helios 300(PH315-51) New SSD a problem with reinstalling Windows 10

Peepcz
Peepcz Member Posts: 7

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edited November 2023 in 2019 Archives
Hi, I have Acer predator helios 300(PH315-51). I bought new ssd samsung evo970 500gb and I wanted reinstall system to ssd. Problem is that I cannot boot USB disk in boot menu. BIOS has version 1.19 and I cannot find there option how set up for booting from USB.
I tryed take out hard drive and boot USB just with ssd disc inside, but still USB wasnt find. 
Thanks for your help ;)

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  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,077 Trailblazer
    edited November 2018
    Hi,
    Could you please tell us how you made the bootable USB disk, if you have used Rufus, did you select GPT partition type?
    https://www.intowindows.com/create-uefi-bootable-usb-of-windows-10/
  • Peepcz
    Peepcz Member Posts: 7

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    Hi,
    Could you please tell us how you made the bootable USB disk, if you have used Rufus, did you select GPT partition type?
    https://www.intowindows.com/create-uefi-bootable-usb-of-windows-10/
    It was made with Rufus, but I have on USB windows 8.1. Windows need to be same? Like 10?
  • Hi @Peepcz
    If you are trying to install Windows 8.1, that could be the problem, try Windows 10 and see whether you are able to install.
  • Peepcz
    Peepcz Member Posts: 7

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    Hi @Peepcz
    If you are trying to install Windows 8.1, that could be the problem, try Windows 10 and see whether you are able to install.
    Hi, I tryed and in that moment I can see boot USB. So I take out hdd and tryed install. But alltimes after first installation when system need restart, after restart start installation again. It isnt continue, just start again. And that happen all times. But when I tryed install windows to hdd, not ssd, all works fine and after first restart installation continue to full instal of windows.
  • Peepcz
    Peepcz Member Posts: 7

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    Peepcz said:
    Hi @Peepcz
    If you are trying to install Windows 8.1, that could be the problem, try Windows 10 and see whether you are able to install.
    Hi, I tryed and in that moment I can see boot USB. So I take out hdd and tryed install. But alltimes after first installation when system need restart, after restart start installation again. It isnt continue, just start again. And that happen all times. But when I tryed install windows to hdd, not ssd, all works fine and after first restart installation continue to full instal of windows.
    @brummyfan2
  • Hi,
    When installation finishes when you try to install on the SSD, you have to remove the USB, then it won't try to install again.
  • Peepcz
    Peepcz Member Posts: 7

    Tinkerer

    Hi,
    When installation finishes when you try to install on the SSD, you have to remove the USB, then it won't try to install again.
    I did it, but in that moment I see just screen with no bootable device.
  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,077 Trailblazer
    Answer ✓
    Hi,
    Could you please go to BIOS and check whether it's in AHCI or IRST with Optane for SATA mode, if both options are available, try switching to AHCI mode and try installing again.

  • Peepcz
    Peepcz Member Posts: 7

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    Hi,
    Could you please go to BIOS and check whether it's in AHCI or IRST with Optane for SATA mode, if both options are available, try switching to AHCI mode and try installing again.

    I will try, but I think that I tryed it before, but I will do it again. Is is all how I should set up BIOS for that? I tryed many options, and last time I set up to default. 
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,257 Pathfinder
    edited November 2018
    Just a reminder if you are on uefi boot mode when you create the bootable usb you have to create it in GPT mode because uefi does not support MBR and also have you hdd/ssd partition formatted to GPT or it won't work on my G3-572 we can't change the sata mode in bios even changing uefi to legacy there is no access to change it this is why i didn't downgraded to win7 yet tried to install it in another partition in dual boot but there's no way it wont work goes bsod on install (legacy mode) so ill just leave as it is for now might just wipe win10 from the 2tb m.2 and just install 7 to see if it works that way (when i have some free time) :)


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  • Peepcz
    Peepcz Member Posts: 7

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    So I finally did it. I use second way and made clone throught samsung migrate apps to new ssd and everythink works great. 
    Anyway, thank you how your help and advices ;)
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,257 Pathfinder
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    Peepcz said:
    So I finally did it. I use second way and made clone throught samsung migrate apps to new ssd and everythink works great. 
    Anyway, thank you how your help and advices ;)
    Best easiest way to replace the main os ssd m.2 is cloning :)


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    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
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  • Deejay_tech
    Deejay_tech Member Posts: 356 Seasoned Practitioner WiFi Icon
    Peepcz said:
    So I finally did it. I use second way and made clone throught samsung migrate apps to new ssd and everythink works great. 
    Anyway, thank you how your help and advices ;)
    yeah that's the way to clone Samsung evo 970 on this helios predator m/c. this is a acer bios bug or firmware incompability between the two.
    when I had got the evo 970 (2 months back) and cloned it successfully using built in windows system backup and restore , upon reboot the m/c would not boot, it was as if the acer bios was somehow pointing to the win10 loader that the hdd is the boot drive and not the ssd. (# hdd0 was the hdd as per bios)
    ultimately even I had to use Samsung migration tool to clone successfully and use the ssd as normal win 10 system drive.
    thankfully I had nvme to msata adapter to put in the original Hynix ssd in the msata slot for cloning.
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  • Karthi345404
    Karthi345404 Member Posts: 1 New User
    Hi,
    Could you please go to BIOS and check whether it's in AHCI or IRST with Optane for SATA mode, if both options are available, try switching to AHCI mode and try installing again.

    I have tried that. It worked before. But on my acer nitro 5 I updated the firmware(or maybe it happened even before that) and I cannot find that option now. It is missing!!!