Acer Aspire 5 - which drivers?

ranolmz
ranolmz Member Posts: 14

Tinkerer

edited October 2023 in 2020 Archives
Hello I've bought Aspire 5 A515-54G (i5-10210u, MX250). Installed Win10 64-bit so far. 

I went to the acer page to download drivers for this laptop but (other than following some common sense) I am not sure which one should I install.

Particularly:
1.
1.1 Bluetooth Driver (AX201) [8.5 MB]
1.2 
Bluetooth Driver (INT9462 and INT9560) [147.0 MB]
1.3 
Bluetooth Driver (140.9 KB)
1.4 Bluetooth Driver (55.9 MB)

2. 
2.1 LAN Driver [10.4 MB]
2.2 
Wireless LAN Driver (AX201) [518.2 MB]
2.3 Wireless LAN Driver (INT9462 and INT9560) [518.2 MB]
2.4 Wireless LAN Driver [16.3 MB]
2.5 
Wireless LAN Driver [39.5 MB]

3.
3.1 
VGA Driver {Intel} [335.6 MB]
3.2 VGA Driver {NVIDIA} [702.5 MB]

4.
4.1 
Touchpad Driver {Synaptics} [621.7 KB]
4.2 Touchpad Driver {ELANTECH} [1.5 MB]


Answers

  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,897 Trailblazer
    Before installing any new drivers, what problems are you having that you think any of these drivers will fix? Jack E/NJ

    Jack E/NJ

  • ranolmz
    ranolmz Member Posts: 14

    Tinkerer

    edited December 2019
    Well, mainly, the touchpad is not working. It is not related to FN + F6 or F7 (if I remember correctly) touchpad lock. 

    The touch pad didn't work throughout the Windows Installation and still does not work after installing Windows.

    I will need to use both Wi-Fi and occasionally ethernet RJ-45 connection.

    And I will need something that will optimalize the fan speed usage. Currently the laptop seems to always use fan (desktop, not doing anything or even in BIOS). The fan sound is always there (louder or quiter), and I have not even tried launching a single general purpose application yet. 
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,897 Trailblazer
    Open DeviceManager. Do you see any red or yellow warnings? If not, what devices are listed under the HID and Mice folders? A screenshot would help if possible. Jack E/NJ

    Jack E/NJ

  • ranolmz
    ranolmz Member Posts: 14

    Tinkerer

    Thanks for reply. Here are two screenshoots of full device manager's list.
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,897 Trailblazer
    Did you acquire this without a factory-installed Win10 operating system? Jack E/NJ

    Jack E/NJ

  • ranolmz
    ranolmz Member Posts: 14

    Tinkerer

    edited December 2019
    JackE said:
    Did you acquire this without a factory-installed Win10 operating system? Jack E/NJ
    Yes, got it two days ago with no Windows (factory settings?). I turned off Fast Boot, added my USB to an "exception" in a secure boot (because USB was NTFS due to windows .iso being large). Simply installed Windows like always. The touchpad did not work even through Windows installation.

    If there's a mouse cursor in BIOS (I think not?), but if there is, then it didn't work even in BIOS. 
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,897 Trailblazer
    I suggest we first try to uninstall ALL the software drivers in DeviceManager that have yellow warning symbols. Note which ones that you uninstall. Then exit DeviceManager without re-installing anything. Keep fast startup turned off. Then shutdown Windows. Then re-start to see if any of the yellow warnings disappear.  If not, then we will next try to get your wlan or  lan running if it isn't already so we can find compatible drivers for the generic Win10 version that you installed. Jack E/NJ

    Jack E/NJ

  • ranolmz
    ranolmz Member Posts: 14

    Tinkerer

    Thanks, so far so good, the WiFi and Touchpad are working. Touchpad started working after installing touchpad drivers. 

    I have one problem though, clicking the FN + Left/Right arrows seems it does not adjust the brightness of the screen. I can adjust the brightness manually though by going into Settings -> Display. Why FN + Left/Right is not working? I have installed GPU drivers and in device manager it says they're working properly.
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,897 Trailblazer
    edited December 2019
    >>>FN + Left/Right arrows seems it does not adjust the brightness of the screen. >>>

    What happens when you press the arrows without the FN key? Check BIOS Main tab and change FN key behavior setting. Jack E/NJ


    Jack E/NJ

  • htlingual
    htlingual Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    Had to jump in. Have the same computer and same question as ranolmz. I found this thread by googling "AX201 INT9462 INT9560." This is the only English-language hit from Google that contains all three part numbers. I regret that JackE drove the thread away from the original question. I'm trying to perform a clean install on a new 1TB SSD, hence my need for the correct drivers.

    It appears that Acer sources components from different vendors which are installed in the same model. Rather than keeping a database of the vendors whose components are installed in a specific SNID, Acer has posted all the drivers for all components that might be installed. The user is left to figure out which parts are installed on his or her individual computer.

    I reinstalled the factory SSD and have just completed an exhaustive review of the drivers found in device manager. I have confirmed that I have an Elantech touchpad driver, both Intel and Nvidia graphics drivers, an AX201 bluetooth driver, and Realtek audio. I cannot tell about the rest of the wireless and bluetooth drivers listed in Post #1. I have no Qualcomm Atheros components. Reports from System Information and third-party tools have not helped identify other specific drivers. This information does not help ranolmz who is starting from scratch. He might, however, consider my drivers as a possible starting point.

    My strategy going forward will be to attempt to install all the drivers I cannot identify and see which ones are accepted and which are rejected, taking notes along the way. This strategy could easily result in a hot mess, in which case more clean installs will be necessary until I get it right. Brute force over elegant solutions, eh?

    One "gotcha." The default BIOS setting for SATA mode is "RST with Optane." If the Intel Rapid Storage Technology driver has not been installed, the SSD will not boot. The SATA mode must be changed to "AHCI." After the RST driver has been installed, the setting must be changed to "RST with Optane." Perhaps the driver takes care of this BIOS change as part of the installation. If not, it must be performed manually.

    Good luck to ranolmz!
  • htlingual
    htlingual Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    As of 12/21/2019, here are the most current zip files downloadable as drivers for the Acer A515-54G-53H6 (sorted alphabetically):

    Airplane Mode_Acer_1.0.0.4_W10x64_A.zip
    Audio Console_Realtek_1.3.179.0_W10x64_A.zip
    Audio_Realtek_6.0.8699.1_W10x64_A.zip
    Bluetooth_Atheros_10.0.0.910_W10x64_A.zip
    Bluetooth_Intel_20.100.0.4_W10x64_A.zip
    Bluetooth_Intel_21.10.1.1_W10x64_A.zip
    Bluetooth_Intel_21.20.1.2_W10x64_A.zip
    Chipset_Intel_10.1.14.5_W10x64_A.zip
    Chipset_Intel_10.1.18019.8144_W10x64_A.zip
    Fingerprint_ELANTECH_3.6.11001.10002_W10x64_A.zip
    IO Drivers_Intel_30.100.1841.2_W10x64_A.zip
    IO Drivers_Intel_30.100.1915.1_W10x64_A.zip
    IRST Utility_Intel_17.0.0.1072_W10x64_A.zip
    IRST_Intel_17.5.0.1017_W10x64_A.zip
    Lan_Realtek_10.35.0510.2019_W10x64_A.zip
    Storage_Intel_17.5.0.1017_W10x64_A.zip
    TouchPad_ELANTECH_13.6.14.1_W10x64_A.zip
    TouchPad_Synaptics_19.0.25.10_W10x64_A.zip
    Turbo Boost_Intel_1919.14.0.1269_W10x64_A.zip
    VGA_Intel_26.20.100.6911_W10x64_A.zip
    VGA_NVIDIA_25.21.14.1735_W10x64_A.zip
    Wireless LAN_Atheros_12.0.0.910_W10x64_A.zip
    Wireless LAN_Intel_19.51.16.2_W10x64_A.zip
    Wireless LAN_Intel_21.10.2.2_W10x64_A.zip

    These file names are confusing. When unzipped, these files produce the following directories (sorted alphabetically):

    Acer Airplane Mode Acer Airplane Mode Controller_v1.0.0.4
    Atheros Bluetooth_M NFA344NFA344ANFA435NFA435A_v10.0.0.910
    Atheros Wireless LAN_M NFA344NFA344ANFA435NFA435A_v12.0.0.910
    Bluetooth_Intel_20.100.0.4_W10x64
    Chipset_Intel_10.1.14.5_W10x64
    ELANTech Finger Print_M Finger Print_v3.6.11001.10002
    Elantech Touchpad_v13.6.14.1
    Intel Bluetooth_M AX201_v21.20.1.2
    Intel Bluetooth_M INT9560.NGWG and INT9462.NGWG BT5.0_v21.10.1.1
    Intel NB_Chipset_M Comet Lake_v10.1.18019.8144
    Intel Serial IO WinPERE Drivers_v30.100.1915.1
    INTEL Storage Intel Optane AutoConfigured_v17.5.0.1017
    Intel Storage WinPERE Drivers_v17.5.0.1017
    Intel TurboBoost_Manageability Engine Code Manageability Engine Code_v1919.14.0.1269
    Intel VGA Chip UMA_v26.20.100.6911
    Intel Wireless LAN_M AX201_v21.10.2.2
    IO Drivers_Intel_30.100.1841.2_W10x64
    IRST Utility_Intel_17.0.0.1072_W10x64
    Realtek Audio Codec_M ALC255_v6.0.8699.1
    Realtek Audio Driver Utility Realtek Audio Console UWP_v1.3.179.0
    Realtek LAN_M RTL8111H-CGT_v10.35.0510.2019
    Synaptics Touchpad_v19.0.25.10
    VGA_NVIDIA_25.21.14.1735_W10x64v2
    Wireless LAN_Intel_19.51.16.2_W10x64

    The usefulness of the Intel Optane driver is disputed by some, but I have no opinion. I cannot tell at present whether the 16MB M.2 card I purchased from Crucial supports Optane. For the time being, I am omitting the Optane driver leaving the UEFI BIOS setting on AHCI. I will follow this generic installation sequence:

    Chipset Driver
    Memory Card Reader Driver (if needed)
    Ethernet
    WiFi
    Graphics Drivers
    Bluetooth (if needed)
    Audio or Sound driver
    Touchpad (if needed)
    Touchscreen Driver (if needed)
    Webcam (if needed)
    Airplane Mode Switch (if needed)
    Fingerprint Sensor Driver (if needed)
    Intel Storage Manager (if needed)
    Wireless Mobile Broadband Driver (if any)
    Proprietary system management software (if any)

    I have had one failed clean install due to constant interruptions while working. I recommend that the installation process be undertaken when you can work steadily without interruption and focus on each driver and whether it is supported. During the first run-through, I discovered that both the Intel and the Qualcomm Atheros wi-fi drivers installed without error, but Atheros showed as the active driver in Device Manager. I did not attempt to test connectivity because I did not want to trigger Windows 10 updates. Not sure which driver is the correct one at this point.

    Another discovery: DO NOT UPGRADE THE BIOS to version 1.12. Version 1.11 allows you to toggle ACHI/Optane with RST on and off. Version 1.12 removes that ability. If you are upgrading the RAM and SSD (as I am) you cannot boot the new SSD when Optane is enabled. Not knowing this, the first step I took was upgrading to BIOS v1.12. When I could no longer toggle to AHCI, the computer would no longer boot. I had to learn how to revert the BIOS to v1.11. It is a simple process detailed here that involves running the v1.11 update, capturing the temporary files created, and then editing 'platform.ini' to change each instance of "flag=1" to "flag=0". That edit permits flashing of an older version of the BIOS over a newer version. Otherwise, the flashing software will prevent you from reverting to an older BIOS.

    The process of discovery continues ...
  • htlingual
    htlingual Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    Here is a copy of the driver installation checksheet I am using to track the process. I am about to start on Bluetooth.
  • htlingual
    htlingual Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    I'm frustrated because I cannot find any control to edit prior posts. My post at 2:17 pm should be deleted and replaced by this one. I installed 14 drivers in the sequence below. Device Manager shows all devices installed and running correctly. I have not connected to the Internet yet. I am going to image the clean installation and then turn Windows update loose. I have attached a detailed check sheet -- that replaces the prior one -- identifying the ten drivers I did not install and explaining why. I have intentionally omitted any Optane-related drivers until I can better understand that technology, how it is implemented on my computer, and whether I can use it with the new NVMe RAM and SSD. Three of the folders did not contain an .EXE .CMD or .BAT file, so I was not able to install those drivers. I cannot tell why those files were posted on Acer's website. As mentioned, Device Manager shows clear so there is no reason to do more detective work.

    Chipset_Intel_10.1.14.5_W10x64
    Intel Serial IO WinPERE Drivers_v30.100.1915.1
    Intel NB_Chipset_M Comet Lake_v10.1.18019.8144
    Intel TurboBoost_Manageability Engine Code Manageability Engine Code_v1919.14.0.1269
    Realtek LAN_M RTL8111H-CGT_v10.35.0510.2019
    Intel Wireless LAN_M AX201_v21.10.2.2
    Intel VGA Chip UMA_v26.20.100.6911
    VGA_NVIDIA_25.21.14.1735_W10x64v2
    Bluetooth_Intel_20.100.0.4_W10x64
    Intel Bluetooth_M AX201_v21.20.1.2
    Realtek Audio Codec_M ALC255_v6.0.8699.1
    Elantech Touchpad_v13.6.14.1
    Acer Airplane Mode Acer Airplane Mode Controller_v1.0.0.4
    ELANTech Finger Print_M Finger Print_v3.6.11001.10002
  • htlingual
    htlingual Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    I've imaged the drive and allowed Windows update to run. Device manager shows no changes and is still clean. Here is the list of installed software:

    Visual C++ was installed by Windows update. The jury is still out on Optane. The computer seems to run fine without. I will proceed to install the rest of my software and report back if there are any hiccups. The factory hardware gave me 4GB of RAM and 512GB of SSD. I now have 20MB of RAM and 1TB of SSD. Everything appears to be working fine. I hope this information will help ranolmz get his system up and running.
  • JackE
    JackE ACE Posts: 44,897 Trailblazer
    ranolmz>>>Thanks, so far so good, the WiFi and Touchpad are working. Touchpad started working after installing touchpad drivers. I have one problem though, clicking the FN + Left/Right arrows seems it does not adjust the brightness of the screen. I can adjust the brightness manually though by going into Settings -> Display. Why FN + Left/Right is not working? I have installed GPU drivers and in device manager it says they're working properly. >>>

    So as to avoid confusion in this thread, please respond to https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/comment/757320/#Comment_757320 . The brightness control up to that time seems to have been the only remaining issue that you have reported for your machine. Jack E/NJ



    Jack E/NJ

  • htlingual
    htlingual Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    A final note and then I'll log off. I think JackE and I are working at cross purposes and ranolmz is caught in the middle. As I interpreted ranolmz's initial question, he was performing a clean install of Win10 and the touchpad did not work. I had the same problem. The easy answer is to plug in a USB mouse until you have installed the touchpad driver. There is apparently no generic touchpad driver bundled with Win10 that will work with the Acer touchpad on this model. Acer offers two touchpad drivers for download (Synaptics and Elantech), so the second part of ranolmz's question was how to determine which driver to use. JackE probably has an answer but declined to opine and began playing whack-a-mole with drivers.

    I suppose I've been guilty of whack-a-mole, too. My motivation was to perform a clean install on a new SSD replacing the factory model. I refuse to run the factory installation because I don't know or understand the function of all the software (bloatware?) installed at the factory. I prefer to install the latest download from Microsoft followed by the necessary drivers and no more. Acer has left users in a confusing position by (1) failing to provide downloads of all factory-installed software, and (2) offering multiple drivers from different vendors for the same component. Their documentation is weak.

    To illustrate, here is a list of the installed software from the factory image:


    Nowhere on Acer's website will you find "DriverSetupUtility" or "Acer Configuration Manager." I have found numerous questions in this forum asking what those two "apps" do and where to download them, but no answers. I'll bet JackE knows.

    I have no clue about "App Explorer" or "Care Center Service," but they do not sound like software I want on my computer. The same goes for "Quick Access Service" and "User Experience Improvement Program Service." Those could be anything, including spyware. I do not use Symantec products.

    When all these items are removed from the list, all that remains are the drivers shown in my earlier post above. Interestingly, I have found that Optane runs fine when I restore the factory image to my new hard drive, but getting the Optane drivers to work on a clean install has thus far been problematic. I have plenty of speed with my new SSD. My (limited) understanding of Optane is that it is intended to improve the performance of traditional mechanical hard drives either used alone or in combination with a solid state drive. There does not seem to be much reason to use Optane when the SSD is the only drive in the system. Since that is how the Model A515-54G comes from the factory, I suspect there is some underlying licensing or promotional scheme with Intel to force Optane on users whether they need it or not.

    This has been an interesting exercise. I admit to having borrowed this thread to document my own process and hope that my findings are useful to ranolmz and anyone else who stumbles across this information. I've got my system up and running the way I want (without Optane). Best wishes to all.

  • htlingual
    htlingual Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    Not that anyone else has been following this thread, but the best answer by far is to use the Win10 "Deployment Image Servicing and Management" (DISM) tool. The export-driver command will export copies of factory-installed drivers for use in a clean install. Detailed description from Microsoft here:


    This won't solve ranolmz's problem, but it does solve mine. I'll put the old SSD with the factory installation back in the computer, run DISM against that drive, and collect all the drivers installed at the factory without having to guess which ones to use.

    Very cool and elegant solution with no brute force involved, aside from cracking the case one more time.
  • aphanic
    aphanic Member Posts: 959 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    It's too bad I wasn't around when all of this started, my time is limited today but I've caught up with the thread and I'll be posting some thoughts on the matter (since I'm also an owner of an A515-54G.

    First, for @ranolmz, addressing the initial purpose of the thread regarding the touchpad not working by default, it's because of the way it's been wired in the system. It goes over Intel's Serial I/O and seems to be controlled via I2C (it's the only controller of present of the time). Because Comet Lake systems are still new-ish Windows 10 doesn't have inbox drivers for those kinds of topologies, what needs to be done to use the trackpad during the initial portion of the Windows installation is to integrate (via dism for example) the driver for the I2C Serial I/O and that's it.

    It's not required to integrate the specific driver for the touchpad in place, inbox works just fine once the connection to it can be established. As for how to get a Windows installation to work, same thing either installing Intel's Serial I/O o integrating those drivers in the image ;).

    Now a prelim thing for those in the same situation of @htlingual, when installing cleanly Windows the most useful advice I could give you regarding drivers is... leave it up to it! =D Seriously though, whenever I have to service a machine that requires a reinstallation (although I have several master images for that already) the only thing I integrate to the boot image (or that I select at the stage of choosing where to install) is the driver for the storage system.

    In this case it's Intel's RST (look for the F6 or floppy drivers, they sometimes call them like that), for AMD based systems it's their SATA driver instead but I'll use this A515-54G as the example. Depending on the configuration, AHCI or RST+Optane (by the way, Optane acceleration is mostly useful for mechanical hard drives, running on NVMe SSDs is enough) one driver or the other would be used but that's the ideal thing: to use them as early as during the installation process.

    If loaded through the "Load driver" UI option they'll end up in the installation as well, but if directly integrated into the boot image make sure you do the same for the installation image (install.wim, there may be several in there too).

    Once Windows is up, specially newer releases, the rest of the drivers will be populated off of the Windows Update database. Just connect to the Internet and leave it alone for some time, or if you're in a hurry go to Settings -> Update & Security and force an update check. No need for us to figure out which one is the individual manufacturer of each component.

    But! If we needed to ID them, it'd be easy through the Device Manager. For example, say this graphics card was unknown (yellow triangle and all), you'd double click the item, go to the details tab and to the Hardware Ids property. You'd see something like this:



    There you'll see:
    • VEN_XXXX: IDs the vendor, i.e. manufacturer of that piece. 1002 would be AMD, but sometimes they have different IDs in the same company. Think acquisitions and the like.
    • DEV_XXXX: IDs the device, i.e. the part. In this case 6760 is an old 7400M series integrated graphics card.
    • SUBSYS_XXXXYYYY: I don't recall this clearly so before I give you wrong information I'll just say that this part of the thing references the sub-vendor (since it was an ASUS laptop it'd be ASUS) and something else.
    • REV_XX: Is self explanatory haha.
    The thing for the subsystem is important and sometimes looked at for important stuff like graphics card because each subvendor could have modified the card one way or another. That's why sometimes generic drivers refuse to be installed even though they supposedly support the X card and instead direct you to the OEM that sold you the thing.

    So generally, when wanting to know what the thing is, do a google search with both the vendor and device IDs (e.g. VEN_1002&DEV_6760), that ought to give you an idea of what hardware it is. And if your OEM doesn't segregate the drivers based on the full serial number of the machine at least you'd know you're looking for graphic drivers for that part in their list.

    Aaaaaaand I think that's it.

    Well, one little thing that could be related to that brightness thing, one of the (maybe the) useful applications that tend to come with laptops is the one handling keyboard special keys if any. For example in our case the Quick Access thing would display in-screen an icon showing when you press CapsLock or NumLock or something to let you know, since the laptop doesn't have any visual indicative that it's on.

    So after the drivers are all installed, either by Windows itself or manually, I'd still install that application. The rest doesn't interest me to be honest, but to each their own. I'm also one that always installs things cleanly after getting a new machine haha.

    Ohhhhh and if you wanted to go overboard, you could even make a spreadsheet with all of the data, the various versions of the drivers (say... OEM, Windows Update and upstream) and see which one is newer, which one works best, etc. Sometimes OEM (e.g. Acer) would match with Windows Update, but sometimes Windows Update drivers are newer, and upstream is generally newer too but chances are those weren't tested or validated for that machine.

    Darn... why do I always en up writing so much?!?!
  • JordanB
    JordanB ACE Posts: 3,729 Pathfinder
    I'm not an Acer employee.