Acer Predator G9-793-71SJ SSD Upgrade

Twingo86Twingo86 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard
edited June 10 in Predator Laptops
Hi all,

I have a question, i have upgraded the stock second hard drive for a Samsung 860 QVO 2TB. Now i am thinking to upgrade my nvme card as well. I am thinking to add 2 Samsung 980 PCIe 3.0 NVMe™ M.2 SSD sticks.

My questions now are:.
1. Can my laptop use these sticks ? (i think the anser is yes, just to make sure) -> https://www.samsung.com/nl/memory-storage/nvme-ssd/980-1tb-nvme-pcie-gen-3-mz-v8v1t0bw/
2. If i am not wrong 1 port is nvme and the second one uses sata 3 ? it will work but with half speed ?
4. I noticed my board has CON5101, i have read in 1 other topic that this would indicate what socket is supported. But it didnt list mine (https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/494509/predator-g9-793-ssd-question). Which one do i have ????
  • CON5102: SSD M.2 2280 SATA 3.0 and PCIe X4 NVMe (both supported)
  • CON5103: SSD M.2 2280 SATA 3.0


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  • egydiocoelhoegydiocoelho ACE Posts: 78,073 Trailblazer
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    1, 2 and 4) Yes, accept gen3x4 ssds:

    One accepts only nvme and the other only sata 3.
    3) If it's the same size, I think it will be compatible:

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  • Twingo86Twingo86 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard
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    Is said in post 1 i am thinking to buy 2 samsung 980 1 tb nvme cards to install them in my laptop. Those cards are gen 3

    You said it would work on the second port but with sata 3 speed. The nvme port worked fine with the samsung card but the sata port with nvme killed the second card, yes the chip burned and smelled bad. I inmediatly turned off the laptop to check. The card was very very hot. So i trashed it and bought a sata card (the m and b key) and luckely it works

    So now i have Samsung 980 1tb nvme installed and a WD Blue 1tb sata

    I should have known the nvme card wouldnt work because i had to place it upside down...also it had problems to attach.

    I am happy the ports didnt burn,

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  • egydiocoelhoegydiocoelho ACE Posts: 78,073 Trailblazer
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    1, 2 and 4) Yes, accept gen3x4 ssds:

    One accepts only nvme and the other only sata 3.
    3) If it's the same size, I think it will be compatible:

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  • Twingo86Twingo86 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard
    Thanks for your reply, good to know! Waiting for the adapter now and i will post a picture of it when it is applied in the laptop.
  • egydiocoelhoegydiocoelho ACE Posts: 78,073 Trailblazer
    ok my friend.
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  • Twingo86Twingo86 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard
    2 Days ago i swapped the main NVME drive because i sold the toshiba for €49,70 (that's a nice price lol). I am very surprised by it's speed.



    Still waiting for the adapter from aliexpress to install the second one.
  • egydiocoelhoegydiocoelho ACE Posts: 78,073 Trailblazer
    The ssd samsung 980 evo is fourth generation gen4x4. but its speed is being limited by the pcie gen3x4 port of the laptop.
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  • Twingo86Twingo86 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard

    I added the second stick to the second port which is SATA 3. I used the same NVME card and guess what ... my ssd got fried/burned a chip. The card is dead. NVME is possible to add to the second port right ?
  • Twingo86Twingo86 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard
    As you said it could
  • Twingo86Twingo86 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard
    edited July 2
    Yeah thought so, you gaved wrong advise and now when my ssd got burned out you dont even reply.

    Thanks for wasting €149,00 😡
  • egydiocoelhoegydiocoelho ACE Posts: 78,073 Trailblazer
    No, I said there is a sata 3 port and another nvme, see:
    1, 2 and 4) Yes, accept gen3x4 ssds:

    One accepts only nvme and the other only sata 3.
    3) If it's the same size, I think it will be compatible:

    Are you sure the ssd burned? Also, as I said before, your notebook has a gen3x4 and not a gen4x4 pci port.
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  • Twingo86Twingo86 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard
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    Is said in post 1 i am thinking to buy 2 samsung 980 1 tb nvme cards to install them in my laptop. Those cards are gen 3

    You said it would work on the second port but with sata 3 speed. The nvme port worked fine with the samsung card but the sata port with nvme killed the second card, yes the chip burned and smelled bad. I inmediatly turned off the laptop to check. The card was very very hot. So i trashed it and bought a sata card (the m and b key) and luckely it works

    So now i have Samsung 980 1tb nvme installed and a WD Blue 1tb sata

    I should have known the nvme card wouldnt work because i had to place it upside down...also it had problems to attach.

    I am happy the ports didnt burn,
  • egydiocoelhoegydiocoelho ACE Posts: 78,073 Trailblazer
    I did not say that. What I stated is that STORAGE 1 only accepts NVME and STORAGE 2 only accepts SATA 3, see:
    1, 2 and 4) Yes, accept gen3x4 ssds:

    One accepts only nvme and the other only sata 3.

    Have you installed this adapter on the sata 3 or pcie nvme port?

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  • egydiocoelhoegydiocoelho ACE Posts: 78,073 Trailblazer
    Note that con5102 port accepts sata 3 and nvme. Port 5103 only accepts sata 3.

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  • Twingo86Twingo86 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard
    Does not matter anymore, i guess we both misunderstood eachother. My question was in point 2 if the nvme card would fit in the second slot and work with sata speed.

    "2. If i am not wrong 1 port is nvme and the second one uses sata 3 ? it will work but with half speed ?"

    I now learned it's not possible and will kill the card (burned to death LOL) ... anyway have a nice day.

  • egydiocoelhoegydiocoelho ACE Posts: 78,073 Trailblazer
    Everything is fine. No problem ;) 
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  • egydiocoelhoegydiocoelho ACE Posts: 78,073 Trailblazer
    Just one question: Did you buy this adapter?

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  • Twingo86Twingo86 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard
    edited July 6
    Just one question: Did you buy th

    s adapter?

    I did and cut it into pieces, that one is not good for the sata 3. So now a piece is keeping the sata 3 card in place temporarly

    I ordered a new one and will apply it later



    Also my mobo only has con5101, see picture in post 1 😃

  • Twingo86Twingo86 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard
    Well the self made brick works perfectly


  • egydiocoelhoegydiocoelho ACE Posts: 78,073 Trailblazer
    I was still intrigued by the ssd burning, even though it connected to a sata port. What is the voltage of the ssd 980 pro? It should be somewhere around 3.3v.
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  • Twingo86Twingo86 Member Posts: 32 Die Hard
    I was still intrigued by the ssd burning, even though it connected to a sata port. What is the voltage of the ssd 980 pro? It should be somewhere around 3.3v.

    Where did you see me write that i have the pro one ? Thats also states in post 1 that i just have a 980 nvme

    And if you place the second nvme upside down the pins dont match...which result in wrong voltage. You cant place a m2 upside down like i did. That caused a chip to melt/burn and the whole card was very very hot. I just was in time to turn of the laptop ... I dont want to know what would happen if i didnt notice it.
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