SATA 3 devices, when you download the Samsung software, it has the ability to enable a function Samsung calls "Rapid Mode".  The read and write speeds you gain with that functionality will far exceed the speed your other hardware will ever be able to keep up with.  I would say my computer runs smoother than my wife's Dell Latitude in many ways, which was produced and distributed in 2013.