Predator Orion 9000 CPU Upgrade

LazyDogg

I recently purchased an Orion 9000 (P09-600) with an i9 9900K CPU which I'm contemplating upgrading with the i9 9900KS. Do I need to do a bios update? Any general advice appreciated. 

billsey

The biggest issue will be heat dissipation, you are jumping over 30W TDP so a new cooler is going to be needed. As stated above, I don't think you will get a load of performance improvement, but you do get some, especially if overclocking and using a bunch of cores at once. What do you have in the rest of the system? Memory, storage, etc.? If you have a HDD and Optane combo you will see a bigger improvement by replacing the Optane with an NVMe x4 SSD as your system disk and repurposing the HDD as data storage.

GotBanned

In short: I don't know. Sorry.

General advice: I know this is what you don't want to hear, but I'd use the money for something else. Maybe get a new GPU depending what you have now What you are planning to do is a sideways upgrade with hardly any performance uplift in most tasks. If you want more computing power, I'd look into getting a new motherboard and CPU to go with it.

LazyDogg

Cheers dude, I checked the benchmark scores and thought there was quite a bit of improvement. Scored the KS in an Ebay auction for $400 bucks so not a biggy. I've got an Nvidia 11GB graphics card. 

GotBanned

Hi there!


If you think that the performance gain is worth it, then who am I to say otherwise? At least you will get some money back when you sell your current cpu.

billsey

The biggest issue will be heat dissipation, you are jumping over 30W TDP so a new cooler is going to be needed. As stated above, I don't think you will get a load of performance improvement, but you do get some, especially if overclocking and using a bunch of cores at once. What do you have in the rest of the system? Memory, storage, etc.? If you have a HDD and Optane combo you will see a bigger improvement by replacing the Optane with an NVMe x4 SSD as your system disk and repurposing the HDD as data storage.

LazyDogg

The operating system is on PCIe 500GB SSD, 2TB SATA SSD (through ODD x16 2.5GB/s) and 2TB traditonal HDD. It's also running 32GB Hyper X 3600Mhz RAM

LazyDogg

Thanks for the heads up on the TDP - didn't think it would jump that much. I'll keep tabs on temps and see how I go.

LazyDogg

I put the 9900KS CPU in and it worked like a dream. Temps all good thus far even with several hours of 2042.

StevenGen

LazyDogg said:

The operating system is on PCIe 500GB SSD, 2TB SATA SSD (through ODD x16 2.5GB/s) and 2TB traditonal HDD. It's also running 32GB Hyper X 3600Mhz RAM

Your boot drive is ok and leave the spinner HDD 2TB for storage also, with the RAM what is the Hyper X 3600 MHz latencies? As basically you are feeding your CPU data through volatile memory, aka RAM. So in this case, the shorter the latency, the higher the performance. The number of cycles a memory takes to find data and send it to CPU at blazing fast speeds is latency that makes a difference. The i9-9900KS CPU won't give you much of a performance upgrade per say as its pretty much the same specs as your i9-9900K and will only give you a 0.4 GHz up on the OEM which is not much but the i9-9900KS needs 127W TDP to the i9-99000K 65W TDP which is double, make sure that your cooling is upgraded and really I wouldn’t put anything less than a water-cooling system on this CPU as it also overheats at high levels. 

Btw and just as an example, I’ve just built a Ryzen 9 5950X system with the ASUS ROG X570 Crosshair VIII mobo and the Alphacool 11446 Eisbaer LT360 and an RTX 3070Ti GPU and Trident Z Royal DDR4-3600MHz CL16-22-22-42 1.45V 64GB (2x32GB) and the CL16 makes an unbelievable and lightening fast difference especially to the Ryzen systems.