Migrating my 1TB with Recovery Drive into a new SSD Drive.

Jerminator
Jerminator Member Posts: 13

Tinkerer

edited October 2023 in 2020 Archives
Hi Team,

I was thinking that Cloning my Recovery Drive and migrating into SSD 2.5 and/or then make my primary storage of windows in M.2 is that possible?

My primary goal is migrating my Recovery Drive into SSD 2.5 and make it as primary of windows and then make my M.2 as a storage?

How about the Easy Recovery of Acer in Alt+F10 I might have a problem?


E5-475G-50ST
AntMan_Sk
I5- 7200U
8GB RAM
940MX/Intel UHD 620
1TB

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  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    Putting aside that I am never fond of OEM recovery methods, like the Alt+F10 in Acer; I actually wonder how's this one working, and I mean, how.

    Because if what I see in your picture is a typical Acer partitioning scheme... why is that Recovery partition just 1GB in size? And half filled at best, hell that partitioning scheme barely differs from vanilla. My guess would be that the only thing present in that recovery partition would be a WinRE boot image, and that would explain all of the posts I see around here about Alt+F10 not being able to repair the computer.

    If that's it I don't see any advantage of using Acer's recovery solution vs. that of Microsoft itself. A full backup of a pristine system in the recovery partition like years ago would be better to be honest. If the system is so messed up you can't correct its flaws through RE at least you'd be able to restore the computer to the way it came in a matter of seconds, and given the current sizes I'd say it wouldn't take more than 12GB of disk space.

    So, your primary goal is to use a 2.5'' SSD as your main drive, OS and the like in there, and use an M.2 SSD for storage right? Just curious... how come? I mean, M.2 drives even SATA III based are generally faster than their 2.5'' counterparts and I believe your system is capable of supporting NVMe drives.

    But nonetheless, you're worried that you won't be able to access Acer recovery thing through Alt+F10. The answer is easy to get actually, first you clone your M.2 drive to the 2.5'' (depending on the sizes you may need to shrink the C: volume, but if you use Macrium Reflect (the free version serves) you can do it easily), after the drive is cloned you'd take the M.2 out of the system and try to access the recovery environment via Alt+F10 just with the 2.5'' drive inserted.

    It boots? Perfect, it worked. It doesn't? I'm afraid there may not be possible to maintain Alt+F10 functionality (if the cloning procedure was right, taking into account re-deployment of the boot code if necessary). If you read the spoiler above I bet you wouldn't be missing much though haha.

    Anyway, if you need a step by step on how to use Reflect to do the clone le me know; maybe I could put up some walkthrough for you.
  • Jerminator
    Jerminator Member Posts: 13

    Tinkerer

    aphanic said:
    Putting aside that I am never fond of OEM recovery methods, like the Alt+F10 in Acer; I actually wonder how's this one working, and I mean, how.

    Because if what I see in your picture is a typical Acer partitioning scheme... why is that Recovery partition just 1GB in size? And half filled at best, hell that partitioning scheme barely differs from vanilla. My guess would be that the only thing present in that recovery partition would be a WinRE boot image, and that would explain all of the posts I see around here about Alt+F10 not being able to repair the computer.

    If that's it I don't see any advantage of using Acer's recovery solution vs. that of Microsoft itself. A full backup of a pristine system in the recovery partition like years ago would be better to be honest. If the system is so messed up you can't correct its flaws through RE at least you'd be able to restore the computer to the way it came in a matter of seconds, and given the current sizes I'd say it wouldn't take more than 12GB of disk space.

    So, your primary goal is to use a 2.5'' SSD as your main drive, OS and the like in there, and use an M.2 SSD for storage right? Just curious... how come? I mean, M.2 drives even SATA III based are generally faster than their 2.5'' counterparts and I believe your system is capable of supporting NVMe drives.

    But nonetheless, you're worried that you won't be able to access Acer recovery thing through Alt+F10. The answer is easy to get actually, first you clone your M.2 drive to the 2.5'' (depending on the sizes you may need to shrink the C: volume, but if you use Macrium Reflect (the free version serves) you can do it easily), after the drive is cloned you'd take the M.2 out of the system and try to access the recovery environment via Alt+F10 just with the 2.5'' drive inserted.

    It boots? Perfect, it worked. It doesn't? I'm afraid there may not be possible to maintain Alt+F10 functionality (if the cloning procedure was right, taking into account re-deployment of the boot code if necessary). If you read the spoiler above I bet you wouldn't be missing much though haha.

    Anyway, if you need a step by step on how to use Reflect to do the clone le me know; maybe I could put up some walkthrough for you.
    Sorry, I forgot to put that I’m just only using a 1TB HDD 2.5. That is why I’m planning to upgrade my main drive into SSD/M.2
  • Jerminator
    Jerminator Member Posts: 13

    Tinkerer

    My plan is migrating hdd 1tb 2.5 into ssd with full recovery and usage of alt+f10 just for the sake of being an oem style but its a SSD upgrade is it possible? But at least around 512gb ssd.
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    Ohhhhhh so it's the other way around!!! You're going from a 2.5'' HDD to an M.2 SSD, that makes way more sense hahaha I was already thinking you were going backwards.

    Anyway yep, the way would be to try, clone the drive to the new one, and see if you can access the recovery environment with Alt+F10.

    Windows generally doesn't like it when the boot drive changes like that, it's the same as when one changes from RST to AHCI or from AHCI to IDE in older models in the firmware setup (BIOS); Windows wouldn't boot afterwards. But if you do the cloning with Reflect from its USB boot stick for example there's an option called Re-Deploy that can change the necessary parameters in Windows so it boots in dissimilar hardware so to speak.

    Acronis has also a similar feature but I don't know if it's free, and you could go the DIY route as well, but it's burdensome. By the way! New drives sometimes also come with cloning software and all for you to use.