Predator Orion 7000 Cloning original factory M.w PCIe C: drive.

Dragon4551
Dragon4551 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard WiFi Icon
edited April 2023 in Predator Desktops

Hi, I recently purchased the Predator Orion 7000 that came with Win 11 installed along with the recovery system in a hidden partition. Since then I have installed a second PCIe Gen 4 M.2 Samsung 980 PRO 1 TB PCIe 4.0 (up to 7,000 MB/s) NVMe M.2 (2280) Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) which i will use only to install games on. However being an amateur I did not realise that the M.2 ssd that is. Used with the operating system on should ideally be the fastest drive. My C: drive is from Micron which compared to the Samsung 980 pro is definitely a lot slower. Therefore in the near future I would like to clone the entire C: drive including the hidden recovery partition onto a Samsung 990 pro M.2 1TB. Is this possible and if so what would be the best and easiest way to do this remembering this 72 year old is an amateur.with no knowledge of cloning anything.

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  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 14,043 Trailblazer
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    Hi, I am 78 and migrated entire laptop drives to external drives but always used image files instead of cloning, not only because my freeware backup programs don't include cloning but image files are much smaller and I find image files easier to restore and to mount in Windows File Explorer just to find something or to create a virtual drive that boots. I use monthly (after each Windows update) W7 Update>Create an image file in W11 (22H2) and for an extra image in case something goes wrong I make one with EaseUS Todo (freeware that includes mounting image files). Windows restores image files with the Recovery USB flash drive, super easy and very friendly menus, takes 40 minutes for 120 GB file to restore without losing a single folder, file or disk volume (3).

  • davidwarner007
    davidwarner007 Member Posts: 6

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    Answer ✓

    Cloning the original factory M.2 PCIe C: drive can be a useful way to create a backup or transfer your system to a new drive. To clone the drive, you can follow these steps:

    1. Connect the new drive: Connect the new M.2 PCIe drive to your computer. This can be done using an external enclosure or by installing the new drive in an available slot inside your computer.
    2. Download cloning software: Download and install cloning software, such as EaseUS Todo Backup, Macrium Reflect, or Acronis True Image. These programs are designed to copy the contents of one drive to another.
    3. Launch the cloning software: Launch the cloning software and select the option to clone a drive.
    4. Select the source and target drives: Select the original factory M.2 PCIe C: drive as the source drive and the new drive as the target drive.
    5. Configure the cloning options: Choose the desired cloning options, such as sector-by-sector cloning or intelligent cloning, depending on your needs and preferences.
    6. Start the cloning process: Start the cloning process and wait for it to complete. This can take anywhere from several minutes to several hours, depending on the size of the drive and the speed of your system.
    7. Verify the cloned drive: Once the cloning process is complete, verify that the new drive has been successfully cloned and that all files and programs are present and functioning properly.

    Overall, cloning the original factory M.2 PCIe C: drive can be a useful way to create a backup or transfer your system to a new drive. However, it is important to note that cloning can sometimes lead to errors or data loss, so it is always a good idea to create a backup of your data before beginning the process.


  • patriot2
    patriot2 Member Posts: 5

    Tinkerer

    Answer ✓

    You can download the Samsung Data Migration Software which will allow you to clone from any drive to a Samsung branded drive,link below.

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  • Puraw
    Puraw ACE, Member Posts: 14,043 Trailblazer
    Answer ✓

    Hi, I am 78 and migrated entire laptop drives to external drives but always used image files instead of cloning, not only because my freeware backup programs don't include cloning but image files are much smaller and I find image files easier to restore and to mount in Windows File Explorer just to find something or to create a virtual drive that boots. I use monthly (after each Windows update) W7 Update>Create an image file in W11 (22H2) and for an extra image in case something goes wrong I make one with EaseUS Todo (freeware that includes mounting image files). Windows restores image files with the Recovery USB flash drive, super easy and very friendly menus, takes 40 minutes for 120 GB file to restore without losing a single folder, file or disk volume (3).

  • chugzilla
    chugzilla Member Posts: 729 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon

    dragon4551 i thought the same thing, except my 5000 came with a stock samsung 1tb ssd that windows is on, i added a crucial p5-4th gen, 2 tb gaming ssd in slot 2, and have all my steam games on it, everything works perfect so i decided not to use the crucial cloning software and leave everything as is.

  • davidwarner007
    davidwarner007 Member Posts: 6

    Tinkerer

    Answer ✓

    Cloning the original factory M.2 PCIe C: drive can be a useful way to create a backup or transfer your system to a new drive. To clone the drive, you can follow these steps:

    1. Connect the new drive: Connect the new M.2 PCIe drive to your computer. This can be done using an external enclosure or by installing the new drive in an available slot inside your computer.
    2. Download cloning software: Download and install cloning software, such as EaseUS Todo Backup, Macrium Reflect, or Acronis True Image. These programs are designed to copy the contents of one drive to another.
    3. Launch the cloning software: Launch the cloning software and select the option to clone a drive.
    4. Select the source and target drives: Select the original factory M.2 PCIe C: drive as the source drive and the new drive as the target drive.
    5. Configure the cloning options: Choose the desired cloning options, such as sector-by-sector cloning or intelligent cloning, depending on your needs and preferences.
    6. Start the cloning process: Start the cloning process and wait for it to complete. This can take anywhere from several minutes to several hours, depending on the size of the drive and the speed of your system.
    7. Verify the cloned drive: Once the cloning process is complete, verify that the new drive has been successfully cloned and that all files and programs are present and functioning properly.

    Overall, cloning the original factory M.2 PCIe C: drive can be a useful way to create a backup or transfer your system to a new drive. However, it is important to note that cloning can sometimes lead to errors or data loss, so it is always a good idea to create a backup of your data before beginning the process.


  • Dragon4551
    Dragon4551 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard WiFi Icon

    Hi, well when I ordered my 7000 the writer from the site also said it came with a Samsung drive as the system drive. However in reality it turned out to be a Micron drive. I have a lot of faith in Samsung drives over the years and so the Micron drive was a disappointment

  • Dragon4551
    Dragon4551 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard WiFi Icon

    Hi all, thanks for all your input. However being a complete novice I do not know what options I have to have in the cloning process, also does cloning also clone the invisible partition that holds the factory original Windows 11 installation. I need to be able to do this as I do not hold a physical version of Windows 11 and don't intent to pay extra to do so.

  • chugzilla
    chugzilla Member Posts: 729 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon

    well, the crucial came with cloning software, i used it already and it went well and worked, so im not sure about the samsung you purchased if it came with any software, mine came with acronis true image for crucial its called, and the crucial i bought is better and faster than the samsung that came with my 5000, anyways keep us posted and tc n gl.

  • Dragon4551
    Dragon4551 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard WiFi Icon

    The Samsung 980 pro that is my second drive with the games came with no software. However, I did download its Magician software that checks speed and optimised the drive but it does not clone or partition drives.

    https://www.partitionwizard.com/clone-disk/what-is-samsung-data-magician.html#

  • chugzilla
    chugzilla Member Posts: 729 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon

    yeah, i also got that but it wont read my drives, says they are oem and not true samsung lol, im like ok? lol

  • patriot2
    patriot2 Member Posts: 5

    Tinkerer

    Answer ✓

    You can download the Samsung Data Migration Software which will allow you to clone from any drive to a Samsung branded drive,link below.

  • Dragon4551
    Dragon4551 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard WiFi Icon

    Thanks for the answers, however reading through the Samsung Data Migration manual it definately states that it will not clone manufacturers recovery partition if the OEM drive is not Samsung. I guess that has answered my question, so will need to find another cloning software that does.

  • patriot2
    patriot2 Member Posts: 5

    Tinkerer

    Oh thanks for pointing that out i was not aware of that.

  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,601 Trailblazer

    I used Macrium Reflect to clone my lasy system without issues.

    Click on "Like" if you find my answer useful or click on "Yes" if it answers your question.
  • Dragon4551
    Dragon4551 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard WiFi Icon

    does that also do the OEM hidden partition with the Windows factory reset and recovery etc

  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,601 Trailblazer

    The existing partitions are copied during the cloning process. That includes the hidden EFI and recovery partitions.

    Click on "Like" if you find my answer useful or click on "Yes" if it answers your question.
  • Dragon4551
    Dragon4551 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard WiFi Icon
  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,601 Trailblazer

    Also, don't bother to purchase the program, the free versions clones just fine. :)

    Click on "Like" if you find my answer useful or click on "Yes" if it answers your question.
  • Dragon4551
    Dragon4551 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard WiFi Icon

    Good to know, thanks again for your help 👍🏻🤗