Replacement SSD and Clone extisting drive - Swift SF315-41

wood1e

Hi 

I have cloned by SSD to USB SSD.  I then removed the existing SSD, and replaced it with the new SSD with the cloned information.

Put the casing back on and booted the laptop. I got the message 'No Bootable Drive Available'  So

1) Although the new SSD fitted, it has slightly different connectors see here: https://www.screencast.com/t/7M3p6gc4Sm

Could this be the issue?

2) If the connectors are not the issue, then could it be that the clone didn't work? 

Using Macrium Reflect, I cloned my harddrive, see here: https://www.screencast.com/t/sYG4yoeBc 

And it completed, so I thought I just need to insert the new SSD and job done!! 

is it possible that I have missed something?

3) I have taken the new SSD out and I did try to boot from external SSD but I just couldn't figure out.  There doesn't seem to be a 'boot from Drive E' -  I seem to the remember that was all that was needed years ago, maybe I am wrong, maybe things have moved forward and there is a process I need to undertake to allow boot from Drive E?

Anyway, just wondering what i might have done wrong  

brummyfan2

Hi,
Could you please post the full model name of your laptop, like SF3xx-xx, there  may be incompatibility of this ADATA XPG drive or you can only use a M.2 SATA SSD in your model, some of our members had problems with ADATA XPG M.2 SSDs due to the heatsink attached.

wood1e

Swift SF315-41

Serial Number: NXGV7EK008XXXXXXXXXXXX

SNID: XXXXXXXXXXXX

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billsey

Which processor does your model have? Some support NVMe 2 lane and some 4 lane. All support M.2 SATA drives. I believe your ADATA is NVMe 4 lane.

StevenGen

Your OEM M.2 storage form factor is a "B & M key" edge connector and you have installed an "M key" edge connector type M.2? Why? You can't mix these two different M.2 key connectors up! That is why you are having problems. Get the correct "B & M key" edge connector type M.2 and then do the same again and then you wont have any problems, simple  

 

wood1e

billsey said:

Which processor does your model have? Some support NVMe 2 lane and some 4 lane. All support M.2 SATA drives. I believe your ADATA is NVMe 4 lane.

My processor is AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with Radeon Vega Mobile Gfx     2.00 GHz

wood1e

StevenGen said:

Your OEM M.2 storage form factor is a "B & M key" edge connector and you have installed an "M key" edge connector type M.2? Why? You can't mix these two different M.2 key connectors up! That is why you are having problems. Get the correct "B & M key" edge connector type M.2 and then do the same again and then you wont have any problems, simple  

 

Ok thanks.... another surprise.. Along with 'terribly sorry sir your RAM is solded!!'  Next laptop purchase another question to ask... Should have asked when I bought this

billsey

I'm afraid Steven is wrong here... The B & M connectors can handle B, M or both B & M. Spec says:

Solid State drive:

• M.2 2280 128 / 256 / 512 GB , SATA SSD (SATA 3.0)(Support AMD Ryzen™R3 2200U /2300U , AMD Ryzen™R5 2500U , AMD Ryzen™R7 2700U ).
• M.2 2280 256 / 512 GB NVMe SSD, PCIE (AMD Ryzen™R3 2200U /2300U only support PCIE SSD 2 lane(x2),Ryzen™R5 and Ryzen™R7 support up to PCIE SSD 4 lane(x4)).

So you should be good with the four lane drives. Boot up with the original drive and the new drive in the external case. Fire up Disk Management and show us a picture with the partitions on both drives displayed.

brummyfan2

I suspect the ADATA XPG incompatibility with your model due to it's thickness.

wood1e

billsey said:

I'm afraid Steven is wrong here... The B & M connectors can handle B, M or both B & M. Spec says:

Solid State drive:

• M.2 2280 128 / 256 / 512 GB , SATA SSD (SATA 3.0)(Support AMD Ryzen™R3 2200U /2300U , AMD Ryzen™R5 2500U , AMD Ryzen™R7 2700U ).
• M.2 2280 256 / 512 GB NVMe SSD, PCIE (AMD Ryzen™R3 2200U /2300U only support PCIE SSD 2 lane(x2),Ryzen™R5 and Ryzen™R7 support up to PCIE SSD 4 lane(x4)).

So you should be good with the four lane drives. Boot up with the original drive and the new drive in the external case. Fire up Disk Management and show us a picture with the partitions on both drives displayed.

Ok so 

At the moment the only SSD installed is the original SSD.

I wiped the external drive when it didn't work.  just in case the cloning from 'internal SSD to external SSD didn't work and hence the reason the replacement SSD didn't work

All I really want to find out is if my 'ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB M.2 Gaming Solid State Drive (SSD), black' will work as an internal SSD replacement of the current SSD?  

If not then I know I need to buy another SSD that will be compatible, and if yes, I then know I either installed it wrongly or I completed the cloning process wrongly. 

NOTE: I don't know what 4 lanes means

wood1e

brummyfan2 said:

I suspect the ADATA XPG incompatibility with your model due to it's thickness.

It is thcker than the existing SSD.  But it did appear sit in the slot correctly.  I could be wrong.  

brummyfan2

wood1e said:

brummyfan2 said:

I suspect the ADATA XPG incompatibility with your model due to it's thickness.

It is thcker than the existing SSD.  But it did appear sit in the slot correctly.  I could be wrong.  

Some motherboards have PCIe 4lanes enabled and others have only 2 lanes enabled, I think it's done to reduce heat in compact slim laptops, there are PCIe 3x2 and PCIe3x4 M.2 SSDs available from retailers, more suitable SSD will be a M.2 NVMe SSD PCIe 3x2.
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark

wood1e

brummyfan2 said:

wood1e said:

brummyfan2 said:

I suspect the ADATA XPG incompatibility with your model due to it's thickness.

It is thcker than the existing SSD.  But it did appear sit in the slot correctly.  I could be wrong.  

Some motherboards have PCIe 4lanes enabled and others have only 2 lanes enabled, I think it's done to reduce heat in compact slim laptops, there are PCIe 3x2 and PCIe3x4 M.2 SSDs available from retailers, more suitable SSD will be a M.2 NVMe SSD PCIe 3x2.
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark

So you are saying that my ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB M.2 Gaming Solid State Drive (SSD) which is  PCIe Gen3x4 is not suitable any ideas where I can find M.2 NVMe SSD PCIe 3x2 as nowhere seems to sell anymore it is all 3x4

brummyfan2

wood1e said:

brummyfan2 said:

wood1e said:

brummyfan2 said:

I suspect the ADATA XPG incompatibility with your model due to it's thickness.

It is thcker than the existing SSD.  But it did appear sit in the slot correctly.  I could be wrong.  

Some motherboards have PCIe 4lanes enabled and others have only 2 lanes enabled, I think it's done to reduce heat in compact slim laptops, there are PCIe 3x2 and PCIe3x4 M.2 SSDs available from retailers, more suitable SSD will be a M.2 NVMe SSD PCIe 3x2.
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark

So you are saying that my ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB M.2 Gaming Solid State Drive (SSD) which is  PCIe Gen3x4 is not suitable any ideas where I can find M.2 NVMe SSD PCIe 3x2 as nowhere seems to sell anymore it is all 3x4

You have to search online to find the retailers in your region or contact Acer Support centre and they will be able to help you find a retailer in your country.
Acer Worldwide - Select your local country or region
Buy Western Digital WD SDAPNUW-256G PC SN520 SSD 256GB M.2 2280 NVMe (span.com)
GIGABYTE M.2 PCIe SSD 512GB Key Features | Solid State Drive (SSD) - GIGABYTE Global

wood1e

brummyfan2 said:

wood1e said:

brummyfan2 said:

wood1e said:

brummyfan2 said:

I suspect the ADATA XPG incompatibility with your model due to it's thickness.

It is thcker than the existing SSD.  But it did appear sit in the slot correctly.  I could be wrong.  

Some motherboards have PCIe 4lanes enabled and others have only 2 lanes enabled, I think it's done to reduce heat in compact slim laptops, there are PCIe 3x2 and PCIe3x4 M.2 SSDs available from retailers, more suitable SSD will be a M.2 NVMe SSD PCIe 3x2.
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark

So you are saying that my ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB M.2 Gaming Solid State Drive (SSD) which is  PCIe Gen3x4 is not suitable any ideas where I can find M.2 NVMe SSD PCIe 3x2 as nowhere seems to sell anymore it is all 3x4

You have to search online to find the retailers in your region or contact Acer Support centre and they will be able to help you find a retailer in your country.
Acer Worldwide - Select your local country or region
Buy Western Digital WD SDAPNUW-256G PC SN520 SSD 256GB M.2 2280 NVMe (span.com)
GIGABYTE M.2 PCIe SSD 512GB Key Features | Solid State Drive (SSD) - GIGABYTE Global

Yes that what I did, I searched ' M.2 NVMe SSD PCIe 3x2' but only 3x4 seems to appear it is almost like 3x2 is old school made of stone rubbish so no one is selling even on Ebay! 

Thanks for the help and links, I'll search now using the product names  

brummyfan2

No problem, I have found some retailers:
Western Digital PC SN520 M.2 256GB/ 512GB 2280 PCIe NVMe SSD | eBay
WESTERN DIGITAL PC SN520 NVMe M.2 2280 512GB SSD SDAPNUW-512G-1006 HP L18846-002 | eBay
Product | WD PC SN520 NVMe SSD - solid state drive - 256 GB - PCI Express 3.0 x2 (NVMe) (insight.com)
WD PC SN520 NVMe SSD SDAPNUW-256G 256GB PCI Express 3.0 x2 (NVMe) Internal Solid State Drive at Staples

wood1e

I sent a couple of shops messages to find out if they have 1TB SSDs. 

Thanks for the help

brummyfan2

You are welcome and good luck 

wood1e

Just to let you know it seems impossible to be able to buy 1TB SSD Gen 3 x 2 - So now thinking of throwing the ACER and buying something that can be expanded.

Thanks for all the help.  Lessons learnt   

brummyfan2

wood1e said:

Just to let you know it seems impossible to be able to buy 1TB SSD Gen 3 x 2 - So now thinking of throwing the ACER and buying something that can be expanded.

Thanks for all the help.  Lessons learnt   

No problem, why don't you try a Sabrent Rocket Q, it seems to work in this model.
Acer Swift SF315-41 Performance Results - UserBenchmark
Amazon.com: Sabrent Rocket Q 1TB NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 Internal SSD High Performance Solid State Drive R/W 3200/2000MB/s (SB-RKTQ-1TB): Computers & Accessories

wood1e

Unless I am mistaken that ssd is 3x4 therefore won't work?

I thought it was said I need B & M key and 3x2