Dramatically slow write speeds on the 2021 Helios 300 PH315-54-760S PCIe 4 NVMe SSD

KeyserTommasi
KeyserTommasi Member Posts: 34 Die Hard WiFi Icon
edited November 2021 in Predator Laptops
Hey guys!

I just got a 2021 Helios 300 - Model Name: PH315-54-760S, currently running the latest version of Windows 11 Home 64-bit:

It comes with a 512GB PCIe 4 M.2 NVMe SSD - Model Name: Micron 3400 MTFDKBA512TFH [Read speed: 6,600 MB/s | Write speed: 3,600 MB/s]:

When I do a read/write speed test with the latest version of CrystalDiskMark, the first test or two after I start the Helios produce normal results:

However, after the first couple of tests, the write speeds drop dramatically, and I cannot get the normal write speeds back - no matter how long I wait before repeating the tests - unless I shut down my laptop and start it again:

Sometimes I don't even need to conduct a couple of tests for the write speed to drop; the very first test can sometimes produce the same slow results shown in the second image.

What's causing this issue and how can I resolve it to prevent the write speeds from dropping? It may be worth mentioning that this is my first experience with an NVMe SSD, so I'm not sure whether this is normal behavior. Thank you!

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Answers

  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    edited November 2021
    KeyserTommasi check the drives thermal if it heats up much it will throttle the speeds same as a cpu/dgpu also it depends on the drives quality and the ability to maintain the speeds for a long period of time usually the more budget drives have lower speeds  either way this is my own personal view on this if anyone else has another answer for this please share :)


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  • KeyserTommasi
    KeyserTommasi Member Posts: 34 Die Hard WiFi Icon
    @xapim Thank you for responding. That would have made sense if both the read and write speeds were affected, but in my case only the write speed is affected, so I don't think that's the reason. Also, I just did another test where the SSD's temperature was 56 degrees Celsius, which is not high at all. Read speed was normal, write speed was 665 MB/s just like my 2nd screenshot above. There's gotta be another reason.

  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    edited November 2021
    KeyserTommasi the other explanation would be in someway a faulty drive as it might happen not only on the big expensive brands but also on mostly oems like yours so the only oher thing you could do here would be send it to acer to get it tested :) or even get another (better) drive to test and compare yourself as if you only use it for gaming and average use its fine but if you do content creation/rendering or any other high demanding works you would need all the speed you can get from any drive :)


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
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    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/  


  • KeyserTommasi
    KeyserTommasi Member Posts: 34 Die Hard WiFi Icon
    To be honest, I don't think it's faulty because I scanned the SSD multiple times with different programs, and they all said it's functioning normally. Also if it were faulty, that should also affect the read speeds as well. I can't really send the laptop back to Acer either either - I bought it from Amazon US but had it shipped overseas. 

    My very uneducated guess is that this is happening because this is an entry level Gen 4 SSD at an entry level capacity (512 GB), and these are usually bound to underperform compared to their higher capacity counterparts. Next year when Gen 5 SSDs hit the market, Gen 4 models will get a nice price drop; that's probably when I'll get one, but for now, it would be great if this issue can be solved, if at all that's possible. 
  • xapim
    xapim ACE Posts: 7,253 Pathfinder
    edited November 2021
    KeyserTommasi the only thing i can think of here (apart from what you have said as its completely correct all oem drives tend to underperform as they are way cheaper thats why the manufacturers use them and not just drives same happens with ram and other hardware after all they will have to save the budget on something after the cpu/dgpu costs) would be the win11 incompatibility/bugs as it was designed for 12th gen in mind not 11th gen i dunno why are they shipping 11th gen with win11 maybe microsoft its forcing all manufacturers to do so so they can force everyone to update same as they did on win 10 as if the manufacturers do not do whatever microsoft says they will remove the licensing to use the all OS so technically all manufacturers have to obey to microsofts terms and rules and whatever they say must be done :p im still on 1809 an will never move up also still have machines on xp and 7 working just fine updates permanently disabled :)


    https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/11532543

    UserBenchmarks: Game 43%, Desk 61%, Work 40%
    CPU: Intel Core i5-7300HQ - 63.5%
    GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti (Mobile) - 41.9%
    SSD: WDC WDS200T2B0B-00YS70 2TB - 71.4%
    HDD: WD WD10SPZX-00HKTT0 1TB - 93.7%
    RAM: Kingston HyperX DDR4 2666 C15 2x16GB - 76.8%
    MBD: Acer Predator G3-572

    I'm not an Acer employee. (just here to help in the best way i can)
    If my answer fixed you issue please accept it for any other users who search for it would find it quickly thanks :)
    If you want to learn more about undervolting/optimizing windows join the Predator fb group and youtube channel:

    Owner/Admin (HOTEL HERO/Red-Sand/Opoka Opoka)
    https://www.facebook.com/groups/PredatorHelios300
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNJwGUHxSJ8FKqAhnOqQuAw
    Acer support:
    https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/service-contact
    http://www.acer.com/worldwide/support/