Predator Orion 3000 PO3-620 fit into my case im thinking about upgrading it.

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1nside
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edited December 2022 in Predator Desktops

I have Predator Orion 3000 PO3-620 with i7-10700F and RTX 3070 8GB, so In warzone my CPU temp rise up to 80 Celsius, Is it normal?

BTW would Noctua NH-D15 fit into my case im thinking about upgrading it.

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  • GotBanned
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    I know the feeling. Anyway, I tuned it up as much as I can and gave it to my friend _without_ the 3070. His three daughters are happily playing with it now.

  • GotBanned
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    You are welcome.

    The small size of the case makes it almost impossible to use any AIO without doing some serious violence to the top panel. Not really worth it. Besides, a mere 120mm AIO is barely enough. It would be better to go for at least 240mm or bigger - the bigger the better.

    And then there is the rear panel. It is barely wide enough for a 92mm fan, so there's no place for improvements either. :(

    And this is not all. AIO (pump and fans) would need to get power from somewhere. The motherboard has very limited fan connectors and I'm not sure that the CPU FAN connector is powerful enough to run water pump and fans without giving up the ghost.

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    Noctua NH-D9L and NH-U9S seem to be the most popular options. There might be some newer tower cooler models that might fit, but before you order anything you need to measure the cooler clearance and then visit Noctua's site and check specs sheets.

    Although those I mention are smallish in size, they do the job pretty well. Here's one thread about temps you may have missed.

    Hard to tell from the picture, but if the RAM is not in the way, and that is a BIG if, you might be able to add another fan to the right fin stack above the RAM modules and use Y-split cable to power them both. Either cooler even with one fan will do a lot better job than what you have now.

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  • 1nside
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    Sometimes like 88 Celsius or something like that

  • GotBanned
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    Temps are pretty normal for such a small and light heatsink. There are many posts on this forum, some with pictures even, about upgrading CPU cooler.

    I did it for lower temps and less noise.

    Unfortunately the cooler you mentioned is too tall for such a small case. Well, unless you cut a cooler sized hole on the side panel!

  • 1nside
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    @GotBanned Thank you for your answer sir.

    What are the best coolers that would fit into my PC?

  • GotBanned
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    I had the same box but with i5-10400f. I replaced that tiny little noisemaker aka "cooler" with Noctua NH-D9L, but majority on this forum went for NH-U9S.


    There are other options as well, but I can't recommend them because I have not used them myself. Forum search will tell you more.

  • 1nside
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    @GotBanned Thank you sir, you are a LEGEND. I will change it ASAP.


    Also is there any way to make ram to faster? Right now i have stock rams they run at 2933mhz but I would like to buy 3200 or 3600 but I want to know it if will run at that speed because I cant find XMP setting at my BIOS or anything about RAM speed aswell.

  • GotBanned
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    Your motherboard has a very limited BIOS. As you already know, you won't be able to use XMP profiles, but it wont allow you to overclock your CPU either. Sucks big time, right?

    Unfortunately spending money on faster RAM would be waste of money. As a matter of fact, most likely it will run even slower than what you have now.

  • 1nside
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    @GotBanned I kinda regret buying it... I mean performance is great and all but BIOS/MOTHERBOARD is total joke.

    I cant even find where to change my CPU Fan RPMS at BIOS...

  • GotBanned
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    I know the feeling. Anyway, I tuned it up as much as I can and gave it to my friend _without_ the 3070. His three daughters are happily playing with it now.

  • 1nside
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    @GotBanned Thanks man for your answers. I will change CPU cooler as fast as possible.

    Maybe u know if any water coolers for CPU that fit into this small PC.

  • GotBanned
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    You are welcome.

    The small size of the case makes it almost impossible to use any AIO without doing some serious violence to the top panel. Not really worth it. Besides, a mere 120mm AIO is barely enough. It would be better to go for at least 240mm or bigger - the bigger the better.

    And then there is the rear panel. It is barely wide enough for a 92mm fan, so there's no place for improvements either. :(

    And this is not all. AIO (pump and fans) would need to get power from somewhere. The motherboard has very limited fan connectors and I'm not sure that the CPU FAN connector is powerful enough to run water pump and fans without giving up the ghost.

  • 1nside
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    @GotBanned Yep as im seeing right now 240mm cpu cooler would not fit... And 120 AIO's is kinda trash so not worth it...


    But talking about cpu coolers that are not water cooled. What dimensions would fit into my? Cuz im thinking about NOCTUA and i want a good NOCTUA but there is so many and idk which would fit and which wouldnt.

  • GotBanned
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    Noctua NH-D9L and NH-U9S seem to be the most popular options. There might be some newer tower cooler models that might fit, but before you order anything you need to measure the cooler clearance and then visit Noctua's site and check specs sheets.

    Although those I mention are smallish in size, they do the job pretty well. Here's one thread about temps you may have missed.

    Hard to tell from the picture, but if the RAM is not in the way, and that is a BIG if, you might be able to add another fan to the right fin stack above the RAM modules and use Y-split cable to power them both. Either cooler even with one fan will do a lot better job than what you have now.

  • 1nside
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    @GotBanned What should be the measurements to fit any cooler? Because im thinking about Deepcool AK620 would it fit?

  • GotBanned
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    No can do. Google tells me that AK600 is 162.1mm tall. Since I don't have PO3 anymore, I can't measure the clearance for you. Sorry! Besides, I don't know if AK600 has the needed hardware for actual installation either.

    People tend to go for those two Noctuas because they have been proven to fit and work.

    There are few mentions of other options. Like THIS.

  • 1nside
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    I7-10700F has LGA1200 so it says that Deepcool AK620 supports it. But i think it wont fit idk.

  • billsey
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    Yeah, it fits the socket but it too tall for the case. Stick with the Noctua, they do a good enough job.

    Click on "Like" if you find my answer useful or click on "Yes" if it answers your question.
  • NeoGeo
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    Although a 120mm AIO isn't as good as a 240mm, it can be vastly improved by using a sandwich mod on the radiator - so a fan on either side of it in a push/pull configuration, this worked great on my Aurora r13 which could only take 120mm AIOs without further modification.