Acer Aspire E5-575-52JF m.2 nvme support

sshade
sshade Member Posts: 2 New User
edited October 2023 in 2020 Archives

Does the E5-575-52JF (i5-6200u CPU) support a m.2 nvme drive?

Is there a specific version of BIOS required?

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  • sshade
    sshade Member Posts: 2 New User

    Thanks brummyfan2!

     

    Anyone - thoughts of NVMe connection only PCIe 3.0 x2  width versus 3.0 x4  .... roughly half the performance?

    Anyone install a Samsung 960 EVO 256, MyDigitalSSD BPx 240, or Plextor M8Pe 256 successfully? any issues?

  • ssalaheddine31
    ssalaheddine31 Member Posts: 3 New User

    hi man in my laptop i find port 1.2.3 and 4 with

    maximum link width : 1x 

    Current Link Width: 1x

    but port 5 (the last port) with 

    Maximum Link Width: 4x

    Current Link Width: 4x

    Maximum Link Speed: 5.0 GT/s

    Current Link Speed: 2.5 GT/s

    Slot Power Limit: 25.000 W

    so my laptop support  m.2 nvme or not ?

    i need your help 

    [sorry for my bad english]  

  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,077 Trailblazer

    ssalaheddine31 wrote:

    hi man in my laptop i find port 1.2.3 and 4 with

    maximum link width : 1x 

    Current Link Width: 1x

    but port 5 (the last port) with 

    Maximum Link Width: 4x

    Current Link Width: 4x

    Maximum Link Speed: 5.0 GT/s

    Current Link Speed: 2.5 GT/s

    Slot Power Limit: 25.000 W

    so my laptop support  m.2 nvme or not ?

    i need your help 

    [sorry for my bad english]  


    Hi,

    Yes, you can, your English is better than my French, so no need to apologiseSmiley Wink

    EDIT: Could you please post the HWiNFO64 snip of that PCI Express Port expanded and showing the Maximum Link width Speeds, if you can, expand all the Ports, I would like to check why the speed showing as 5.0GT/s.

  • ssalaheddine31
    ssalaheddine31 Member Posts: 3 New User

    thnak you man for reply Smiley Happy 

    image : image

  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,077 Trailblazer

    ssalaheddine31 wrote:

    thnak you man for reply Smiley Happy 

    image : image


    Hi,

    Sorry, your CPU will not support a NVMe SSD, NVMe SSD uses PCIe 3.0x4  you have version 2.0Smiley Sad

  • ssalaheddine31
    ssalaheddine31 Member Posts: 3 New User

    ok . :'( 

    merci 

  • pankajn
    pankajn Member Posts: 1 New User

    Hi there,

     

    My laptop shows the following:

    Laptop.png

     

     Can you please guide me if I have to use NVME or Sata 3 SSD?

     

    Thanks.

     

     

     

     

  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,077 Trailblazer

    pankajn wrote:

    Hi there,

     

    My laptop shows the following:

    Laptop.png

     

     Can you please guide me if I have to use NVME or Sata 3 SSD?

     

    Thanks.

     

     

     

     


    Hi,

    Yes, you can use NVMe SSD or SATA M.2 SSD, both will work, you will not notice the difference between them but NVMe fares better only when you transfer large files, NVMe will work at half the speed advertised by the manufacturers, still 3x the SATA III drive.

     

  • Yuda_Aditya
    Yuda_Aditya Member Posts: 1 New User
    > @brummyfan2 said:
    > pankajn wrote: Hi there,
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    > Hi,
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    > Yes, you can use NVMe SSD or SATA M.2 SSD, both will work, you will not notice the difference between them but NVMe fares better only when you transfer large files, NVMe will work at half the speed advertised by the manufacturers, still 3x the SATA III drive.
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    i wanna buy a ssd , i need to clarify is that my acer aspire e5 475g I5-7200U will work using NVMe m.2 ?
    i have same picture like pankajn
  • slnacer
    slnacer Member Posts: 54 Devotee WiFi Icon
    hi
    1. "Current Link Width " : Is this HWindfo64 available for Linux? How do i get this "current link width "dataitem in linux for PCI devices in linux?
    From lshw i dont see the above data ..any suggestions?
    2. btw my latop mode is E5-575-50RM one. Can i assume all E15 series models have provision for m.2 SSD slot first of all
    thx in advance
  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,077 Trailblazer
    > @brummyfan2 said:
    > pankajn wrote: Hi there,
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    > My laptop shows the following:
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    >  Can you please guide me if I have to use NVME or Sata 3 SSD?
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    > Thanks.
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    > Hi,
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    > Yes, you can use NVMe SSD or SATA M.2 SSD, both will work, you will not notice the difference between them but NVMe fares better only when you transfer large files, NVMe will work at half the speed advertised by the manufacturers, still 3x the SATA III drive.
    >
    >  

    i wanna buy a ssd , i need to clarify is that my acer aspire e5 475g I5-7200U will work using NVMe m.2 ?
    i have same picture like pankajn

    Hi,
    Could you please check whether your model is E5-575G, if so, yes you can install NVMe SSD but make sure that your Maximum Link width has the value of at least 2x.
  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,077 Trailblazer
    slnacer said:
    hi
    1. "Current Link Width " : Is this HWindfo64 available for Linux? How do i get this "current link width "dataitem in linux for PCI devices in linux?
    From lshw i dont see the above data ..any suggestions?
    2. btw my latop mode is E5-575-50RM one. Can i assume all E15 series models have provision for m.2 SSD slot first of all
    thx in advance

    Hi,
    I am not familiar with Linux, you may have to wait for someone who is familiar with Linux systems to answer, sorry.
    As for the second question, yes you have a slot for M.2 SSD.

  • slnacer
    slnacer Member Posts: 54 Devotee WiFi Icon
    Thanks for reply.
    i found out "current link width " data item for PCI root port/devices from "lspci -vv" command which gives verbose details.
    i paste the those lines below for the 3 PCI bridge hardware sections/items in the output for you to see if you can give your thoughts/inputs on capabilities.

    00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d18 (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    ...
    LnkCap: Port #9, Speed 8GT/s, Width x2, ASPM L0s L1, Exit Latency L0s unlimited, L1 <4us
    ...

    00:1d.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d1a (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    ...
    LnkCap: Port #11, Speed 8GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L0s <1us, L1 <16us
    ....

    00:1d.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d1b (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    ...
    LnkCap: Port #12, Speed 8GT/s, Width x1, ASPM L1, Exit Latency L0s <1us, L1 <16us
    .....

    Thanks in advance
    slnacer
  • slnacer
    slnacer Member Posts: 54 Devotee WiFi Icon
    Pasting the full capabilities for PCI bridge device section with root port #9 as below:
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    00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d18 (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 122
    Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
    I/O behind bridge: 00005000-00005fff
    Memory behind bridge: 90100000-902fffff
    Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000090300000-00000000904fffff
    Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
    BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
    PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
    Capabilities: [40] Express (v2) Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
    DevCap: MaxPayload 256 bytes, PhantFunc 0
    ExtTag- RBE+
    DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
    RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop-
    MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
    DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr+ TransPend-
    LnkCap: Port #9, Speed 8GT/s, Width x2, ASPM L0s L1, Exit Latency L0s unlimited, L1 <4us
    ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep+ BwNot+ ASPMOptComp+
    .....................

    thx
    slnacer
  • slnacer
    slnacer Member Posts: 54 Devotee WiFi Icon
    Sorry for my truncated paste above:
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    00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 9d18 (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
    Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx+
    Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
    Latency: 0, Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
    Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 122
    Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
    I/O behind bridge: 00005000-00005fff
    Memory behind bridge: 90100000-902fffff
    Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 0000000090300000-00000000904fffff
    Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
    BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
    PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
    Capabilities: [40] Express (v2) Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
    DevCap: MaxPayload 256 bytes, PhantFunc 0
    ExtTag- RBE+
    DevCtl: Report errors: Correctable- Non-Fatal- Fatal- Unsupported-
    RlxdOrd- ExtTag- PhantFunc- AuxPwr- NoSnoop-
    MaxPayload 128 bytes, MaxReadReq 128 bytes
    DevSta: CorrErr- UncorrErr- FatalErr- UnsuppReq- AuxPwr+ TransPend-
    LnkCap: Port #9, Speed 8GT/s, Width x2, ASPM L0s L1, Exit Latency L0s unlimited, L1 <4us
    ClockPM- Surprise- LLActRep+ BwNot+ ASPMOptComp+
    LnkCtl: ASPM L1 Enabled; RCB 64 bytes Disabled- CommClk-
    ExtSynch- ClockPM- AutWidDis- BWInt- AutBWInt-
    LnkSta: Speed 2.5GT/s, Width x0, TrErr- Train- SlotClk+ DLActive- BWMgmt- ABWMgmt-
    SltCap: AttnBtn- PwrCtrl- MRL- AttnInd- PwrInd- HotPlug+ Surprise+
    Slot #0, PowerLimit 0.000W; Interlock- NoCompl+
    SltCtl: Enable: AttnBtn- PwrFlt- MRL- PresDet+ CmdCplt- HPIrq+ LinkChg+
    Control: AttnInd Unknown, PwrInd Unknown, Power- Interlock-
    SltSta: Status: AttnBtn- PowerFlt- MRL- CmdCplt- PresDet- Interlock-
    Changed: MRL- PresDet- LinkState-
    RootCtl: ErrCorrectable- ErrNon-Fatal- ErrFatal- PMEIntEna+ CRSVisible-
    RootCap: CRSVisible-
    RootSta: PME ReqID 0000, PMEStatus- PMEPending-
    DevCap2: Completion Timeout: Range ABC, TimeoutDis+, LTR+, OBFF Via WAKE# ARIFwd+
    DevCtl2: Completion Timeout: 50us to 50ms, TimeoutDis-, LTR+, OBFF Disabled ARIFwd-
    LnkCtl2: Target Link Speed: 8GT/s, EnterCompliance- SpeedDis-
    Transmit Margin: Normal Operating Range, EnterModifiedCompliance- ComplianceSOS-
    Compliance De-emphasis: -6dB
    LnkSta2: Current De-emphasis Level: -3.5dB, EqualizationComplete-, EqualizationPhase1-
    EqualizationPhase2-, EqualizationPhase3-, LinkEqualizationRequest-
    Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
    Address: fee00218 Data: 0000
    Capabilities: [90] Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 115f
    Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 3
    Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
    Status: D0 NoSoftRst- PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
    Kernel driver in use: pcieport
    Kernel modules: shpchp
  • slnacer
    slnacer Member Posts: 54 Devotee WiFi Icon
    how does one post a pic/screenshot here? i simply seem to miss the rich edit/html here in this forum in my browser.?
    thanks
  • brummyfan2
    brummyfan2 ACE Posts: 28,077 Trailblazer

    Hi,
    You need to find out about the Port 9, which CPU installed in your laptop?
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