Is the predator orion 3000 upgradable up to i9 setup?

Arthas
Arthas Member Posts: 13

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in Predator Desktops

i can’t find any predator orion 5000 or 7000 in my country. What are their difference?

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  • GotBanned
    GotBanned Member Posts: 654 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
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    I have not seen anyone do this, but at least in theory it should be possible. See the thread below.

    https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/675904/what-processor-can-i-upgrade-too-predator-po3-640

    If you do this, please share your experience with the forum. Personally I would not even try this, because the cooling will most likely be insufficient ⇒ the CPU will throttle under full load and render the upgrade pointless.

  • GotBanned
    GotBanned Member Posts: 654 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited June 2023 Answer ✓

    If you really want to have i9 in this small box, you can replace the original cooler with something like Noctua NH-U9S.

    Below is a link to Noctua's site that tells which i9s are supported. I'd pick a 12th gen CPU that will be supported with "Best turbo/overclocking headroom" by the cooler. Unfortunately I can't tell if i9s will work on your motherboard (possible BIOS issues) or is the U9S enough to keep the CPU from throttling.

    https://ncc.noctua.at/coolers/NH-U9S-13/cpu/Intel/LGA%201700?q=i9

    Screenshot 2023-06-04 125045.png

  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,219 Trailblazer
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    The PO3-640 models use the 12th gen CPUs, typically an i7-12700 or i7-12700F. On those you can drop an i9-12900 or i9-1200F without other changes, though if you are in that deep it would be a great time to upgrade the cooling to the Noctua NH-U9S at the same time. The PO3-650 models aren't yet available IIRC and they support the 13th gen CPUs. Again though they will ship with the i5 and i7 CPUs but should work without other mods with the i9-13900 and i9-13900F. All of those CPU have a TDP of 65W…

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  • Alejandro_AC
    Alejandro_AC ACE Posts: 13,317 Trailblazer

    Hi @Arthas can you please indicate the exact model of the computer and the version of Windows installed?

    Thank you.
    All the best.

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  • Arthas
    Arthas Member Posts: 13

    Tinkerer

    https://www.acer.com/us-en/predator/desktops-and-all-in-ones/predator-orion/orion-3000

    The latest orion 3000 sir. The official link above.

  • Alejandro_AC
    Alejandro_AC ACE Posts: 13,317 Trailblazer

    Thanks for the information, that is the model of the series, but the specific model must be something similar or equal to this:
    PO3-630
    Is that the model?

    Thank you and sorry for the inconvenience.
    All the best.

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  • Arthas
    Arthas Member Posts: 13

    Tinkerer

    P03-640 model. Is it upgradable up to i9 setup in the future? Or no?

  • Alejandro_AC
    Alejandro_AC ACE Posts: 13,317 Trailblazer
    edited June 2023

    According to the information in the service manual, it supports Intel LGA 1700 socket processors:

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    All the best.

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  • Arthas
    Arthas Member Posts: 13

    Tinkerer

    if i changed the motherboard too is the TOWER/CASING of ORION 3000 PO3-640 can handle i9 components?

  • Alejandro_AC
    Alejandro_AC ACE Posts: 13,317 Trailblazer

    I don't understand, did you change the original motherboard of the equipment?
    If you change it, you should check with the manufacturer of the new board what processors it supports.
    If I don't change it, that's the data, go to Intel to find out the compatible i9 processors.

    All the best.

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  • Arthas
    Arthas Member Posts: 13

    Tinkerer

    you didn’t understand the point. And you couldn’t understand properly. What im asking is IF CAN YOU UPGRADE the TOWER/ CASING of ORION 3000 to i9? Only yes or no should be the answer.

  • GotBanned
    GotBanned Member Posts: 654 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
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    I have not seen anyone do this, but at least in theory it should be possible. See the thread below.

    https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/675904/what-processor-can-i-upgrade-too-predator-po3-640

    If you do this, please share your experience with the forum. Personally I would not even try this, because the cooling will most likely be insufficient ⇒ the CPU will throttle under full load and render the upgrade pointless.

  • Arthas
    Arthas Member Posts: 13

    Tinkerer

    Oh well in that case i wish ACER will produce more ORION 7000 here in the philippines. WE NEED DESKTOPS LIKE THIS SOO BADLY. we are only no#1 when it comes to acer laptops. And it looks like the orion 3000 could not handle the heat of i9 specs because of the midrange size of the tower. Too small for ventilation 😞

  • GotBanned
    GotBanned Member Posts: 654 Seasoned Specialist WiFi Icon
    edited June 2023 Answer ✓

    If you really want to have i9 in this small box, you can replace the original cooler with something like Noctua NH-U9S.

    Below is a link to Noctua's site that tells which i9s are supported. I'd pick a 12th gen CPU that will be supported with "Best turbo/overclocking headroom" by the cooler. Unfortunately I can't tell if i9s will work on your motherboard (possible BIOS issues) or is the U9S enough to keep the CPU from throttling.

    https://ncc.noctua.at/coolers/NH-U9S-13/cpu/Intel/LGA%201700?q=i9

    Screenshot 2023-06-04 125045.png

  • Arthas
    Arthas Member Posts: 13

    Tinkerer

    thankyou for the advice. I will take note of that i would rather buy the orion 7000/ orion X or whatever is available in my country.

  • billsey
    billsey ACE Posts: 34,219 Trailblazer
    Answer ✓

    The PO3-640 models use the 12th gen CPUs, typically an i7-12700 or i7-12700F. On those you can drop an i9-12900 or i9-1200F without other changes, though if you are in that deep it would be a great time to upgrade the cooling to the Noctua NH-U9S at the same time. The PO3-650 models aren't yet available IIRC and they support the 13th gen CPUs. Again though they will ship with the i5 and i7 CPUs but should work without other mods with the i9-13900 and i9-13900F. All of those CPU have a TDP of 65W…

    Click on "Like" if you find my answer useful or click on "Yes" if it answers your question.

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