Nitro N50-620 RAM upgrade

Helgur
Helgur Member Posts: 10

Tinkerer

I just bought more RAM for my Nitro N50-620, it currently have the original 2x8GB Kingston DDR4-3200
I bought Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200Mhz 2x8GB

When I have installed them the computer starts but none of peripherals seems to be getting any signal.
Monitor, keyboard and mouse doesnt show anything (keyboard flashes quickly when computer is turned on but doesnt stay lit).
What am I doing wrong? thought they would work as its they are both DDR4-3200



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  • batmalin
    batmalin Member Posts: 4,231 Guru
    It doesn`t support XMP profile, so return the Corsair and get the same one like the Kingston(same speed, timings and size). This is a classical RAM mismatch.
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  • Helgur
    Helgur Member Posts: 10

    Tinkerer

    Called the store to get some other RAM that would work and they told me Kingston Fury Renegade DDR4 (KF432C16RBK2/16) would work.
    But it doesnt, same issue

    This is what CPU-Z gives me on the current memory:
    Memory SPD
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    DIMM # 1
    SMBus address 0x51
    Memory type DDR4
    Module format UDIMM
    Module Manufacturer(ID) Kingston (7F98000000000000000000000000)
    SDRAM Manufacturer (ID) Micron Technology (2C00000000000000000000000000)
    Size 8192 MBytes
    Max bandwidth DDR4-3200 (1600 MHz)
    Part number ACR32D4U2S1ME-8     
    Serial number 72BA40C6
    Manufacturing date Week 17/Year 21
    Nominal Voltage 1.20 Volts
    EPP no
    XMP no
    AMP no
    JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
    JEDEC #1 10.0-10-10-24-34 @ 727 MHz
    JEDEC #2 11.0-11-11-26-37 @ 800 MHz
    JEDEC #3 12.0-12-12-28-40 @ 872 MHz
    JEDEC #4 13.0-14-14-31-44 @ 945 MHz
    JEDEC #5 14.0-14-14-33-47 @ 1018 MHz
    JEDEC #6 15.0-15-15-35-50 @ 1090 MHz
    JEDEC #7 16.0-16-16-38-54 @ 1163 MHz
    JEDEC #8 17.0-17-17-40-57 @ 1236 MHz
    JEDEC #9 18.0-18-18-42-60 @ 1309 MHz
    JEDEC #10 19.0-19-19-45-64 @ 1381 MHz
    JEDEC #11 20.0-20-20-47-67 @ 1454 MHz
    JEDEC #12 21.0-21-21-49-70 @ 1527 MHz
    JEDEC #13 22.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
    JEDEC #14 24.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz

    DIMM # 2
    SMBus address 0x53
    Memory type DDR4
    Module format UDIMM
    Module Manufacturer(ID) Kingston (7F98000000000000000000000000)
    SDRAM Manufacturer (ID) Micron Technology (2C00000000000000000000000000)
    Size 8192 MBytes
    Max bandwidth DDR4-3200 (1600 MHz)
    Part number ACR32D4U2S1ME-8     
    Serial number E57A4159
    Manufacturing date Week 17/Year 21
    Nominal Voltage 1.20 Volts
    EPP no
    XMP no
    AMP no
    JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
    JEDEC #1 10.0-10-10-24-34 @ 727 MHz
    JEDEC #2 11.0-11-11-26-37 @ 800 MHz
    JEDEC #3 12.0-12-12-28-40 @ 872 MHz
    JEDEC #4 13.0-14-14-31-44 @ 945 MHz
    JEDEC #5 14.0-14-14-33-47 @ 1018 MHz
    JEDEC #6 15.0-15-15-35-50 @ 1090 MHz
    JEDEC #7 16.0-16-16-38-54 @ 1163 MHz
    JEDEC #8 17.0-17-17-40-57 @ 1236 MHz
    JEDEC #9 18.0-18-18-42-60 @ 1309 MHz
    JEDEC #10 19.0-19-19-45-64 @ 1381 MHz
    JEDEC #11 20.0-20-20-47-67 @ 1454 MHz
    JEDEC #12 21.0-21-21-49-70 @ 1527 MHz
    JEDEC #13 22.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
    JEDEC #14 24.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz




    Could you point me in the direction what RAM would work with it?
  • Helgur
    Helgur Member Posts: 10

    Tinkerer

    I guess its because the CAS Latency is 22? Thats really bad right?
    Managed to find one RAM that has the same, CT2K8G4DFS832A
    Or maybe I should just go for completly new RAM and discard the old?
  • batmalin
    batmalin Member Posts: 4,231 Guru
    No, just find RAM with same CL, Timings, speed and size.
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  • Helgur
    Helgur Member Posts: 10

    Tinkerer

    Ok, this is driving me crazy
    Got CT2K8G4DFS832A and get the exact same issue although to me they look the same?
  • batmalin
    batmalin Member Posts: 4,231 Guru
    Put the kingson in slot 1 and 3 an the crucial one in 2 and 4 and try again.
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  • Helgur
    Helgur Member Posts: 10

    Tinkerer

    edited September 2021
    Same issue
    I took out the Kingston and put the Crucial in slot 2 and 4
    This is what im getting from CPU-Z
    Looks the same to me, ecxcept that it has one more JEDEC on 1600Mhz, whatever that means?


    Memory SPD
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    DIMM # 1
    SMBus address 0x51
    Memory type DDR4
    Module format UDIMM
    Module Manufacturer(ID) Crucial Technology (7F7F7F7F7F9B0000000000000000)
    SDRAM Manufacturer (ID) Micron Technology (2C00000000000000000000000000)
    Size 8192 MBytes
    Max bandwidth DDR4-3200 (1600 MHz)
    Part number CT8G4DFS832A.C8FN
    Serial number E537C97F
    Manufacturing date Week 17/Year 21
    Nominal Voltage 1.20 Volts
    EPP no
    XMP no
    AMP no
    JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
    JEDEC #1 10.0-10-10-24-34 @ 727 MHz
    JEDEC #2 11.0-11-11-26-37 @ 800 MHz
    JEDEC #3 12.0-12-12-28-40 @ 872 MHz
    JEDEC #4 13.0-14-14-31-44 @ 945 MHz
    JEDEC #5 14.0-14-14-33-47 @ 1018 MHz
    JEDEC #6 15.0-15-15-35-50 @ 1090 MHz
    JEDEC #7 16.0-16-16-38-54 @ 1163 MHz
    JEDEC #8 17.0-17-17-40-57 @ 1236 MHz
    JEDEC #9 18.0-18-18-42-60 @ 1309 MHz
    JEDEC #10 19.0-19-19-45-64 @ 1381 MHz
    JEDEC #11 20.0-20-20-47-67 @ 1454 MHz
    JEDEC #12 21.0-21-21-49-70 @ 1527 MHz
    JEDEC #13 22.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
    JEDEC #14 23.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
    JEDEC #15 24.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz

    DIMM # 2
    SMBus address 0x53
    Memory type DDR4
    Module format UDIMM
    Module Manufacturer(ID) Crucial Technology (7F7F7F7F7F9B0000000000000000)
    SDRAM Manufacturer (ID) Micron Technology (2C00000000000000000000000000)
    Size 8192 MBytes
    Max bandwidth DDR4-3200 (1600 MHz)
    Part number CT8G4DFS832A.C8FN
    Serial number E537C589
    Manufacturing date Week 17/Year 21
    Nominal Voltage 1.20 Volts
    EPP no
    XMP no
    AMP no
    JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
    JEDEC #1 10.0-10-10-24-34 @ 727 MHz
    JEDEC #2 11.0-11-11-26-37 @ 800 MHz
    JEDEC #3 12.0-12-12-28-40 @ 872 MHz
    JEDEC #4 13.0-14-14-31-44 @ 945 MHz
    JEDEC #5 14.0-14-14-33-47 @ 1018 MHz
    JEDEC #6 15.0-15-15-35-50 @ 1090 MHz
    JEDEC #7 16.0-16-16-38-54 @ 1163 MHz
    JEDEC #8 17.0-17-17-40-57 @ 1236 MHz
    JEDEC #9 18.0-18-18-42-60 @ 1309 MHz
    JEDEC #10 19.0-19-19-45-64 @ 1381 MHz
    JEDEC #11 20.0-20-20-47-67 @ 1454 MHz
    JEDEC #12 21.0-21-21-49-70 @ 1527 MHz
    JEDEC #13 22.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
    JEDEC #14 23.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
    JEDEC #15 24.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
  • batmalin
    batmalin Member Posts: 4,231 Guru
    Hum, I see no reason why it shouldn`t work, try with one kingston and one crucial
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  • Helgur
    Helgur Member Posts: 10

    Tinkerer

    batmalin said:
    Hum, I see no reason why it shouldn`t work, try with one kingston and one crucial
    So, I tried with one crucial and one kingston.
    It works. (slot 2 and 4)
    Then I tried them in slot 2 and 3 and it still works.

    Then I tried all 4 again, same issue. monitor, mouse and keyboard doensnt get signal.
    Then I tried with 3 RAMs, and then it bluescreens every time I boot it up, although giving different error messages
  • batmalin
    batmalin Member Posts: 4,231 Guru
    Hum, this is very strange, reset to BIOS defaults and update it to the latest. Other than that I don`t have more clues.
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  • batmalin
    batmalin Member Posts: 4,231 Guru
    Answer ✓
    You can try slot 1 and 2 kingston and 3 and 4 crucial...
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  • Helgur
    Helgur Member Posts: 10

    Tinkerer

    batmalin said:
    You can try slot 1 and 2 kingston and 3 and 4 crucial...
    That actually did the trick!
    Weird but thanks! :)

    BIOS
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    UEFI Yes

    Chipset
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Northbridge Intel Rocket Lake rev. 01
    Southbridge Intel B560 rev. 11
    Bus Specification PCI-Express 4.0 (16.0 GT/s)
    Graphic Interface PCI-Express 4.0
    PCI-E Link Width x16 (max 16x)
    PCI-E Link Speed 2.5 GT/s (max 16.0 GT/s)
    Memory Type DDR4
    Memory Size 32 GBytes
    Channels Dual
    Memory Frequency 1596.2 MHz (1:12)
    CAS# latency (CL) 22.0
    RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 22
    RAS# Precharge (tRP) 22
    Cycle Time (tRAS) 52
    Row Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) 560
    Command Rate (CR) 1T
    Uncore Frequency 3592.1 MHz
    Memory Controller Frequency 798.3 MHz
    Host Bridge 0x4C53


    Memory SPD
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------

    DIMM # 1
    SMBus address 0x50
    Memory type DDR4
    Module format UDIMM
    Module Manufacturer(ID) Crucial Technology (7F7F7F7F7F9B0000000000000000)
    SDRAM Manufacturer (ID) Micron Technology (2C00000000000000000000000000)
    Size 8192 MBytes
    Max bandwidth DDR4-3200 (1600 MHz)
    Part number CT8G4DFS832A.C8FN
    Serial number E537C589
    Manufacturing date Week 17/Year 21
    Nominal Voltage 1.20 Volts
    EPP no
    XMP no
    AMP no
    JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
    JEDEC #1 10.0-10-10-24-34 @ 727 MHz
    JEDEC #2 11.0-11-11-26-37 @ 800 MHz
    JEDEC #3 12.0-12-12-28-40 @ 872 MHz
    JEDEC #4 13.0-14-14-31-44 @ 945 MHz
    JEDEC #5 14.0-14-14-33-47 @ 1018 MHz
    JEDEC #6 15.0-15-15-35-50 @ 1090 MHz
    JEDEC #7 16.0-16-16-38-54 @ 1163 MHz
    JEDEC #8 17.0-17-17-40-57 @ 1236 MHz
    JEDEC #9 18.0-18-18-42-60 @ 1309 MHz
    JEDEC #10 19.0-19-19-45-64 @ 1381 MHz
    JEDEC #11 20.0-20-20-47-67 @ 1454 MHz
    JEDEC #12 21.0-21-21-49-70 @ 1527 MHz
    JEDEC #13 22.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
    JEDEC #14 23.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
    JEDEC #15 24.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz

    DIMM # 2
    SMBus address 0x51
    Memory type DDR4
    Module format UDIMM
    Module Manufacturer(ID) Crucial Technology (7F7F7F7F7F9B0000000000000000)
    SDRAM Manufacturer (ID) Micron Technology (2C00000000000000000000000000)
    Size 8192 MBytes
    Max bandwidth DDR4-3200 (1600 MHz)
    Part number CT8G4DFS832A.C8FN
    Serial number E537C97F
    Manufacturing date Week 17/Year 21
    Nominal Voltage 1.20 Volts
    EPP no
    XMP no
    AMP no
    JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
    JEDEC #1 10.0-10-10-24-34 @ 727 MHz
    JEDEC #2 11.0-11-11-26-37 @ 800 MHz
    JEDEC #3 12.0-12-12-28-40 @ 872 MHz
    JEDEC #4 13.0-14-14-31-44 @ 945 MHz
    JEDEC #5 14.0-14-14-33-47 @ 1018 MHz
    JEDEC #6 15.0-15-15-35-50 @ 1090 MHz
    JEDEC #7 16.0-16-16-38-54 @ 1163 MHz
    JEDEC #8 17.0-17-17-40-57 @ 1236 MHz
    JEDEC #9 18.0-18-18-42-60 @ 1309 MHz
    JEDEC #10 19.0-19-19-45-64 @ 1381 MHz
    JEDEC #11 20.0-20-20-47-67 @ 1454 MHz
    JEDEC #12 21.0-21-21-49-70 @ 1527 MHz
    JEDEC #13 22.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
    JEDEC #14 23.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
    JEDEC #15 24.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz

    DIMM # 3
    SMBus address 0x52
    Memory type DDR4
    Module format UDIMM
    Module Manufacturer(ID) Kingston (7F98000000000000000000000000)
    SDRAM Manufacturer (ID) Micron Technology (2C00000000000000000000000000)
    Size 8192 MBytes
    Max bandwidth DDR4-3200 (1600 MHz)
    Part number ACR32D4U2S1ME-8     
    Serial number 72BA40C6
    Manufacturing date Week 17/Year 21
    Nominal Voltage 1.20 Volts
    EPP no
    XMP no
    AMP no
    JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
    JEDEC #1 10.0-10-10-24-34 @ 727 MHz
    JEDEC #2 11.0-11-11-26-37 @ 800 MHz
    JEDEC #3 12.0-12-12-28-40 @ 872 MHz
    JEDEC #4 13.0-14-14-31-44 @ 945 MHz
    JEDEC #5 14.0-14-14-33-47 @ 1018 MHz
    JEDEC #6 15.0-15-15-35-50 @ 1090 MHz
    JEDEC #7 16.0-16-16-38-54 @ 1163 MHz
    JEDEC #8 17.0-17-17-40-57 @ 1236 MHz
    JEDEC #9 18.0-18-18-42-60 @ 1309 MHz
    JEDEC #10 19.0-19-19-45-64 @ 1381 MHz
    JEDEC #11 20.0-20-20-47-67 @ 1454 MHz
    JEDEC #12 21.0-21-21-49-70 @ 1527 MHz
    JEDEC #13 22.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
    JEDEC #14 24.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz

    DIMM # 4
    SMBus address 0x53
    Memory type DDR4
    Module format UDIMM
    Module Manufacturer(ID) Kingston (7F98000000000000000000000000)
    SDRAM Manufacturer (ID) Micron Technology (2C00000000000000000000000000)
    Size 8192 MBytes
    Max bandwidth DDR4-3200 (1600 MHz)
    Part number ACR32D4U2S1ME-8     
    Serial number E57A4159
    Manufacturing date Week 17/Year 21
    Nominal Voltage 1.20 Volts
    EPP no
    XMP no
    AMP no
    JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
    JEDEC #1 10.0-10-10-24-34 @ 727 MHz
    JEDEC #2 11.0-11-11-26-37 @ 800 MHz
    JEDEC #3 12.0-12-12-28-40 @ 872 MHz
    JEDEC #4 13.0-14-14-31-44 @ 945 MHz
    JEDEC #5 14.0-14-14-33-47 @ 1018 MHz
    JEDEC #6 15.0-15-15-35-50 @ 1090 MHz
    JEDEC #7 16.0-16-16-38-54 @ 1163 MHz
    JEDEC #8 17.0-17-17-40-57 @ 1236 MHz
    JEDEC #9 18.0-18-18-42-60 @ 1309 MHz
    JEDEC #10 19.0-19-19-45-64 @ 1381 MHz
    JEDEC #11 20.0-20-20-47-67 @ 1454 MHz
    JEDEC #12 21.0-21-21-49-70 @ 1527 MHz
    JEDEC #13 22.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
    JEDEC #14 24.0-22-22-52-74 @ 1600 MHz
  • batmalin
    batmalin Member Posts: 4,231 Guru
    Well on normal MBs the slots for dual channel are always 1&3 + 2&4, but seems Acer made it 1&2 + 3&4. Nevermind, the good thing is that the issue is solved.
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