can anyone show me a vid/tutorial about how to undervolt/underclock that gives best performance?

AdamFriska
AdamFriska Member Posts: 13

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edited November 2023 in 2020 Archives
Hello, i bought an Acer Predator Helios 300 and somehow it has thermal issue ( i realized when im getting silly temperatures ), and i'm actually relieved that im not the only one who has this problem, so how do i undervolt / underclock that gives me best performance without damaging any of my parts? ( and no warranty void ).

thanks!

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  • andylb
    andylb ACE Posts: 3,827 Pathfinder
    edited March 2020 Answer ✓
    80 to 83 isn't silly either, on the Predator Forum we consider anything below 90 to be within range and mid 80's to be ideal. The chart below shows the temperature range and characteristics of the Helios 300. Note Thermal Throttling starts at 98c and shuts off at 90c indicating temperatures below 90c are acceptable and safe and the fans when auto is selected are still not on maximum. Opinions are one thing but facts are another. So with temps 85c or below you can game with confidence and stop worrying about a problem that you don't have and remember this is a gaming laptop and gaming laptops run hot. If you want to bring your temps down further then repaste with Grizzly Kryonaut, Acer don't do a good stock pasting job


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  • andylb
    andylb ACE Posts: 3,827 Pathfinder
    Undervolt using one of the custom Throttlestop packages designed by one of our dedicated gamers. They are well tested and very easy to use, click the link below
    https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/577183/throttlestop-undervolt-profiles-pre-made/p1?new=1

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  • AdamFriska
    AdamFriska Member Posts: 13

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    Hi! thanks for replying, i have the i7-8750H currently, so should i get the i7-8750H version? and what will happen if i use the config with my latest throttlestop will it still work? and what if i crash or something bad happened, how can i reverse?? thank u
    sorry for my english
  • AdamFriska
    AdamFriska Member Posts: 13

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    i noticed that the premade throttlestop disabled BD PROCHOT ( this will void my warranty right? )
  • andylb
    andylb ACE Posts: 3,827 Pathfinder
    No it won't, this is a known and accepted solution, undervolting causes no harm to your laptop. Notice Acer have allowed this to be a Sticky Topic

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  • AdamFriska
    AdamFriska Member Posts: 13

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    I still get 80c max fan what did I do wrong???
  • andylb
    andylb ACE Posts: 3,827 Pathfinder
    edited March 2020
    80c is perfect for gaming on your model. Target temperature is around 85c and incidentally Undervolting does NOT damage your laptop, Overvolting/Overclocking, damages laptops. Stop worrying you now have good temps relax and enjoy your game

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  • AdamFriska
    AdamFriska Member Posts: 13

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    I usually get 74c max on whatever application :0
  • andylb
    andylb ACE Posts: 3,827 Pathfinder
    edited March 2020
    Then why did you say you have "Silly temperatures"? if you have 74c why would you say that? Why would you want to undervolt? 74c is absolutely normal. Anything below 90c is within range. I do not understand why we have been attempting to fix something that is not broken. There are users on here with temperature problems that would be very happy to get 80c

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  • AdamFriska
    AdamFriska Member Posts: 13

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    silly temperature is because i usually have 74c max, but now i have like 80 spikes to 89 for some seconds and get 83 stable spikes to 89 or even 90+ and i believe thats not normal 0.0
  • andylb
    andylb ACE Posts: 3,827 Pathfinder
    You said in your first post that your temperatures were "Silly" and you had 74c at that time. I would have told you not to do anything if you had said that your temps were 74c. Uninstall the package I pointed you to and go back to 74c and think yourself blessed. Sorry but I'm done now

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  • AdamFriska
    AdamFriska Member Posts: 13

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    when i use throttle stop i now get 89c constantly without no reason 
  • AdamFriska
    AdamFriska Member Posts: 13

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    ok thx for the help tho i will use it for later :DD
  • AdamFriska
    AdamFriska Member Posts: 13

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    andylb said:
    You said in your first post that your temperatures were "Silly" and you had 74c at that time. I would have told you not to do anything if you had said that your temps were 74c. Uninstall the package I pointed you to and go back to 74c and think yourself blessed. Sorry but I'm done now
    my 74c was not silly, but lately i get 80-83c thats why i posted for help and i call 80c-83c silly after installing throttlestop i get 89c but dont worry i uninstalled throttlestop now im back at 80c again
  • andylb
    andylb ACE Posts: 3,827 Pathfinder
    edited March 2020 Answer ✓
    80 to 83 isn't silly either, on the Predator Forum we consider anything below 90 to be within range and mid 80's to be ideal. The chart below shows the temperature range and characteristics of the Helios 300. Note Thermal Throttling starts at 98c and shuts off at 90c indicating temperatures below 90c are acceptable and safe and the fans when auto is selected are still not on maximum. Opinions are one thing but facts are another. So with temps 85c or below you can game with confidence and stop worrying about a problem that you don't have and remember this is a gaming laptop and gaming laptops run hot. If you want to bring your temps down further then repaste with Grizzly Kryonaut, Acer don't do a good stock pasting job


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    I am not an ACER employee
    Thank you and have a blessed day  B)

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  • AdamFriska
    AdamFriska Member Posts: 13

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    so with 80c it won't break? :000 cuz I read on electronic forums if it's hotter the lifespan is not long 😁 ok thx for tips too
  • andylb
    andylb ACE Posts: 3,827 Pathfinder
    edited March 2020
    Forget electronic forums, the manufacturer ACER build in the safe Throttling temperatures. Yes heat shortens the life of a laptop but this is a gaming laptop and you cant game with non gaming temperatures, there is a trade off. If you use your laptop for nothing else than watching videos and writing letters it will last forever but you want to game and that is HOT and no gaming laptop runs cool. The chart I posted above represent the official ACER temperatures and is far more accurate that any 3rd party website, after all Acer don't want to be repairing laptops under warranty because of high temperatures. Keep your temps 85c or below and you will be fine and repaste with Grizzly Kryonaut to get another 7 to 10 deg off

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  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    Up to 85'ish cpu it's just fine and 70/75 gpu max if you're temps are going way over contact acer support and get it repasted or if you can yourself without voiding your warranty with kryonaut or similar if you don't have any seals/stickers 


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  • AdamFriska
    AdamFriska Member Posts: 13

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    ok guys thx alot sorry it's late here so I can't answer right away, I have noctua thermal paste and what if the service center actually lied about using my paste?? will that happen?? thx 
  • AdamFriska
    AdamFriska Member Posts: 13

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    i also have intel xtu installed and i opened the app, and there is intel turbo boost but it says "enabled" but i cant disable cuz its greyed out
  • StevenGen
    StevenGen ACE Posts: 12,154 Trailblazer
    Try to use either a laptop tablet cooler or a vacuum vent extraction cooler and that will reduce at least 15c to 25c temp from your laptop. You can under volt also and things will get even cooler.