w700p RAM

StoneRyno
StoneRyno Member Posts: 39 New User

Is it feasible to upgrade the RAM? If I want to have both my e-reader and firefox open at the same time get constant pestering from windows that it is running out of it and needs me to close one or the other. After a typical reboot less than 50% is being used so there is just over 2GB free out of 4GB. This is the only scenario where I have the problem but is one of the main uses of my w700p. My only other option is to look to do some serious tweeking to free up wasted RAM so that there is sufficient free to rid me of the constant nagging from it being too full while using both firefox and e-reader at the same time.

 

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  • 1stTimeAcer
    1stTimeAcer Member Posts: 96 Enthusiast WiFi Icon

    Unfortunately no. The RAM is soldered on to the board and thus does not have slots for you to upgrade, and it's a shame that they don't offer models with more memory.

  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,219 Trailblazer

    Are you sure the message is about RAM? Windows generates other messages that can be misconstrued...

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  • Ethos
    Ethos Member Posts: 160 Troubleshooter

    i dont think normal end user gonna hook up and power up reflow machine and heat and replace memory BGA chips for bigger ones ..  pleeaase ..  simply NO .. not poss.. nothing is poss only mSATA SSD is poss. . rest all HW soldered onto MB .. 

    Thnx

  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,219 Trailblazer

    My point was that if the poster was having issues with free space on the drive or Windows swap space, saying "no you can't upgrade the RAM" wasn't really all that helpful ... though it would be accurate.

     

    I typically run my system with Firefox running with four or five active tabs, with a solitaire game running and with a Linux machine running as a virtual machine. That puts my memory usage at 3.0GB and I've never seen a message from Windows warning me I'm low on memory. I believe there is a very good chance the original poster was running into a different error, and misconstruing it as low memory.

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  • ptrkhh
    ptrkhh Member Posts: 72 Troubleshooter

    Maybe you could give the memory usage breakdown from the Task Manager, because I have only 1 GB RAM used after a reboot.

     

    You could increase the pagefile size as well. The performance decrease wont be very noticable compared to non-SSD notebooks.

  • StoneRyno
    StoneRyno Member Posts: 39 New User

    billsey wrote:

    Are you sure the message is about RAM? Windows generates other messages that can be misconstrued...


    Not 100% sure but pretty sure.

     


    ptrkhh wrote:

    Maybe you could give the memory usage breakdown from the Task Manager, because I have only 1 GB RAM used after a reboot.

     

    You could increase the pagefile size as well. The performance decrease wont be very noticable compared to non-SSD notebooks.


     Right now task manager shows 2GB used with having just freshly rebooted and opened firefox and the e-reader with an e-book open. And indicated currently firefox using 500MB and the e-reader using 200MB. I know with firefox that amount of usage goes up as I reload more tabs (at startup of firefox it only reloads the current tab and the rest as accessed). I have seen it using as much as 1GB maybe more RAM. I turned off the pagefile (virtual memory) as I have with my PC and previous PCs as I figured it offered the significant performance boost I see/have seen on them. However this is my first experience wih SSD. I at some point in time was told that with SSD you don't want the pagefile as it will significantly wear the SSD reducing life expectancy more than a desireable amount. Something that did concern me. I expect that I will be using this for as long as possible maybe 10 years or longer as I see no particular reason to replace like my desktop (replaced every 6 years).

  • ptrkhh
    ptrkhh Member Posts: 72 Troubleshooter
    Well, I dont think an Acer could last for 10 years.

    I have tried disabling the pagefile, and the warning came almost everytime. I dont know why Windows memory warning comes even when there is still 1 GB of free memory.
    For me, I set the initial size for the page file to just 16 MB, but the maximum size is 4 GB. I think its the best way to overcome this issue for now.
  • StoneRyno
    StoneRyno Member Posts: 39 New User

    ptrkhh wrote:
    Well, I dont think an Acer could last for 10 years.

    I have tried disabling the pagefile, and the warning came almost everytime. I dont know why Windows memory warning comes even when there is still 1 GB of free memory.
    For me, I set the initial size for the page file to just 16 MB, but the maximum size is 4 GB. I think its the best way to overcome this issue for now.

    This may be what I have to do if it continues to be a problem with 8.1. I've been up and running for awhile now and it hasn't happened yet. However total RAM used is more than it was at my last post. Currently 3GB used and the e-reader shows 50MB and firefox 600MB. So while these two together are using no more RAM than before something else is. But not just one process. I base this on everything that uses 2MB or more RAM in the processes list does even add up to 1GB of the 3GB used.

  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,219 Trailblazer

    You might try testing with add-ons disabled in Firefox. I've seen a number of instances where add-ons had memory leaks that would gradually increase memory usage over days of use.

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  • StoneRyno
    StoneRyno Member Posts: 39 New User

    The possibility that the problem is one or more memory leaks was on my mind. This latest version of firefox I have includes a disabled by default on plugins. Which means I have to choose to ok once or on a case by case term for each plugin. If there were a memory leak and I were to close the offending application would the memory used up by the leak clear or remain filled?

  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,219 Trailblazer

    By definition memory leaked is out on the floor and can't be used without a restart. Typical leaks happen when an add-on asks for memory, uses it for a while, then forgets to free it. When the app is closed, it only frees what it remembers.

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